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FawFul

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Dec 1, 2011, 03:19 PM
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I haven't read it all and i am partly agreeing with this.

Yeah i would love to see some great competition that encourages levelmaking, I always liked competition in jj2, so why not competition in JCS.

Problem:
But i am not sure if it's good to have a ladder. It's because of judging, everyone varies with very different opinions on levels. And not everyone looks at every aspect (I mean, find a non-levelmaker that's not in a group that can actually judge eyecandy and theme and take this much into account next to gameplay: in other words, not so many and noone I can think of right away.) As much as i respect SE, the fact he actually suggested grytolle as judge is something i find quite ironic.
(Especially after calling DZ the best levelmaker in jj2, because he made 2 levels and both of them are in the mappool, i'm starting to have my doubts, and more people will.)

As much as i also respect gry, he rates nothing but gameplay. And from the little complaints I've had from JJB and MS on my work, i could easily fix or clarify with clear arguments. Mostly convinced, I wonder where those complaints come from, as i didn't see any reason or argument given. But it's fine to have doubts and ask questions, but as council? No thanks.

Just wondering, can some people even betatest properly? that is with arguments given why something works or not. Criticizing on gimmicks, narrow paths, theme and flow and so on.

Remember you need non-levelmakers to judge these levelmakergroups works, and honestly i think especially those levelmakers are the most experienced with levels and betatesting and drawing conclusions given with arguments.

And remember, there is also still personal influence towards levelmakers. Extreme example: friends rating their friends levels high on J2O. Someone who is pissing them off they rate low.