Razz Arena (cel chaded jazz game in progress)

[McDougal]

Lol. I'm lookin at releaseing the stand alone soon. Bugs, missing models and all. good thing i like to lan test b4 releaseing. i did find a anoying bug which is fixed. Special ports? i really dont think there is a special port needed. With the release of the standalone it will open the community up to bein able to make maps and what not.
(note it wont be totaly compleat but will be playable) theres alota things ive been tryin to figure out but no avail. ya know what. WTH! ill post the current readme file (since i make as i go. Not every thing is included in it because its just Trivial.)

Dont look like much to the time invested. but lota trouble shooting was done and waiting on the opensource for standalone status.
(._.)b

[McDougal]

Version 1.2

heres what has been changed/added since the 1.1
Asuming that u were able to play before.

***--------------------------------------***
*** Stand ALONE!!! ***
*** Demo Restrictions removed. ***
***--------------------------------------***

Cd key code Expanded. i cant remove it but i can add all the letters of the Alphabet and numbers
this will let u make any key to use. with out spaces expamples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*123456789012345* *razzdontneedq3a* *0JazzJackrabbit0*
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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when starting the game nolonger says Quake 3 Console. now says Razz Arena Console
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new/temp pix to get away from stock game pix
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New Backgrounds
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new ingame Curser
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Font Justification changed in the Ingame User interface. now Left set.
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new icon pick up items.
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lots of shader file updating due to loss of Stock Quake 3 textures and sprites.
will take long time to compleate and restructure.
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Menu Music Care of ---->>>>> ThunderPX <<<<<<--------
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background img now displays in the back ground insted of the Black img.
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::::::|| Before Stand alone status ||:::::::
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World spawn system. started. you can now travel to different maps/servers via pickup.

were lookin at a multi server system. all players join a main server. from there they can
touch the item and automaticly taked to the game they chose. though this can be a little bugy,
aslong as the servers are up and ip addresses are solid then this will work fine.
thanks Jazz D (q3w forums) for the very basic sample.
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when player is dead bodys no longer blow up. they stay put. much of the blood effects removed.
<when u type /kill in console u still gib. for now>
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Seeker rocket homing dumbed down. i thought it was fine bein as tight. but some differed, well see.
not as tight more lose little easyer to lose lock on.


( As of 10-7-05 )

[ThunderPX]

Ah, so you used my menu music after all? :P
And about the ports; good, because JJ2 still times out even though I've opened the ports.

(Oh, and the download is broken because it's not released, right? :P)

EDIT: www.portforward.com says that Quake 3 uses port 27960.

[DoubleGJ]

Do the maps have music implemented now too?

[piet]

(Oh, and the download is broken because it's not released, right? :P)


Thats Correct, sorry about that ;)

Do the maps have music implemented now too?
it can me done like in normal quake3 maps.
but if you are talking about xm it mod files, no. but i think i saw a mod that has it. maybe McDougal can figure it out.

[MSB3000]

I could convert the xm it mod the files to mp3. Well, actually, I just record them. But it works all the same.

...:7

[piet]

mp3's are a lot bigger than mp3's so xm, mod and it files can be downloaded from the server hosting a new map.

[DoubleGJ]

but if you are talking about xm it mod files, no. but i think i saw a mod that has it. maybe McDougal can figure it out.
I meant using the ones already made by Thunder and me in the already made levels. I bet at least one of Thunder's tunes fits to each of the castle levels.

[piet]

we still dont have fully completed maps, still working on that :P

[ThunderPX]

I don't have any tunes that are fit for a castle AFAIK; but then again, Jazz3's wasn't exactly castle-sounding either. :P

[ThunderPX]

DOUBLE POST OHNOS

Here's all the music I've created for Razz Arena so far; there's a couple new tunes in there, and a few where I tweaked some bits. The only thing missing is the original Jazz theme remix I made, but it sucked. :P

Console (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/01 - Console.mp3) The menu song.
Space Level (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/02 - Space Level.mp3) Self-explanatory. Original name was "Ambient," but it's not very ambient. :P
Warfare (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/03 - Warfare.mp3) Originally going to be used for my RPG, but since that's never going to see the light of day, I figured what the hell.
Base Level (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/04 - Base Level.mp3) Also self-explanatory. Original name was "Creepy," since the whole song was going to be like the beginning when I formed it in my head.
Chrysilis RMX (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/05 - Chrysilis RMX.mp3) Yet again, self-explanatory. =P
Chaos Level (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/06 - Chaos Level.mp3) I found the Song Maker option in MAGIX.
Funkay! (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/07 - Funkay!.mp3) This one's new. I like it a lot and the bass has a nice Jazz 1-styled feel to it. Glad I found that sample when I did or I wouldnt've made this one.
Midnight Chase (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/08 - Midnight Chase.mp3) I really really hate this one because of the wind sound effect's annoyingness, but I couldn't find a better one. The idea for this one was that it would basically build a tune off the wind while Jazz chases Devan through the night.
R.H.M.T. (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/09 - R.H.M.T..mp3) Probably the oldest song of the bunch, but I touched it up a bit before putting it here.

(And no, you're not going to find out what R.H.M.T. means any time soon. :P)

[cooba]

Put all tunes in one or two zips :(.

[ThunderPX]

The point of the post was that they weren't in zips and had proper naming. I do have a zip still online but the names are bad.

[DoubleGJ]

Heh, I'd post my work here just like Thunder did but I'm out of server space... =P

[piet]

i will create a dropbox FTP for everyone who needs some space to show (-)

[McDougal]

DOUBLE POST OHNOS

Console (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/01 - Console.mp3) The menu song.


nice i did pick the right one. cause thats the one i used. lol.

i did find a bug in the last man mode but idk if it is fixed or not since Q3a bot system dont mix well but least when take out the bots it does kick u. *some reason it wasnt b4* one thing i know is gona bug me for a while is the strict player class setup.

far as release. ill take a quote from Id software.

its done when its done

but more like ready since being done is still far out there.

[ThunderPX]

Heh, I'd post my work here just like Thunder did but I'm out of server space... =P

Send it to my GMail (mailto:thunderpx@gmail.com), and I'll upload it for you.

[McDougal]

~~~ Drum roll ~~~~
Tis out now go play.

when piet gets uploaded on the site the mail list should trigger but for now..

http://rapidshare.de/files/6221049/Razz_Arena.exe.html

there ya go.

[piet]

the site links to the same URL now.

[DoubleGJ]

ZOMG YAY FRESH MEAT

[ThunderPX]

DoubleGJ's tunes in a zip. (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/RazzArenatunes.zip)

Jazz Statue Arena (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/10 - Jazz Statue Arena.mp3)
Risk It! (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/11 - Risk It!.mp3)
Dr33mp33pz (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/12 - Dr33mp33pz.mp3)
Seperate songs.

EDIT: Uploaded seperately and fixed link.

[piet]

DoubleGJ's tunes. (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/RazzArenaTunes.zip)

This is the zip file they came in. I'll upload the unzipped versions later after I've actually listened to these (I'm really busy.) I think it's pretty cool how he numbered them after my tracklist =D A few more songs of mine will be coming later.

does not work

[ThunderPX]

Fixed. Also uploaded seperate songs, but they're not finished uploading yet, so don't nag if they don't work. Here's a short beach reggae loop thing I made out of boredom (also still uploading:)

Razz-ae (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/13 - Razz-ae.mp3)

[FQuist]

DoubleGJ's tunes in a zip. (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/RazzArenatunes.zip)

Jazz Statue Arena (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/10 - Jazz Statue Arena.mp3)
Risk It! (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/11 - Risk It!.mp3)
Dr33mp33pz (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/music/Razz Arena/12 - Dr33mp33pz.mp3)
Seperate songs.

EDIT: Uploaded seperately and fixed link.

If you're seriously going to include these tunes with the game, make sure they are in tune, because these are horribly out of tune. Most of the notes clash and the melody sounds like one big mishmash because of it. No offense DoubleGJ, but they hurt the ears of people who have musical ears to whatever extent.

[ThunderPX]

I only thought the Jazz Statue Arena one was out of tune. The other ones were pretty good.

[FQuist]

All 3 are out of tune, the statue one just is more out of tune than the others.

[piet]

ok back on topic.

we have released our first stand alone version.
multiplayer works and i am hosting a 24/7 server.

just download Razz_Arena.exe and use Connector.exe to connect to my server.

you can get them here: http://www.razzarena.da.ru/index.php?page=download

we can use some feedback from JCF members.

[ThunderPX]

I'll be back to play in approximately 200 minutes. *killed*

[DoubleGJ]

I still don't understand what exactly is that "out of tune"...

[Stijn]

I put up a mirror: http://stijn.gamerzheaven.nl/hd/Razz_Arena.exe (it's currently being uploaded)

[ThunderPX]

Razz Statue Arena is just completely wrong, but Risk It! is NOT out of tune. There are loads of tunes like that in video games; it's the "omfg bomb's gonna blow up the world, now I have to run to bad guy's base in 5 minutes" tune.

[piet]

page claim in the name of STAY ON TOPIC!!! :P

[piet]

I put up a mirror: http://stijn.gamerzheaven.nl/hd/Razz_Arena.exe (it's currently being uploaded)


tnx for that mirror, i have added it to the download page :)

[ThunderPX]

Anyway, the characters seem to be somewhat balanced;

Jazz:
- Grappling hook
- Slightly faster (I think)
Spaz:
- Double jump
- Somewhat easier to control, IMO

But what kind of abilities will other characters have?

[piet]

Jazz:
- Copter Ears

Razz:
- Grappling hook

Spaz:
- Double jump
- karate kick

[ThunderPX]

Will all characters have the speed boost? And Devan should have some sort of shield that, when touched by enemies, hurts them. A dragon transformation would be kinda unfair. =P

[DoubleGJ]

Jazz:
- Copter Ears

Razz:
- Grappling hook

Spaz:
- Double jump
- karate kick
You forgot Jazz's uppercut =( IMO Razz could have some sort of martial arts skill, too...

[ThunderPX]

I always imagined Razz to be a fairly muscular rabbit, so maybe he has some sort of dash where he runs into the enemy and knocks them down. Also, Lori needs some sort of dodging skill. She's not uber-athletic for no reason :P

[piet]

lori doent even has a model yet :P

[ThunderPX]

That's not the point =P

[Black Ninja]

Wow, I don't check this thread for a while and a standalone is released. That figures.

Seeing as there's no good US mirror there, I'd be happy to put the file on Foo Products for all the American foos who want to download it.

[DoubleGJ]

I always imagined Razz to be a fairly muscular rabbit, so maybe he has some sort of dash where he runs into the enemy and knocks them down. Also, Lori needs some sort of dodging skill. She's not uber-athletic for no reason :P
I have a feeling that the "muscular" and "inventor" features clash with each other. And Lori does look fit, she even has this gym kind costume. ;)

[cooba]

Razz should be a wimp because he was in JJ3. He couldn't even deal with a lizard ;(.

[Black Ninja]

UPLOAD'D

http://www.fooproducts.com/junk/Razz_Arena.exe

[McDougal]

since we only had 2 models/charaters at the time i gave jazz the hook. i have a Sam done (simple animated model) that im gona use as a temp for others. give jazz his copter ability, and trans the hook to Razz. im tryin to work out a cleaner class system in the code so that there can be custom skins added freely with out the need of a code dump input. still tinkering when i am able. i fig the release of the mostly functional game will raise intrest for more develoment out side the code it self.

[ThunderPX]

I still think Razz should have the dash move. =p

EDIT: Maybe he could use rocket shoes to do it or something.

SON OF EDIT: Yet another mirror (http://thunderweb.zapto.org/misc/Razz_Arena.exe)

[piet]

thanks to thunder and black ninja for the mirrors.

http://www.razzarena.da.ru/?page=download

we now got 5 mirrors :)

[ThunderPX]

By the way, me and MissingPako have made some new posts at the forum, but it seems to be kinda dead at the moment. =P

[piet]

hmm i think i am going to make a new forum that sents you mails if there is a new post.

[DoubleGJ]

I sometimes check it... Didn't do it recently, tho'. Just forgot. =P

[piet]

mini update:
i have created a mini forum that will fit in the normal layout.
you can ask your mini questions here ;)

http://www.razzarena.da.ru/?page=forum

[ThunderPX]

If you make a JJA-Jazz skin, it should be called "Jazz Jack-piece-of-crap" *killed*

[TaZaR]

Hmm, I'm trying to learn 3d modelling now. Dunno how much time it will kepp, or if I'll be succesfull with it, or how good will I be, but if enough, and I'll have time, I'd like to help you guys out with some modells in the future. I can't promise it, but maybe... ;) I like this project, and how it's going.
Well if I could vote for levels, maybe my list would be the next:

Tubelectric
Diamondus
Medivo
Psychedelic
Deckstar

About L :lori: r i, what moves are you planning for her? I think she would have an air dive-kick. Something like Sonic's "homing ball" attack, but lori shouldn't spinning, but flying towards the enemy & kick him from the air. (that should be the move in the place of Lori's ear-copter) If the enemy's too far, she should miss him, to make the attack not too powerfull.

I wish you good luck for this project! ;)

[ThunderPX]

Instead of the copter-ears? No. Every character should have one move to get to places (ie Copter Ears, DoubleJump, Grappling Hook) and one damaging move, usually fighting (Superjump thing, Karate Kick)

[piet]

agree

[Birdie]

the grappling hook goes forever :(

[ThunderPX]

Alright, I just found the CD of more samples my dad gave me. More stuff coming up =D

[MSB3000]

I can almost sortof map now!

[piet]

I can almost sortof map now!
im looking forward to it

[D4shRed]

Maybe a nice link for you guys, it's a free Belgium Domain name. It's only for a year though. Maybe It can be of some use: http://reg.registratie-domein.be/

[piet]

http://www.razzarena.da.ru/cutenews/data/upimages/tubelectric.jpg

check out the site for more info about this map :)

[Trafton]

McDougal and camp, very cool stuff. Keep up the good work.

[Grytolle]

Someone make a 3D-version of bblair, please =D

[piet]

hi all, as some of have allready seen the suckertube model on the razz arena site.
for those who dont click the link in my sig.

im posting this because i need your help.

first i tought i could create tube systems like this:

using these models.

1. tube lenght
2. tube lenght with windows :)
3. tube start/end model (the yellow part)
4. tube splitters

but after some calculating i would have needed 58 tube splitter models.
and you must agree with me you cant work with that in quark, its just to mutch.
(not even talking about the time it would take to model them)

my calculation (if we can rotate models it would be less, but still a lot)

6 nCr 1 = 1
6 nCr 2 = 15
6 nCr 3 = 20
6 nCr 4 = 15
6 nCr 5 = 6
6 nCr 6 = 1
-------------+
58


but i was thinking: if we only make the tube itself holow and put warps just before the end of the tube (so before the splitter) and warp the player into the tube it can maybe do the trick.

i dont know a few of you can create maps for quake/razz, i need some feedback on this one.

oh and happy holidays!

[blurredd]

I don't know how important those calculations still are, but you made an error. 6 nCr 1 equals 6, not 1. I just wanted to point that out.

[MSB3000]

Use GtkRadiant ;D
http://www.qeradiant.com/

You can make tubes and stuff as a brush, and not as a model. That way, you can see how it looks as soon as you make it.
But I guess you do need models for the splitters.
But Milkshape can export as a .MAP file right?
And of course, I probably don't even know what's going on, right?

6 nCr 1 = 1
6 nCr 2 = 15
6 nCr 3 = 20
6 nCr 4 = 15
6 nCr 5 = 6
6 nCr 6 = 1
-------------+
58

Explain in layman's terms, please.

[piet]

quark can make brushes to. i allready used that as a test.
but i cant make it perfect the way i make it in milkshape.

but your are right it would be a lot more simple.

[MSB3000]

Hmmm...
Could you send me the md3's?

And what do you mean by
6 nCr 1 = 1
6 nCr 2 = 15
6 nCr 3 = 20
6 nCr 4 = 15
6 nCr 5 = 6
6 nCr 6 = 1
-------------+
58

^
Don't make none cents 2 me!

[ThunderPX]

I've taken my mirror down temporarily. I'll tell you when it's back up.

[piet]

ok fine :P we have other mirrors :)

[ThunderPX]

I'm extending the older songs. =D

[Olsen]

I always forget to check these things. :) Gl with this, is impressive.

[piet]

page claim in the name of beeing late for school

[ThunderPX]

Cool, now finish the game. =P *runs*

[MSB3000]

Piet, my map is complete! =D Now respond to my e-mail that you may or may not have! D=

[piet]

i dont think i have that email, but can you sent it again? and attach the pk3 :P?

[MSB3000]

Coolthnx.

EDIT: Later- Well, my computer is being a sux... Anyway, I keep getting a "Connection Error". I'll send it to you as soon as I can.

[ThunderPX]

I extended Console by 40 seconds or so... should I upload?

[piet]

set it to my gmail (pieteckhart@