What kind of storylines do you prefer in a levelpack?

[Fawriel]

Well, do tell.
The storyline to my big levelpack is not nearly done yet, so it can still be changed a lot depending on what you like. I'm fine with almost anything. =P
This could also be a help for anyone possibly thinking of a storyline for their own episode.

The choices you have are:

Lighthearted - Nothing serious at all. Pretty much like the previous JJ storylines, I guess.

Dark - People dying. Actual evil things. And action!

Funny - Anything funny, parodies, etc. "Princess Eva has been kidnapped by Devan's pet monkey Kinky Kong! Find the Hammer of Fortune to beat it, and the Cheese of Doom for no particular reason!" Or something like that. =P

Sad/Dramatic - Even sadder and very touching. Or simply touching. I don't remember anymore what this levelpack was called like that told you a story, "Another Story", I think... that would be a good example of real good drama.

Action - JAZZ KICKS BUTT! <- whole storyline

Complex - Bringing some more thought into the world of Jazz Jackrabbit - Are Devan's goals perhaps not that ill? Is there more behind Spaz? Etc, etc...

I guess that covers just about everything.
And my own vote goes for Complex.

[Olsen]

Ill prefer funny, but i think you should go on complex. that would be original.

[cooba]

Dark > Complex

[Tubz]

Considering that this is Jazz2, that we are talking about, Comedy. I chose action, because the next best thing to comedy is action, imo. And I think Jazz is all about action.

Incomplete thought, how careless of me, har har, I've never done that before.

BTW, wrong forum.

[Fawriel]

Wow. I think you're even right, Tubs.
I think I got too used to only posting in Misc. I didn't even think of where to put this thread. ^^;;

[Olsen]

I didn't even think of where to put this thread. ^^;;

Haha
:lol:

[FireSworD]

I like all of the above. Although I'd prefer action the most.

[Violet CLM]

When I think of repeated kidnapping, innumerable deaths, destruction of countless natural habitats, massive robbery, attempted destruction of (presumably) multiple planets, clone machines, attempted temporal genocide and paying a visit to hell itself, the first word that comes to mind is not "lighthearted". But maybe that's just me.
And "Another Story" needs some actual character development before I'll count it as a story. Or at least some more gameplay to make it better.

[Hazel-rah]

I'm thinking Rabbit Holocaust.

The occupation of Carrotus.

I'm writing... :)

Edit: erm, not for a level pack, though...

[Blackraptor]

Dark > Complex > Sad/Dramatic > Action > Funny > Lighthearted.

[Xion]

How about something that doesn't distract from what counts the most...THE GAMEPLAY. An RPG can have a dark, complex storyline since the gameplay is somewhat minimal. Just don't deck the gameplay for a very poor storyline. (hint hint FF7)

[Radium]

Lighthearted? Well, that can be good. However, there is nothing but gameplay to hold the player in. A few too many deaths or long levels and the player will just give up. Nothing will keep them hooked.
As for dark... if it has angst, make it justified and make sure angsty characters never win. The minute an angsty character saves the world, it becomes evident the story was written by an angsty teenager looking to take his anger out on the innocent players.
Funny? Well, if you can keep the player laughing, this will work. If you have one good joke every ten annoyingly hard bosses, it just ends up boring.
Dramatic can work, but only if the events can really touch the player. Too many storylines end up having the player say "wait, who just died?".
Action? Alone? Unless your gameplay kicks infinite... pass... the player will lose interest soon.
With complex, make sure any info given is relevant to the story, and, therefore relevant to completing the game. If a player who can't read can beat the game, your storyline sucks.

That said, I side with "whatever you think won't suck".

[Odin]

Action/Dark. Kinda like Abuse or Duke Nukem.

[Iam Canadian]

In a good complex story, you can get elements of all those things. So, complex.

[Stijn]

A good story is nothing without a well-created atmosphere, and vice versa. I'd go for something dark or sad, or something like in Rayman 2.

[Fawriel]

How about something that doesn't distract from what counts the most...THE GAMEPLAY. An RPG can have a dark, complex storyline since the gameplay is somewhat minimal. Just don't deck the gameplay for a very poor storyline. (hint hint FF7)
BLASPHEMY! *KICKS*

[White Rabbit]

I good story must have all elements in it. I want to vote for everything, especially dark and complex, but since that's not possible, I'll just stick to dark.

[LittleFreak]

The "funny story" thing has inspired me to get to work with JCS again. Thank you! :)
Most choices sound good, but please keep away from action, it sounds dull and has been made so many times.

[Fawriel]

The "funny story" thing has inspired me to get to work with JCS again. Thank you! :)
Erm. You're welcome. ^^;

[DoubleGJ]

A complex/funny hybrid. And new characters. And relations between them. And relations between them and the characters we already know. Radical plot twists, good/bad character changes. Don't forget relating to previous Jazz games. Wanting all that made me create the Devil Dash story just like it is, but don't think I'll give spoilers to anyone but betatesters. BUT I'd like to see someone else think of such storyline.

[Galavant]

The best is dramatic. But not anybody can do this, because it is hard to write it. In normal situation the best will by lighhearted stories + funny. Action is the best only in multi-player maps (ex. red must kill blue :P). But Coplex is good only with mixing with other types.
So I think, the best story for single player is Drama + Complex

[CrimiClown]

I prefer complex. I always make my stories NOT-jj2-related. Like, for example, my new story:

The Lost Tribe
June, 1990(Note: In this year, the turtle-fighting Jazz didn't exist. He was just a drawing.) Diamondus is entirely in peace. Jazz Jackrabbit was having his usual walk through the park. Untill...

A troup of Lizards were marching in the park. A large sign said: "Lizard Militairy base. Here to wipe out the Turtles."

Jazz was suprised by the word Turtle and started to investigate. Lizard Commander wasn't entirely impressed by his actions and threw his down a well, put down a large number of explosions and closed the pit.

Jazz woke up... Deep underground, he found a few marks written on the wall. "What's this?" he wondered. After some exploring, Jazz found the Tribe of Turtles, which told him the most amazing story...

"You, Jazz Jackrabbit, are chosen to be our King! You! But, there is one problem... In order to open the Throne Room, you must prove yourself. You must collect the Gem of Fire, Gem of Air, Gem of Blood and Gem of Dreams. Then, you will be our King and never, ever have to worry about anything again!"

Will Jazz be able to do this? And why does Devan hate him in the upcoming games, Jazz Jackrabbit 1 and 2? FIND OUT IN:

The Lost Tribe

Coming soon!

[Tubz]

Considering that this is Jazz2, that we are talking about, Comedy. I chose action, because the next best thing to comedy is action, imo. And I think Jazz is all about action.

Incomplete thought, how careless of me, har har, I've never done that before.

BTW, wrong forum.

I sound weird a year ago.

[LittleFreak]

Please don't post in old topics. Thank you.

[cooba]

And why does Devan hate him in the upcoming games, Jazz Jackrabbit 1 and 2?The official game sources say that Devan hates Jazz because Devan hates rabbits in general for their "vile, disgusting attitudes", FYI.

[CrimiClown]

The official game sources say that Devan hates Jazz because Devan hates rabbits in general for their "vile, disgusting attitudes", FYI.


Err.... SO?! 8D

[LittleFreak]

Haha, owned. =P

[CrimiClown]

Yeah, I got owned. But, anyone want to make a comment on my storyline? A serious one NOT pointing out the mistakes? ;)

EDIT: NO! I didn't got owned! He just answered the question. But, maybe THAT'S what I'd be using in the first place! \o/

[CrimiClown]

By the way: Cooba, can't wait for your episode... I expect something GOOD, seeming you comment a lot on mine... ;)

[LittleFreak]

I like storylines like that, however, the idea of finding gems/other magical items representing some elements has been there before quiet often. There are some spelling mistakes, by the way.

(yes, I know, I shouldn't point out any mistakes - which is why I did. I'm such a rebel.)

[Galavant]

I often write stories to, but then I want to translate it into engliish, it was very sensless. But I can try to do this...

[CrimiClown]

Oh, and, by the way, if you are looking for some Comedy (Brag brag) CHOOSE THIS ONE! (BRAG!!!)

http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=3540

Yes, I know, but it has a decent rating! XD

[LittleFreak]

I often write stories to, but then I want to translate it into engliish, it was very sensless. But I can try to do this...

You should try to find a translator then. :)

Oh, and, by the way, if you are looking for some Comedy (Brag brag) CHOOSE THIS ONE! (BRAG!!!)

http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/do...hp?levelID=3540

Yes, I know, but it has a decent rating! XD

The ending of the pack rocks, I remember that. ;D

The enemy placement is still horrible though. =P

[cooba]

You should try to find a translator then. :)Never trust translators.

[CrimiClown]

Translator = Evil!

It made my last French grade SUCK!

[LittleFreak]

I meant a human translator, actually. Of course translating programms suck.

[Xobim]

www.interglot.com is a good translator, try it!

And I chose: Complex, with loads of SF in it!

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Complex.

My level pack (in 5 parts because of stupid 2 MB filesize limits) has really good storyline, good cinematics, and good characters.

The sequel will totally OWN the first. A really good storyline with Jazz as a bounty hunter going after his old friend who escaped from the grave. That's the second pack by the way. The first one pales in comparison.

[LittleFreak]

My level pack (in 5 parts because of stupid 2 MB filesize limits) has really good storyline, good cinematics, and good characters.

Does it have good levels? Lost World has 3D cutscenes, ambient soundtracks, a new tileset and whatnot else but the levels are just mediocre.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Levels? Oh, uhmmm... remember the BIG level pack? Something like that but with better boss battles, better storyline, better music, and a few good levels. 2 lengthly ones. Or was it 1?

[LittleFreak]

No, I don't remember it, I might have missed that pack. Take my advice and concentrate on making the levels good. ;)

Or did you buy JJ2 to watch the intro cutscene?

[cooba]

Just to let you know, that episode you can see an ad for in my sig has a "kill Devan" kind of story.

Level quality >>> Story quality.

[Radium]

Just to let you know, that episode you can see an ad for in my sig has a "kill Devan" kind of story.
On a related note, I don't like the text in your sig image. "Will Jazz escape out of the jail he's put in?". Escape out of the jail? As opposed to escaping into the jail? And the jail he's put in? As opposed to the jail someone else is in? Or was that intentional?

[cooba]

On a related note, I don't like the text in your sig image. "Will Jazz escape out of the jail he's put in?". Escape out of the jail? As opposed to escaping into the jail? And the jail he's put in? As opposed to the jail someone else is in? Or was that intentional?You're pretty much right. *changes*

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I did make another ok pack. Jazz in training. My second pack I'm working on is about 20 times better than that. (BTW, you can get my packs from J2O. ZAPPER is the username.)

[FoxBlitzz]

I think you should have made this poll multiple choice. Some storylines have more than one of those choices.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Isn't that complex?

[Ae]

I look like the only one who prefers Lighthearted, so far.

[CrimiClown]

I just play for the good story. I don't care much about fancy 3d cutscene's and stuff... Music must be good though! I make loads of MP3's not bigger than 2mb, if anyone can make them into a file that DOES work with JJ2, gimme a PM. ;)

[blurredd]

It would be a lot easier to do so if the mp3 started off with a bunch of samples. If mp3's you made are remixes or whatnot, you can't expect much for quality.

[Radium]

I make loads of MP3's not bigger than 2mb, if anyone can make them into a file that DOES work with JJ2, gimme a PM. ;)
I think when you convert the file to a MOD sample, it changes the Mp3 to a WAV. Not entirely sure, though.

[Xobim]

WAV is way too big, the best way to make music for JJ2 is in XM, MOD, S3M with a tracker. I've got Fasttracker 2, but I suck at making mods.

[CrimiClown]

Yep

[FoxBlitzz]

FMod, the world's greatest MOD rendering engine, has support for MODs which use .ogg samples, which is pretty cool. On the other hand, the crappy Galaxy Sound System can't even play half of the songs it is given correctly.