LMAT (August)

[CrimiClown]

I honestly doubt it.
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[Violet CLM]

...me? what? What am I supposed to decide on?
When there actually is a .j2t file, I give Cooba full reign over the creation of an example level

[CrimiClown]

And... Cooba gave full reign to me... Soooo... The people have said they didn't need an example level. Well then, one Kansas coming up.

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I guess...

[Stijn]

K DEADLINE JANUARY 3RD

[CrimiClown]

K!

Who makes the account and uploads them? I don't wanna be responsible... :(

Edit: Responsible for bearing the password. =\ People would just yell at me and tell me it wasn't my tileset etc. :p

[Odin]

I'll do it. The password will be given to Violet for safekeeping, and if he's forgetful enough, i'll just post it here. If someone decides to use it as a dupe account, Quist can just ban it forever.

[CrimiClown]

The people have spoken. (http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/Kansas.zip)

[blurredd]

Hmm, so I really didn't mess up the palette at all. Awesome.

[n00b]

The people have spoken. (http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/Kansas.zip)
You better have used Fooruman's Magical Space Wasteland somewhere in those names ;(
EDIT- You didn't. You just rendered the name contest useless as I'm pretty sure that was the deal.

[CrimiClown]

Cooba gave me the tilesets. Now carry on and let the peasant rest, ktnxluvbye. :p

[n00b]

Cooba gave me the tilesets. Now carry on and let the peasant rest, ktnxluvbye. :p
Besides, Arkansas came in 4th place.
This sir means war.

[CrimiClown]

This sir means war.
It does, doesn't it? Well, you see, when Unknown Rabbit gave 'full reign' to Cooba, he actually did... So, ask Cooba. And, it's just a name... :|

[n00b]

It does, doesn't it? Well, you see, when Unknown Rabbit gave 'full reign' to Cooba, he actually did... So, ask Cooba. And, it's just a name... :|
A name we had a poll over son. Do want those people's votes to go wasted?
It's like saying "Despite the fact you may have won the poll of 'BEST PERSON EVER', the regins were handed to someone else who thought the fourth place person was better. Because of this, everyone's vote no longer counts and you're no longer the best"

[cooba]

When I was asking on #jj2 whether I should give the tilesets different names than Kansas and Arkansas, you were there but said nothing.

[n00b]

Probably idle. I tend to idle and not change my name

[CrimiClown]

A name we had a poll over son. Do want those people's votes to go wasted?
It's like saying "Despite the fact you may have won the poll of 'BEST PERSON EVER', the regins were handed to someone else who thought the fourth place person was better. Because of this, everyone's vote no longer counts and you're no longer the best"
1) I am not your son. :p
2) I can't help it. I got the tileset as .j2t files.

[blurredd]

When I was asking on #jj2 whether I should give the tilesets different names than Kansas and Arkansas, you were there but said nothing.Because #JJ2 is the best place for JJ2 discussions? If only this had always been true. I'm indifferent as to what name the tileset uses, as long as <strike>it's Kansas</strike> it gets released sometime this century.

[n00b]

1) I am not your son. :p
That was my inner American-Commando-Stereotype speaking

[Odin]

That was my inner American-Commando-Stereotype speaking

I imagined a confederate leader speaking, drunk on smores schnopps. Though that's just me.

[Violet CLM]

It's like saying "Despite the fact you may have won the poll of 'BEST PERSON EVER', the regins were handed to someone else who thought the fourth place person was better. Because of this, everyone's vote no longer counts and you're no longer the best"
<a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showpost.php?p=332899&postcount=38">You are so talking to the wrong person.</a>

[CrimiClown]

<a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showpost.php?p=332899&postcount=38">You are so talking to the wrong person.</a>
*wipes away tears of joy*

Edit: *WHILE CLAIMING THE PAGE*

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Is it finished yet?!??! It's been half a year!

[CrimiClown]

The people have spoken. (http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/Kansas.zip)
If you just looked back a little... =\

[Odin]

Is it finished yet?!??! It's been half a year!

I find it extremely odd that the only thing you have ever done in this thread is complain about the tileset's time. Clearly the impossible idea of actually helping out and helping to speed up the progress hasn't crossed your mind; instead you simply whine about it never being released. Either help out, give constructive criticism, or don't post at all.

[CrimiClown]

The ironic part is, that it has been... =\

[ShadeJackrabbit]

I find it extremely odd that the only thing you have ever done in this thread is complain about the tileset's time.
Maybe that's because it takes less than a month to finish compiling a tileset!
Clearly the impossible idea of actually helping out and helping to speed up the progress hasn't crossed your mind;
It has, but nobody ever takes kindly to my help. (Which I learned in september.) That is, while dealing with tilesets.
instead you simply whine about it never being released.
I only posted like, 3 times in the whole thread. And again, there's no way it should take this long!
Either help out
Certain members wouldn't want me to.
give constructive criticism
About what? A tileset not yet released on J2O?
or don't post at all.
What do you think I've been doing? Posting? If the tileset is done, there should be a little link in the first post.

Also, I DON'T GIVE A (-) ABOUT AN EXAMPLE LEVEL. Why don't you just release the example as a single level and get this thing over with.

[cooba]

The official "why so long" ranting period has ended a while ago so do everyone a favor and be quiet.
If the tileset is done, there should be a little link in the first post.Obviously since you want a little link in the first post it's a great idea to say that it OUGHT to be there or the whole concept of universe's balance breaks! :( oh noes

[n00b]

Dear Zapper:
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/TOPRP/sgupandwaitn00b.png

[Odin]

Dear Zapper:
http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/TOPRP/sgupandwaitn00b.png

n00b recieves a Nobel Internet Prize for his work in Imagery.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

The picture was funny once.
Obviously since you want a little link in the first post it's a great idea to say that it OUGHT to be there or the whole concept of universe's balance breaks! oh noes
You obviously don't go on many game development forums because when somethings done, the author or organizers puts that in the first post. That wayreaders know and don't have to scour though (at this point 14 pages) to find the finished version! But if you want to be disorganized I can't stop you. Now that is all I want to say unless somebody has a good reason why it shouldn't be on the first page when it's done.

[n00b]

Zapper, you should take the image's advice and shut up, and wait. People will hate you less, and you'll make less mistakes, and I'll stop posting it.
The first post was made by Violet, since then the project has been put into Crimi's hands who doesn't even have a post on the first page. If you actually read people's posts and not be such a n00b at fourms, you would have found the link anyways.

[Fawriel]

He has a point, actually.

[Odin]

You obviously don't go on many game development forums because when somethings done, the author or organizers puts that in the first post. That wayreaders know and don't have to scour though (at this point 14 pages) to find the finished version! But if you want to be disorganized I can't stop you. Now that is all I want to say unless somebody has a good reason why it shouldn't be on the first page when it's done.

When the tileset is done, it will be uploaded to J2O. Simple as that.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Again, sensability is though of as sux, and so am I. If I said something like: This whole forum are/is (something)! would it get PA'd? And also, why are you so quick to attack me! I have done nothing wrong. As I would like to say right now:
"Well EXCUUUUUSE me, for being sensible!"
And why does everybody fight me for being serious at times? GRR!!! WHY DOES IT ALWAYS GET DOWN TO ME SAYING THIS IF I POST ANYTHING THAT ISN'T: "Omg! This is so awesome! It rocks so (-) much!!!!" Stop attacking me because I'm smart and sensible!!!! ARGHH!!!! *runs screaming from the room*
Sorry. I'm calmed down now. Yet would YOU guys at least think before YOU post? For crying out loud! You don't even give me a reason to "Shut up and wait."

EDIT: Oh.. oh okay. Somebody posted before me... and followed common sense... okay... bye.

[Doubble Dutch]

You DO have a point.

[n00b]

Dear ZAPPER:
If you're so smart and sensible why didn't you read the thread, find out why it couldn't be on the first page, find the link to the tileset from Crimi, and averted this whole thing?

[ShadeJackrabbit]

If you're so smart and sensible why didn't you read the thread
14 pages? It's a waste of my time.
find out why it couldn't be on the first page
You're right, I should have.
find the link to the tileset from Crimi
in the 14 pages.
and averted this whole thing?
If I were t spend the time, I would've, but let me tell you this: Crimiclown should have then contacted somebody on the first page and told them to put in the link. I see your reasoning, and why you're angry, but you must understand one thing about me first: I have over-organised My Documents, and I like things organized. And just because I happen to feel a bit... annoyed with the untideness here, It's not going to prevent me speaking my mind. So please don't bite my head off for it.

Also, this more importantly, I'm sorry for snapping at Odin, Fawriel, n00b, and CrimiClown. I hope you can forgive me, I'm just very stressed out.

[Violet CLM]

I am sorry I didn't realize I should do this. Everyone should be happy that there is now a link in the first post.

[ShadeJackrabbit]

Thank you. And again, sorry for the burst-out.
EDIT: Link doesn't work. Goes to some weird page.

[Odin]

Of course it works.

[n00b]

It worked for me

[Odin]

See?

[cooba]

...;).

[Pako]

The link DOES work. Why you complain? Oh, yes, its because it goes to http://www.infallibull.com/, wich doesnt have nothing to do with the Kansas tileset...
EDIT: Oooohh, i found the ANOTHER button, with leads to Kansas tileset...

[cooba]

...I love your ignorance ;).

[ShadeJackrabbit]

And I love your attitude... anyways, where is this "Another" button, that lead to the tileset?

[CrimiClown]

omg omg omg ZAPPER click this NOW and be happy and shut the hell up or I will seriously stab you with your own bloody scissors! (http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/Kansas.zip)

[cooba]

butbut Crimi its not on the first post :( :( :( :(

[CrimiClown]

butbut Crimi its not on the first post :( :( :( :(
Too bad then. I'll just send him a few hundred pm's... =P

[Pako]

In the first post, after the To rectify this, here is a link. (http://www.infallibull.com/), theres a little button, linking to the tileset. (http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/Kansas.zip)[/url][url="http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/Kansas.zip"] (http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/Kansas.zip)

[CrimiClown]

Wow, Pako. Nice find! =D

[Fawriel]

You guys are being mean. =P

[n00b]

You guys are being mean. =P
Seriously mean. Do you know how it feels to have your BIGGEST HOPES AND DREAMS crushed like tiny blades of grass?

[Odin]

Seriously mean. Do you know how it feels to have your BIGGEST HOPES AND DREAMS crushed like tiny blades of grass?

Do you know how many people are stuck with jj2 1.23 and are unable to play as Lori?!

[Fawriel]

'Tis a shame, 'tis.

[Risp_old]

Thank you. And again, sorry for the burst-out.
EDIT: Link doesn't work. Goes to some weird page.
He said 'here is a link.' He never said what it was a link TO. You have got to admit, if it sends you to another website it must be a working link.

[n00b]

Do you know how many people are stuck with jj2 1.23 and are unable to play as Lori?!
And those people who can't use the better tilesets.

[Violet CLM]

He said 'here is a link.' He never said what it was a link TO. You have got to admit, if it sends you to another website it must be a working link.
<a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=13494&page=14&pp=40">This is also a working link!</a>



EDIT: <a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=3981">And here is a better link.</a>

[ShadeJackrabbit]

omg omg omg ZAPPER click this NOW and be happy and shut the hell up or I will seriously stab you with your own bloody scissors!
Ironically the ones you gave me. Now shut up. i already got it thanks to common sense.
Seriously mean. Do you know how it feels to have your BIGGEST HOPES AND DREAMS crushed like tiny blades of grass?
SHUT THE (-) UP!!!
Don't start a flame war. And that was a real old thread. If you have a (-) problem with being (-) nice, THEN GO DO SOMETHING I'M NOT ALOUD TO SAY!!!

Oh and faw, if you were being sarcastic, you can shut the (-) up too.

[Fawriel]

Hmm, I wasn't. Unfortunately, peer pressure made me add a =P to make it sound less serious. Peer pressure is stupid.

[n00b]

i already got it thanks to common sense.
You mean the common sense you didn't use in the first place of reading posts before yours to make sure someone hasn't alreayd posted a link, or paying attention to the thread if you were actually waiting for it?
The very same common sense which would have averted this whole entire thing?

[FQuist]

Can you guys please stop it.

[Blackraptor]

this made me laugh.

[FireSworD]

Some of you guys really need to get out more.

[Odin]

Hey guys could you stop talking because Violet wanted to close this thread but he can't because he's not a moderator here k

[n00b]

Some of you guys really need to get out more.
That would only delay the posts.

[blurredd]

Since this chapter of LMAT is finally done, maybe we can start thinking about the next LMAT.

[CrimiClown]

I second Blur. LMAT Februari sounds better anyway. =P

*claims the page, because nobody did*

[WaterRabbit]

What about finishing LMAT(September)?

[CrimiClown]

September just plain sucked. Deal with it. =\

[cooba]

I'm so glad we got over this at last =P.
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[ShadeJackrabbit]

I liked september.

[n00b]

LMAT September should be forgotten.
It never existed.

[cooba]

LMAT September should be forgotten.
It never existed.So much potential wasted.

[Odin]

I think labeling LMAT tilesets months just puts more pressure to get it done on time, which reduces quality and possibly speed. I suggest we don't do that.

[cooba]

Kansas was pretty good, though. And you don't get much pressure until a few last days anyway.

[Odin]

Nonetheless, it just makes people expect the tileset to come out on the month, when in this case it didn't happen. :P

[Risp_old]

Aww, does that mean that I wasted my time drawing that pirate zepplinship thing?

[blurredd]

It might just be better to number them for now on (e.g. LMAT #4 for the next one). I still think most of the work should be done within a month though. Quality is mostly an issue of who's contributing and what's already been contributed.

[n00b]

Aww, does that mean that I wasted my time drawing that pirate zepplinship thing?
No, just toss in the next LMAT before we have a chance to make a theme

[blurredd]

Also, how the tileset is handled after the month (or whatever designated time period) is over has to be improved. Maybe anyone should be allowed to compile the tileset with whatever changes they want, and the best version is made into the official LMAT tileset.

On a side note, LMAT (September) can still be salvaged although I think it will need a lot of changes.

[CrimiClown]

In my opinion, we should give up September. Let's just start off clean in Februari (Oops, shortest month! :O ). This will give us whole of Januari to come up with idea's and themes and God knows what.

[Violet CLM]

I hope to get September working within the next few days if nobody else does. Then we have something to work on until February, which I have been discussing with Cooba.

[blurredd]

Here's an idea (based off what Crimi said): how about a thread just for posting random groups of tiles and themes to see what fits together. Suggestions can be saved for later, and the best tiles will be used to start the next LMAT. This will inevitably exclude some contributions, but it will provide a great base for the next tileset.

Or is this all too similar to LMAT itself?

[CrimiClown]

Here's an idea (based off what Crimi said): how about a thread just for posting random groups of tiles and themes to see what fits together. Suggestions can be saved for later, and the best tiles will be used to start the next LMAT. This will inevitably exclude some contributions, but it will provide a great base for the next tileset.

Or is this all too similar to LMAT itself?
I personally think this could work. And, it won't be as LMAT, because you just post what YOU think should be tiles.

[Violet CLM]

That could work... there does seem to be a certain aspect in LMAT of taking old unused tiles and getting them out into the mainstream. I do have a plan for something that February could be based on, but if you want to try that and see what sort of things people can come up with without any prompt at all, go ahead.

[Blackraptor]

Hey, if none of you guys want to, I could quickly make an example level with Kansas/Arkansas (unless you dont need/want one).

[cooba]

...you're being kind by proposing this after the tileset's release.

[CrimiClown]

If you wish. I gave up since nobody really needed one, they said. If you want, you can make one so we can add it to the file on j2o. :)