alright, i couldnt post a message on Project3Interactive's website, and so i sent them THIS email:

Hello!
I have read the thread on your message board titled 'what would you
like to see as our next product', and I tried posting but it wouldn't
let me create an account. So, I will send you some information here.
My website, found at
*WHOAH! you thought i'd post it here?!* has all the
information and screenshots you might need to get you started. as for
the 'silly prices' Epic is asking, I can't help you there. =)
Thank you,
Black Ninja

they sent a message back saying they've passed the info on, now we can only wait. and if this brings us jj3, you may all call me MASTER.

and if this brings us jj3, be as surprised as i will be. =p

They probably passed it on to the trash can.

I honestly don't understand that.

C'mon c'mon 'cmon...

MAKE JAZZ 3 ALREADY!!!

There, I got it out of my system.

-The March Hare

lol, Monolith

and the site really does tell EVERYTHING. even somewhat of a walkthrough. ;p

JJ3 has already been made lmbo its just sucky demo :-p

Derby: Acronym edit.

well....yeah. fine, forget that i try to help us get the sucky demo. =p

A lot of us have it. It sucks.

i know. actually....i quite enjoyed it. ;p
but the bosses are duuuuummmmmmb.

Inspiring music and levels (like the flooded castle basement). But it needs more objects and stuff ;p

yet, it's only a demo.

I enjoyed it. But then I found out it ended after the first castle and I stabb ed my arms with a knife. :P

edit: thank you Crono :P

That must've been painfull. you ment stabbed not stapped right?

[/b]pp bb qq dd[/b]

hehe.

Jazz3D has couple good battle levels, but the multiplayer code has some few bugs in it.

We've done this before.. JJ3 won, I don't think anyone voted for anything else. But Project3 hasn't done anything.

Actually, we just replied to the topic. I may still have an account there

What was their site address again?

They just put in Jazz3 into the vote option so their game choice isnt so terrible, disgusting, idiotic, stupiditiously low. Even if Jazz would get 90 % of the votes, they would still create the game with the 2nd most votes.

Originally posted by Monolith
They probably passed it on to the trash can.

I say we flood P3I's message board with tons of posts saying to make JJ3. Hey, BlackNinja, why won't you show your site?

Originally posted by JJ BBoy KS







I say we flood P3I's message board with tons of posts saying to make JJ3. Hey, BlackNinja, why won't you show your site?

Erm, I think we pretty much did: http://www.p3int.com/forum/forum.asp...e=New+Products

They were basically interested, but now the forum's been shut down. I dunno why.

But we cheated on that poll didn't we?

Anyways, if there's a demo for Unreal, we should be able to have teh jj3 demo. And just a few bugs in the multiplayer?! THE CLIENTS DON'T EVEN GET HIT POINTS!!! Althought it' is a pretty cool game considering.

The castle level ruled, as well as the basement, the netcode was faster than jj2's and allowed actual evading. The weapons were pretty cool considering again. Needless to say, I'd stay off the computer for a while (3 days or so) and download a decent demo than wait overnight 6 days for it.

I'd like to see it play on the net.

Evading shots would still be harder for me. Even though I completely avoided in my screen, I still get hurt. Unreal engine does not support lag-tolerance. Stupid server-side codes only.

Well yes, a few bugs. You already mentioned it.

And client's ammo doesn't recharge. There just something in the unreal script that needs to be adjusted.

If I could only understand unreal script good enough.

We never cheated on the P3 THREAD. It wasn't a poll, they asked "What game woould you like to see made?" and we won. We didn't cheat.

We cheated on the GodGames poll. Hehe, NewSpaz or someone found a thread on some MB for one of the other games and they said "The green bunny's WINNING!" They guessed we were cheating. THEN WE INVADED THEIR FORUM W00H00

Good Luck Black Ninja. How the heck did you all get the demo!?

Really, howd u get the demo, and whats the URL

Originally posted by CyberGunner
Really, howd u get the demo, and whats the URL

Dude, you CAN'T get the demo. It's illegal.

alright, first of all:
I can't show any of you the website. And if i did, all you'd get is a big fat 'enter username/password' screen.
second:
getting the demo is completely against the law in every way possible. dont ask.

what did you make this topic for then?

Oh man, why is that forum down? I wanted to contribute to it!

I'm telling you guys, be patient, never give up, and ANNOY THE **** OUT OF THEM! Or Epic, or whoever owns the rights to Jazz Jackrabbit games. Some people say forget it, it's pointless, Jazz has no future. Screw that!

You know, I'm also a very huge Sierra fan and Sierra went through a lot of changes since 1996. So many talented people that made their series and their success got laid off, Sierra was focusing on "new projects" rather than what they are all about. There was going to be a Space Quest 7, but it wasn't going to be too great. Now a new guy has bought the company, and he's rehiring staff and doing his homework on what made the company so great. He is determined to bring back Sierra and bring back the old series, starting with SQ7. It seems promising, and if they come back, it's because the fans never forgot about the series, and bugged Sierra a lot.

Now Sierra has many game series with many sequels and many fans for each. They sold well. Jazz hasn't been given enough of a chance. There was Jazz Jackrabbit, it sold well I think, right? And Jazz 2 didn't. But CC and TSF only came out in Europe, and they were the same engine anyway. Jazz hasn't been on GameBoy Advance, hasn't been on any consoles, hasn't been in 3D! There's so much they could do with the series, and it would make a lot of money I think.

So why do they want to be so quick to give up on it? Maybe we should annoy Project 3 Interactive or Epic, or maybe we should just email the animators of the games, and they can work for a company that would like to work on the project and would be able to make it good, and not just just another bland 3D platformer. I know just what Jazz 3 should be like. It would blend elements of Jazz 1 and 2, Fur Fighters, and some solid 3D platformers that are very popular. It would be a third-person platformer/shooter, but you could see Jazz from any angle.

If we're patient and persistant and we email the right people, the project will be in the bag. Ya know, I hope!

Sheesh. The curse word I used shouldn't trigger censoring. It's a pretty mild word, unless you're five.

Originally posted by Nadine

Now Sierra has many game series with many sequels and many fans for each. They sold well. Jazz hasn't been given enough of a chance. There was Jazz Jackrabbit, it sold well I think, right? And Jazz 2 didn't. But CC and TSF only came out in Europe, and they were the same engine anyway. Jazz hasn't been on GameBoy Advance, hasn't been on any consoles, hasn't been in 3D! There's so much they could do with the series, and it would make a lot of money I think.

Erm Jazz was GOING to be on the GBC, then they upped it to GBA, but it seems canned now. JJ3 was GOING to be on the PS2, but as you know...

So why do they want to be so quick to give up on it? Maybe we should annoy Project 3 Interactive or Epic, or maybe we should just email the animators of the games, and they can work for a company that would like to work on the project and would be able to make it good, and not just just another bland 3D platformer. I know just what Jazz 3 should be like. It would blend elements of Jazz 1 and 2, Fur Fighters, and some solid 3D platformers that are very popular. It would be a third-person platformer/shooter, but you could see Jazz from any angle.

If we're patient and persistant and we email the right people, the project will be in the bag. Ya know, I hope!

We have nagged them. They get annoyed and it just decreases the chance - Epic is different than Sierra. And as for P3, we DID ask them, they were even interested, but apparently Epic was asking for high prices to use the characters. Also, I know just what JJ3 should be like - exactly what the demo JJ3 is like - 3rd person adventure-shooter. I've played Fur Fighters, and while it's cool, I don't think it'd be the best for JJ3 - it's too limiting.

Well, I don't know what you mean by Fur Fighters being limiting, but as I haven't played the Jazz 3 demo, and as Fur Fighters is the closest game that would resemble Jazz 3 (what with cartoon animals with guns) that is why I said it should be like it. Please elaborate on how it's limiting. Certianly Jazz 3 could add more to the concept and make a better game out of it. It would be very much a 3D platformer, except Jazz would shoot the enemies (or stomp on them, or whatever like Jazz 2), and unlike Fur Fighters, the view shouldn't be limited to seeing the character's back. A full view should be allowed.

Well, whatever cause them to get annoyed and less interested we don't want to do. But what can we do then? Maybe they'll fail at their other projects, and realise Jazz is the way to go. Make a lot of money on a well-known franchise before you try something new with not enough money to risk.

It's mean. Everyone seems to ave the demo, except me! Give it to me too!

I dont have it!

I saw it, seems to be a beta, not a demo!

I think JJ3D would go PERFECT on the GBA / PS2 ( PS2 for internet support! ). It would be like Unreal Tournament with Team Battle mode...... WoW

So, their boards are back up. Whatever happened to flooding their boards with requests for Jazz Jackrabbit 3?

Oh yeah, and why are we asking them to make it? Epic made Jazz 1 and 2, but I guess they will never ever make a sequel. What about GodGames? Didn't they have something to do with it? And what's up with Project 3 Interactive? Did they change their number from 2 to 3 or something? Do you think these guys would be able to make a good Jazz sequel? I haven't heard about this company before. Where are the creators of Jazz 1 and 2? Are they still with Epic? What is Arjan, Nick and Dean up to these days? Why has Epic abandoned Jazz 2? It's not all THAT old. 1998 is kind of old, but why have they already abandoned it?

It's just not right for Epic to hold on to the rights, but not support the game's fans anymore and not create a new patch or provide the sourcecode. I know the game wasn't very successful, but Epic has to support their customers or it can give them a bad image, and if they lose our interest we may not buy some of their products. I know I don't care about Unreal 2 unless it's REALLY something. FPS are too similar as it is. Why don't they support the Jazz licence and audience or sell it to someone? Someone who will be faithful to the series AND to the fans! It's not just because I'm a fan, but I think Jazz 3 could really be profitable if they make it right and advertise it properly. It could be similiar to Fur Fighters, but even better!

Come on, let's bug Epic and Project 3, and maybe even GodGames.

Oh, I actually see that you guys sure DID flood it! Wow! Ofcourse, that was in 2001, I wonder if they remember the suggestions. You know, they can't ignore THAT big a response. Anyway, it sucks that it's locked now, because I had some ideas also that I wanted to add....

Originally posted by Nadine
Oh yeah, and why are we asking them to make it? Epic made Jazz 1 and 2, but I guess they will never ever make a sequel. What about GodGames? Didn't they have something to do with it? And what's up with Project 3 Interactive? Did they change their number from 2 to 3 or something? Do you think these guys would be able to make a good Jazz sequel? I haven't heard about this company before. Where are the creators of Jazz 1 and 2? Are they still with Epic? What is Arjan, Nick and Dean up to these days? Why has Epic abandoned Jazz 2? It's not all THAT old. 1998 is kind of old, but why have they already abandoned it?

It's just not right for Epic to hold on to the rights, but not support the game's fans anymore and not create a new patch or provide the sourcecode. I know the game wasn't very successful, but Epic has to support their customers or it can give them a bad image, and if they lose our interest we may not buy some of their products. I know I don't care about Unreal 2 unless it's REALLY something. FPS are too similar as it is. Why don't they support the Jazz licence and audience or sell it to someone? Someone who will be faithful to the series AND to the fans! It's not just because I'm a fan, but I think Jazz 3 could really be profitable if they make it right and advertise it properly. It could be similiar to Fur Fighters, but even better!

Come on, let's bug Epic and Project 3, and maybe even GodGames.

GodGames doesn't WANT to publish it cause they lost money on JJ2 Nadine. Project 3 can't do anything because EPic is being nasty with the rights. Epic has abandoned everything except Unreal because it's their big cash cow. DROP IT, we're not gonna get it. Arjan is working on stuff at LostBoys, Nick I dunno, Dean no longer has interest and doesn't like being pestered.

It IS right for Epic to not give out the sourcecode because THEY HOLD THE RIGHTS TO THE GAME ENGINE AND GAME!!! Many companies no longer provide support for old games and no longer provide updates eg: Worms Armageddon doesn't work on XP, but Team 17 hasn't provided any patch. THey don't give away the license cause they DON'T WANT TO. Most gamers like lots of violence at least the majority does, and that's what the publishers will support - Jazz will never be about violence and thus won't get support. And Unreal 2, though you may not care for it, is one of THE most anticipated titles - guaranteed to make them money. PLEASE, I'm getting tired of these threads, jsut drop the matter.

Originally posted by defalcon

GodGames doesn't WANT to publish it cause they lost money on JJ2 Nadine. Project 3 can't do anything because EPic is being nasty with the rights. Epic has abandoned everything except Unreal because it's their big cash cow. DROP IT, we're not gonna get it. Arjan is working on stuff at LostBoys, Nick I dunno, Dean no longer has interest and doesn't like being pestered.

Unreal2 had better be GOOD then. REALLY good. ANOTHER first person shooter? Even fans of the genre must be getting sick of them by now. And if that franchise/genre is all Epic has going for them, it doesn't say much about their company, because there are other companies also making FPS. It's not like they specialize in it or are much better at making them than other companies. Sierra makes them, ID makes them, and Duke Nukem Forever should blow all over FPS shooters away. People will see through the same ol, same ol games, and what will Epic have left? They'll be remembered as a company that used to be great, but no longer. So Unreal 2 better be the most amazing thing anything has ever seen, and it probably will just be cool and nothing more.

It IS right for Epic to not give out the sourcecode because THEY HOLD THE RIGHTS TO THE GAME ENGINE AND GAME!!! Many companies no longer provide support for old games and no longer provide updates eg: Worms Armageddon doesn't work on XP, but Team 17 hasn't provided any patch. THey don't give away the license cause they DON'T WANT TO.

I'm not talking about "right" being legal. I mean, it being morally RIGHT. To suck in gamers and then take the possibility of continuing the series is just plain mean. To keep the rights to yourself and not use them may be mean but also you're not making any money off it anymore. If this industry is all about money, than if someone wants to pay them a lot of money for the rights to a franchise that they don't care about anymore, than why not sell it?

Most gamers like lots of violence at least the majority does, and that's what the publishers will support - Jazz will never be about violence and thus won't get support.

Hmm, a bunny with a big gun, that's SO not violent. Okay maybe there isn't any blood or realistic weapons, but the gameplay is action based. Besides, there only being Jazz 1 and 2 (and variations of them), they are both 2D, no blood, and one was successful, one bombed. If Jazz 3 was 3D, more difficult, better advertised, made similar in someways to Fur Fighters (it was pretty violent for a cartoon game, it had a TEEN rating, enemies noticeably "died" rather than becoming small bits, and they could be decapitated and you could kick the head around) it would sell very well I think.

It's really silly to give up on a franchise that hasn't had much chance, and base it on how a game sold that was rather quickly put togther and needed a lot more work, and released as a 2D game in a time when people want 3D. If it was just about being a loyal "fangirl", I know it would be hopeless to ask for Jazz 3. But there are a lot of us really, and even people who have enjoyed Jazz before but aren't a member of these forums, PLUS I really know that if the sequel was done properly, it would be accepted by the masses and be popular. Look at how popular cute games are when done right: Spyro, Sonic, Mario, Pokemon... And it isn't all for kids, and we don't have a platform mascot for the PC except for Jazz, and they should make the franchise across more platforms as well. I think some companies focus on the wrong things when they think about what sells and what doesn't. Slap a game together quickly, don't advertise, and it doesn't matter if it's cute or violent - it won't sell.

PLEASE, I'm getting tired of these threads, jsut drop the matter.

Hmm, and yet you are so addicted to responding to them to tell me just how sick you are of them. It may be a LONG TIME from now, but if it should happen that a Jazz 3 or a new Jazz comes along, I'm going to make a signature just for you that say's "IN YOUR FACE DEFALCON!"

Until then, as long as I stay withen the right topics and don't flood other topics with posts about this matter, I will continue to make whatever topics I see fit. If a post like this comes around, you are not required by law to answer it. I don't know what your beef is with me and this matter. I have a freedom of speech, as do you. Besides, isn't it better that I ask questions or just talk to you guys about this BEFORE going to the companies? I sure don't want to make it guaranteed that we won't get more Jazz. I understand you are getting frustrated and impatient with me, as I am somewhat of a newbie here and full of positive optimism. But you don't have to agree with me, and you don't have to reply. I was just checking up on this topic, because it had somewhat of a ray of hope. Isn't that something you have to take advantage of when the opportunity arises?