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Originally Posted by cooba
I can't help but get the mental image of Radium reading all the walls of text about him and his only reaction being "D="
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No, I'm LOL'ing pretty hard. Didn't expect what Faw posted. Can't wait to see Dev's and Dal's reaction to it, though they might not LOL.
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Originally Posted by Fawriel
If you insist on fighting it out until the end, here's the alternative: If the winner isn't clear by the end of this voting round, we'll both submit our own endings and then people vote for which one they prefer.
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The more diplomatic wording would've been "here
an alternative", given that we agreed on rules beforehand and you just want to change them because it got hard.
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Originally Posted by Fawriel
I could agree to this if I wasn't also getting bored with it all. The story is getting nowhere. From a plot perspective, my last punch already hit the climax. After this, there can only be a strong finisher and a denouement.
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There was no climax yet. Just Faw doing progressively flashier things. I think there's plenty of room to continue it.
First I want to respond to this, since it kind of sets the occasion:
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Originally Posted by Fawriel
you got every single possible thing about Fawriel wrong in your last comic. You can come up with all the fancy words in the world to describe her, but if your idea of Fawriel is nothing but "stupid manga-type guy who talks a lot", then the antithesis to that is nothing more than "not-manga type girl who doesn't talk much". [...]
Hell, I helped you with Fawriel's characterization in a PM. He's an entertainer who wants to go out into the world and be awesome. I show that in his dream-world at the start. He's been inside a capsule underground for a long time watching the world from a distance. He's basically like a kid whose knowledge of the world comes completely from reading adventure stories. He challenged Eirru in order to prove his worth, and wanted to do so in a way that shows just how awesome he is (and got really damn pissed when it just refused to work).
Yet all I see in your characterization of him is "Fawriel is an arrogant idiot who talks about himself a lot (and that is funny)".
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I tried pretty hard to give Fawriel consistent characterization based off both your PM and his portrayal in the comics. There were conflicts between what you said and how he acted, but I attributed those to just mis-use of words.
Namely, I built Faw's characterization off the premise that he is
not wise. He is powerful and probably knowledgeable, but his weakness comes in the fact that he only
thinks he's wise.
Fawriel acts powerfully and dramatically, but when it comes down to it he's basically just doing things at will. Anything he does to Eirrukovi could be done equally well to a punching bag; he simply decides what he wants to do and then does it. What's going on around him does not matter, partly why I felt justified making him wipe out the choir girls (they just happened to be standing around Eirru).
Eirru contrasts Faw in that her actions pivot entirely on his. She attacks when he's doing something else, when he's looking the other way, or after distracting him. It's not in her character to charge up some powerful attack she's been hiding; instead, she chooses her actions in the moment based on what is happening. When Fawriel blocks her punch, she hits him with her other hand. When Fawriel announces he has a bomb, she runs. When he begins going ranged, she finds cover and does not approach him until she has a clear shot. Eirrukovi listens and adapts, and that is her strength. She understands Faw better than he does. Of them, she is the wiser.
What happens if it this round of voting ties and it continues another round? Like you said, the story is getting nowhere; eventually you are going to run out of flashy attacks for Faw. But that is where the story gets interesting: what happens then? Fawriel is always pulling tricks out of his sleeve - all Fawriel's tricks come from up his sleeve. All Eirrukovi's tricks are a response to Faw's. What happens when he runs out?
You'll have an easy time continuing this comic another round, if not more - especially if you keep up this pattern of trying to portray yourself through Faw and me through Eirrukovi. Will Faw develop an ability to respond to Eirru's actions rather than simply act on his impulses? Will he develop true wisdom, as opposed to just arbitrarily declaring whenever he thinks he gets it?
That's why I want to see this tie: I think there's an amazing amount of room for Fawriel to evolve as a character.
Oh and I also think the Fawriel character in the comic could evolve too.
EDIT: "I know, for example, that he sought out the forum I'm at now and started defending his points and started linking to places that show me acting stupid." Where did I do that )=?