I'm gonna copy and paste whatever I said in "another forum" and change a few things in order to adress everyone.

Well, here goes: *starts off with his reply to why not upgrading because of 'non-j2o' ppl is a bad excuse*

Just how many 'non-j2o' 1.23 ppl are there? not a lot at all, actually, I wonder if there actually are any.

Apart from that, there are loads of bug fixes, and many new possibilities for level/tileset creators. I have on many occasions before reached the tileset/level size limit, and its not a nice thing.

And sure, there are a loa dof hotels and test servers, but that's not all there is, a lot of ppl there host proper servers, and the only reason there isnt as many of those are because a lot of the 1.24 players would swarm to 1.23 just to get with us. Once we have a good balance of our own decent servers there the hotel thing would dissapear extremely fast. My theory is that the only reason hotels have been that popular on 1.24 is because ppl there that want to play normal games would rather move to 1.23 instead of hosting them on their own compatible serverlist. Hotels and test levels are probarly the only things a lot of TSF players have seen, and don't know otherwise.

By sticking with 1.23, all you are doing is blocking yourself off from a part of the community, and in a community this small that is not a good thing, I say we all merge to 1.24, and get this whole split thing over and done with. So what if they still host hotels, we're nto forced to join thier hotel servers if we go on 1.24, but we can host our own just as easily. Seperating yourself from other people in a community this small is just plain stupid.