Originally Posted by Foly

Ron was actually right, the clan has existed for a whole 5 days

good game

Being assimilated by GpW has to be a pretty good way to "die" though

haha asimilated
Well we sure as hell werent very borg like today.
No sense of one single collective mind...

GG btw

Rep's clans always get eaten by an oldie clan

MT by CC..
dt! by [si]..
now BRFH by [GpW]..

yep

It didn't make you worse in any way though

Uhh looky looky who lurks in the shadows

Originally Posted by spaceboy

MT by CC..

O, forgot about that one! Probably because I wasn't around myself yet

hehe, we actually made our first point!

Skele Raul and Urbs FTW

EDIT: 2nd point baby!

well, hello there ;p

Another cameo appearance of shadow !

He's here, he's there,
that blumen shadow's everywhere,
you see him now,
behind the cow,
oh where is he hiding now?

Now you see him,
now you don't,
look out, he has you by the throat!

He strikes with fear,
at all you hold dear,
but as suddenly as that,
he is no more,
gone, in the night,
like a bat.

Good bunnies have naught to fear,
for in a second he will be gone, from whence he came,
Shadow is his name.

Wow that's a good poem urbs. Definitely must have a page for it on the GpW site.

GJ Urbs one of the best ever made in JJ2

Originally Posted by spaceboy

Active member list:
me
Urbs
Snooze
Kenny
Skele
Speeza
GoldRabbit

Got a lot bigger since then + ladder wins vs. CC, RL & NF! The new webpage is closer than ever..

The new members:
Raul
Krytical
Xere
Dermo
Kaky

And from now on, the invite only recruitment policy from the old days is back..

Originally Posted by Grytolle

O, forgot about that one! Probably because I wasn't around myself yet

Heh, I actually think the current "merge" is my best contribution ever yet out of them all.. nothing can make me feel as good as bringing a clan I like back to its past days, quickly paving our way into top 5 at the ladder and we also got a kick(-)(-)(-) player in the finals of the duel tourney.. I doubt anyone else in the community visioned that this revival would become so successful. Saying I'm proud of myself would be an understatement. Ok enough talking, I'll just do enough managing to try and keep this up..

Its a bit early to see if its successful yes or no, trust me. Some of your members don't have the best reputation ever at all and have been in all clans that currently walk around at JJ2 + several dead clans.
Ladders are like trainings, clanwars are the ones that matter

Agreed I suppose.
But we've already had 1 declined, which is fair enough I suppose, but we won't be so forgiving in our next attempts to get an opponent

Originally Posted by Vegito

Its a bit early to see if its successful yes or no, trust me. Some of your members don't have the best reputation ever at all and have been in all clans that currently walk around at JJ2 + several dead clans.
Ladders are like trainings, clanwars are the ones that matter

focus on your own clan, thanks.

Originally Posted by ShadowGPW

focus on your own clan, thanks.

What? Ask all of the active JJ2ers and they'll give the same opinion.
Even Urbs agreed. I am eager to see where some of the players will be at in 2 months.

Clanhopping can be problematic indeed Vegito, but it is funny how the very next day we merged with BRFH I got a ton of warnings from a couple of other clanleaders (some of which after losing against us have decided it wiser not to compete with us anymore), how GpW is going straight to hell.

Keynes said that in the long run we're all dead, and I say in the long run most people are clanhoppers and if they aren't clanhoppers they get inactive; so we're focusing on the now and hopefully the core of GpW will stay the same for a long time.

But then again Vegito might be right. Only time will tell. I sure hope he's wrong, but only time will tell.

Originally Posted by Vegito

Its a bit early to see if its successful yes or no, trust me. Some of your members don't have the best reputation ever at all and have been in all clans that currently walk around at JJ2 + several dead clans.
Ladders are like trainings, clanwars are the ones that matter

Well our team is led by the new generation of JJ2'ers, they play with a lot of ambition and are very eager to win, thus we made them (Kenny and Skele, who both rule, I'm sure no one got a doubt about that) the team captains @ JJ.net. Within a short time we fixed our teamplay and keep getting better at it.. I spectated them at our recent matches and they showed an impressive performance. I'm very positive about them and I think they proved themselves when they joined [GpW]. I'm sure they'll keep leading [GpW] into more victories.. but yeah, first thing we'll have to make it through the test of time.

Originally Posted by [GpW]Urbs

Clanhopping can be problematic indeed Vegito, but it is funny how the very next day we merged with BRFH I got a ton of warnings from a couple of other clanleaders (some of which after losing against us have decided it wiser not to compete with us anymore), how GpW is going straight to hell.

Haha, that clan which keeps dying and re-forming under a new name every month telling an old giant like [GpW] what's right to do?

pretty lady rep

Originally Posted by spaceboy

Haha, that clan which keeps dying and re-forming under a new name every month telling an old giant like [GpW] what's right to do?

Here we go again. Oldies versus the annoying newbies. Get over it,please. So what if our clan reforms every damn month? We just try to help,and you are really doomed if you rely heavily on clanhoppers.

^ Don't wish to be respected if you keep calling our members "clanhoppers" and act childish.

Lithuim (btw love your whole element theme going on I do miss your nod avatar though)
A lot of us aren't "clanhoppers" , a couple of members have actually admitted to me that they have in the past, however they seem to want to stick to GpW. I'm not sure what reasons they have for clan hopping, however I think we are a solid clan and very friendly with good leadership and some pro members. There's no reason to clanhop if you ask me .

I concur, it just took them some time to find the right clan for them..

I guess you can be right. Maybe they will stop clanhopping now when they are in a great clan and all...but we'll see.

(Thank you Speeza.)

Originally Posted by spaceboy

Well our team is led by the new generation of JJ2'ers, they play with a lot of ambition and are very eager to win, thus we made them (Kenny and Skele, who both rule, I'm sure no one got a doubt about that) the team captains @ JJ.net. Within a short time we fixed our teamplay and keep getting better at it.. I spectated them at our recent matches and they showed an impressive performance. I'm very positive about them and I think they proved themselves when they joined [GpW]. I'm sure they'll keep leading [GpW] into more victories.. but yeah, first thing we'll have to make it through the test of time.

That might be a correct thing to do, making them leaders of some sort. They are indeed great players which we talked about before. Well, Kenny more than Skele then still though. Of course it would be a good thing for JJ2 if GpW gets pwnage again no doubt about that. I just wonder how long those 2 will stay loyal without getting bored though. Maybe they won't be bored starting up GpW again

Ya, young players get bored quickly I suppose.

Overall, I'm happy we're back.
I don't like the fact we've already started arguing, but such is the reality of things.
I hope we get to become more than just a ladder clan, but instead, somewhat like the GpW of old and the CC of today, a group of friends as well as team mates - whereby I for one will not be organising any live events anytime soon
I also hope we can be a part of the jj2 community again, which is why I restarted the clan in the first place. I realised, at my tender age of 23, that JJ2 was an important part of my life.
I still remember with fondness the insane amount of 2v2's and 3v3's we played during that time when GpW unfortuanetly wasn't active anymore, but when the active players, no matter the clan or the faction, would play teamgames together and it was during that time that the great Vegito, Gry and Superjazz of today were born.

I love how the ladder is full of clans and how jj2 is still teeming with life after all that time. I would, however, love to see more activity from the old giants and more quality from the newcomers, because a close competition is always the most fun.
Sure, when you are competing, you don't feel that way - ideally one would wish to hold a monopoly over the best players and just "own" the scene, as it were.
But when we will be looking back at our lives, I believe it will be the competition between us and the cooperation between us (within the clan and also, more generally, a community-wide cooperation) is what we will remember the most.

I get how GpW's return, up till now quite successful, has sparked different reactions, and I am here to tell you, that we will do all we can, to mitigate all the negative impacts of our arrival (some clans have regrettably lost a good deal of members because of us, which was something I should have known would happen, but which I never planned) and try to give the community the best we have to offer. Admittedly, some fine points need sharpening, some raw diamonds need cutting, but we will, hopefully, get there.

Team play, a communal feeling without impossing any rigid restrictions (obligatory trainings etc), a live and let live clan with competitive aspirations - this is our ideal. A clan of diverse membership with diverse tallents, aspirations, histories, nationalities and goals.

On these last points I fear we have yet to deliver, as me and rep have been more active on the ladder than anywhere else (well that goes for me especially, rep was busy rebuilding the webpage), yet our preoccupation with competition is understandable, as clans are primarily groups of people who wish to compete with one another.

Anyway wish us GL HF!

Wow a great read. Urbs I could see you reading that to a national anthem
I haven't ran into any negativity with the clan yet. Although I don't seem to get told as much as I used to about clan activity :P

Urbs, you're very good. Imo one of the best active players in GpW (I am talking about clanhopping an behaviour). Don't argue with the other players, but I afraid they're alright. I am talking this for your good. Don't let everyone in your clan because big part of new players are clanhoppers. I know this is one of the oldest clans in JJ2, but don't ruin clan's reputation. I still believe this is a good clan, with great people who are leading, but with some clanhoppers. I believe in this clan, and will be strong (already is).

thanks Toni!

BTW spez, sorry about that, I've got a lot of work and the 1 on 1 msn approach is not the best way to communicate with anything above 3+ members
That's why we are working on the webpage, or rather rep is.

Originally Posted by [GpW]Urbs

thanks Toni!

BTW spez, sorry about that, I've got a lot of work and the 1 on 1 msn approach is not the best way to communicate with anything above 3+ members
That's why we are working on the webpage, or rather rep is.

Ah OK then no problem. Any idea when the webpage will be up ?

Well, it's not a technical problem, so it should be up next weekend.
That being said it could have been up last week...
Not it's definitely going up next weekend.
Nothing too posh actually, just news, members and the like.
Maybe a forum later on, although if we have a forum it won't have all that many posts - yet they can be useful I suppose.

I could convert my old forum over. Speeza knows what I'm referring to.

Urbs is insane, but love the fellow. Belongs as one of the most loyal subjects I have, even tho GpW is barely active anywhere. He actually rebooted the JJ2 part. (not that we offically left.. but.. meh what ever. )

Thanks to that, i'm willing to bring up a webpage soon and let them maintain it. I'm the founder, but Urbs is kinda leading everything there. atleast he motivates me to watch over and actually play.. Yes, i logged recently....

I actually had some custom font ideas:





I have sent them to Urbs who said that the top right one was his favorite if straightened out. Unfortunately, I'm finding myself lacking time to work on the logo and make it the way I wanted to. These are what I've come up with. They are just custom fonts, nothing more, nothing less. Either way, I figured they would suit the page.

Also I do know some ActionScript and would be able to help get the flashy version to load.

It would be as simple as:

on(release){
getURL("http://gpw.mysticlegends.org/")
}

However, if you wanted more of the site based on Flash... well I could do that too

I was doing all my work under Urbs's guidelines

I do like a lot of them dermo. Top right is best choice. I like the pacman one as well but I know it wouldn't fit well with the site.

I rather see the old Red logo in use, simpel but effective.