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yula de la KLZ.
Jan 12, 2007, 12:59 PM
Umm, yeah.
So.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/December.jpg
Just the opening page of my current sketchbook.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/Armygirl.jpg
Army girl. Yeah, girls must serve in the army too over here. Well army uniform isn't that bad :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/Otis.jpg
Ah-huh.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/Bunneez.jpg
Those are Bunneez, actually.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/SKP-1.jpg
Skinny Puppy fan art [I like them ^^].

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/OMGfreaks.jpg
By the way, the little Chibi me is saying "OMG freaks".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/Moi.jpg
Me, in a less anime-ish way.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/LeDragon.jpg
And this is just... well, a dragon.

Au-revoir!

Strato
Jan 12, 2007, 01:15 PM
Well, I like what I see here. I definitly prefer your less esoteric stuff over your anime/chibi work.

How are you about taking criticisms?

yula de la KLZ.
Jan 12, 2007, 01:35 PM
S'more.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/kirsikkakuunvalo5722872.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/kirsikkakuunvalo5722873.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/kirsikkakuunvalo5722871.jpg

Well, I like what I see here. I definitly prefer your less esoteric stuff over your anime/chibi work.

How are you about taking criticisms?

Thanks. :)
I'm ok with that, I guess.

Strato
Jan 12, 2007, 01:42 PM
Well, some people get really angry or whatever. So you'll have to promise to be professional and not take crits personally

Erik
Jan 12, 2007, 01:47 PM
kaleidoscopiklimax

also, SKWEEEE. this is win.

n00b
Jan 12, 2007, 02:38 PM
I love what I'm seeing.
++The Bunneez

Sonyk
Jan 12, 2007, 04:05 PM
I like the stuff you draw.

Very nice indeed. I second Strato's comment though.

Monolith
Jan 12, 2007, 07:17 PM
I like your work. Especially the stylized/surreal stuff. It looks like you have a good basis in art. Keep it up!

Anaiyu
Jan 13, 2007, 01:16 AM
You're very good at human faces, I see. Stick with it. The way you have kirsikkakuunvalo5722872.jpg and Moi.jpg drawn is beautiful. A little work on the hair and how to make it flow, but the facial structure is awesome.

yula de la KLZ.
Jan 13, 2007, 03:14 AM
Thankyou all!
Surreal stuff is quite old, and I do have some problems with drawing hair properly... But hey I'm trying ^^"
And the Bunneez are a series of stickers, you know, street art. (: I plan on making loads of them. I like bunnies :D

DoubleGJ
Jan 13, 2007, 09:44 AM
I am impressed. Especially by the second portion. Wicked mind you have there!

MoonBlazE
Jan 13, 2007, 10:20 AM
Perspective. A word you need to get familiar with.

All your drawings seem so empty. It's hard to understand where you try to put your attention in your drawings. There's no focus, no "golden cut". Let's take your second drawing as an example:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/Armygirl.jpg

Supposedly it's a portrait but she's not looking at us. She's looking at something else, drawing our attention to something that isn't drawn in the picture. And again:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/LeDragon.jpg

The dragon seems to be facing something we're not really able to see. It gives this empty feeling again as if the picture simply wasn't done.

You also need to work more with your colors. Try using darker and lighter colors to express the theme of your picture. An illustration revolving sadness would obviously. Your chibi picture's colors are so much off that it looks like some combination of a gentle halloween picture featuring a rayman character.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/KlawZ_666/OMGfreaks.jpg

Smacking a black background on that and using some more "cold colors" for your chibi would have touched the theme much more than what you used there.

I'm not sure how far you are willing to go with your art but with some work it could really get much better. The opinion I've formed of your current art lies in the lines of "talented school girl"; your pieces doesn't seem too worked through.

Stijn
Jan 13, 2007, 10:32 AM
I have to agree with Moonblaze. For example, take this mediocre painting:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/Girlwithapearlearringpainting.jpg/300px-Girlwithapearlearringpainting.jpg

This gives the impression the girl is looking away from something. The object the girl was looking at the moment before is not visible. This is obviously bad practise, as it gives a great feeling of emptiness. It also makes the painting look only half-done. I advice that in the future you keep expanding your paintings until there are only people looking at each other left.

A few other examples showcasing this terrible mistake:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Portr%C3%A4tt_f%C3%B6rest%C3%A4llande_Sophie_Piper %2C_m%C3%A5lning_av_Carl_Fredrik_von_Breda.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Christoph_Martin_Wieland_by_Jagemann.jpeg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Willy_Reetz_Portrait_1915.jpg/587px-Willy_Reetz_Portrait_1915.jpg

Strato
Jan 13, 2007, 10:35 AM
Emptiness isn't something to shy away from, especially if it's what you're trying to go for. But traditionally, focusing on the viewer is better for a portrait style, or if you want to convey greater action, focusing on something else in the picture.

You should be happy that people are giving such notice to this thread. Most of these things go unnoticed.

Radium
Jan 13, 2007, 10:36 AM
Like Anaiyu said, you can do a good job with faces. However, I encourage you to try some different expressions, or work more on bodies (bodies are people too!).

Moonblaze brings up a good point about color, but I'm not sure I'd worry about it for things like the chibi picture. I mean, if she's saying "omg freaks", super dramatic coloring won't fit. Try some drawings with colored light sources some time, though.

Lastly, I'm not a huge fan of your surreal stuff. The concept is nice; it's like an assortment of objects that, together, tell a story or convey an idea. However, it ends up looking like a senseless jumble; I'm not sure where my eye is supposed to go. In ones like kirsikkakuunvalo5722872.jpg, for example, try making the S-shaped thing (a tail or a palm tree?) the focal point of the picture, so it leads the viewer on a guided tour through the rest of it. You can also use this to control the order in which people "read" the picture.

MoonBlazE
Jan 13, 2007, 10:47 AM
Emptiness isn't something to shy away from, especially if it's what you're trying to go for. But traditionally, focusing on the viewer is better for a portrait style, or if you want to convey greater action, focusing on something else in the picture.

Emptiness can be good if that's the theme of the picture, yes, but it also needs to be revolved around that then; more space around the character, colors that match. Emptiness isn't like the sun - you can't stuff it in everywhere and expect it to contribute, it's too close to what seems like unfinished work.

From a quick DA art search:

<object width="450" height="569"><param name="movie" value="http://backend.deviantart.com/embed/view.swf"></param><param name="flashvars" value="id=31007723" /><embed src="http://backend.deviantart.com/embed/view.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="450" flashvars="id=31007723" height="569"></embed></object><br /><a href="http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/31007723/">Emptiness</a> by *<a class="u" href="http://zindy.deviantart.com/">Zindy</a> on <a href="http://www.deviantart.com">deviant</a><a href="http://www.deviantart.com">ART</a>

It's actually a very good piece. The artist have stuck only to using a greyscale set of colors and left out space so that in a full view your attention befalls her eyes directly. It gives you a feeling of emptiness but not in the same way as yula's work - it doesn't feel as if there's something missing but instead when staring into the depth of the character, you feel her emotion and even thoughts are empty.

Strato
Jan 13, 2007, 11:24 AM
Moonblaze, I agreed with you =P. You dont' need to explain to me that emptiness needs to be the focus or at least a major theme to contribute.

Anyway, you're quite talented and have a lot of potential to grow, keep that in mind. But if you want to bring a lot of life to your drawings, follow these simple steps!!

You could learn a lot by trying to draw things from very different angles. Right now, everything seems to be a bit head on, or from the side. I try to picture all the objects in a drawing as a 3d model, and visualize what it looks like from all possible angles. For instance :

http://www.stratn.com/angletutorial.jpg

On the right is a house. The angle is flat on, viewing the front, completly making the sides invisible. It's not that exciting. On the right though, the viewing angle is high above the ground looking down across the facade of the building. The impression of height is given off and immediatly looks better. See the difference? If you can apply that concept to other drawings, you could give off great ideas about size. Consider how awesome the drawing of the dragon would be, if you had the angle of the drawing from ground level, looking up at it. The viewer would feel daunted by it's size, therefore the fear aspect would be accentuated.

MoonBlazE
Jan 13, 2007, 12:29 PM
Moonblaze, I agreed with you =P. You dont' need to explain to me that emptiness needs to be the focus or at least a major theme to contribute.
... It didn't mean I was explaining it only to you. :)

Blackraptor
Jan 13, 2007, 12:46 PM
I like your surreal stuff the best. Everything is chaotic and jumbled up and make no sense, which means it's pretty awesome. Color could help, though.

yula de la KLZ.
Jan 14, 2007, 06:44 AM
Wow, so many useful tips :D Thanks. I never studied arts, I guess that's one of my major problems. But all those remarks upon a simple little sketchbook really gave me something to think about. :)
Gracias!

sweetness 001
Jan 14, 2007, 10:19 AM
wow, ur art is rlly rlly good

Erik
Jan 14, 2007, 10:22 PM
rlly rlly good indeed

Fawriel
Jan 14, 2007, 11:18 PM
I wish I had something to add, but I really don't.
You rock. Go for it.