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Grytolle

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Jun 30, 2007, 03:21 AM
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Due to the lack of appreciation for mockery through quoting each line, I've decided to make a completely new attempt to get what I wanted to have said said.

First of all, you seem to have completely have missed the point of this thread, which was to improve the atmosphere of the clan scene. I don't know what your reason for disliking this be, but I'm certain that no-one appreciates it.

Furthermore, starting with "it's time someone tells you the truth" doesn't really fit with vague implications (namely saying that CC wouldn't do the right thing because of being CC). You also make sweeping remarks about Polish players, which doesn't look good for someone making a big deal out of being called "jew" in a derogatory way. I'm not saying that this was right of Slayer to do - but as we all know two faults will never make a right (well, with the possible exception of an unintended double negation in a sentence, but that's very off the topic at hand).

What Chiyu did was do the right thing, despite his personal feelings about it - I suggest you try this when running the organizations you regard as your own rather than something for the entire community.

From what I've seen, there's now plenty of decent Polish players, contrary to what you state - and several of them are really nice. I'm also very curious what kind of self-written respect that it is you expect from new people. If you treat them nicely, they treat you nicely too - which leads me to suspect that perhaps you should think about how you treat new players yourself (I myself remember what impression I got of you the first time we met in a server).

I can't do anything but say that your assumption of what the kicked players will do seems rather unlikely to me, since they all love playing jj2 competitively or have gone rather inactive as of late.

If you can't see how admitting one's fault and making the right thing, hard as it may be, is a nice gesture - I really don't know how you think. I don't think you've opened any people's eyes. Everyone already knew what they thought on those matters, and all you did was show a rather disgusting inability to drop a fight.

And yes, Stey's choice of nickname was amusing indeed... unfortunately making fun of it doesn't make your post as a whole make any more sense or increase its credibility.

Lastly, of course we can't be completely sure that this would improve the clan scene, but it's definitely worth a shot. Being so negative isn't good for anything, which is exactly why I repeatedly tell people to think of JJ2WC as dormant rather than dead.

By the way, Yasco, it would be nice if you could be clearer with what you refer to in your post, since r3p brought up several matters, and "this" would refer to a single one of these. The reason for this is that I value your opinions in a way I don't do with r3p's, so it'd be nice to understand what you mean.

Thanks to you who took the time to read this far, since I realize how lengthy this post became. Long live jj2!
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