1st round matchup

[[GpW]Urbs]

I think the tightest game will be Sweden vs Belgium.

Poland vs Israel should own too. One question though, do you think slovenia will get pwned harder by Finland, or will the italians get ravaged even more by the Dutch?

ohh and, this is the message from the organisers:

There has been now... a slight change...
Every team faces every team once, not twice, which would take too long.
The first round pairs are as follows:

Australia - United Kingdom (Sat 17th, 14.00 GMT)
Belgium - Sweden (Sat 17th, 15.00 GMT)
Finland - Slovenia (Sat 17th, 16.00 GMT)
Germany - Romania (Sat 17th, 17.00 GMT)
Israel - Poland (Sat 17th, 18.00 GMT)
Italy - Netherlands (Sat 17th, 19.00 GMT)

-The host must log the match, that goes for all matches.
(Carrotade is recommended)
-If the above times don't work, u may postpone your matches, but really try you best to play them before sunday evening, will ya?
-Anyone both teams can agree on may host the matches.
Official hosts include me, Sasik and Vegito (Though he doesn't seem too motivated.)
-Each match is best out of 3 rounds (which are to 5 points, each!). Teams can agree on which team chooses their level in the first round and which in the second.
If there are disagreements, the alphabetically first team chooses first.
The third round may be played in any mappool level both teams can agree on.
Again, if there's no agreement, it will be played in a standard level, such as Semi, BBlair or JE.
-Whichever team is blue in the first round will be red in the second. The third round team colors may be agreed on. If agreement isn't made, the team that has the worse score difference till then may choose their team color.

[Raven aka StL]

Thanks Urbs, for everything. :D

EDIT: and yes, u will get pwned... in a gentle way :p
EDIT2: And you're hereby a tournament official for reminding me about that, thank you very much. :P

[Raven aka StL]

Round 1

Australia - United Kingdom (Sat 17th, 14.00 GMT)
Belgium - Sweden (Sat 17th, 15.00 GMT)
Finland - Slovenia (Sat 17th, 16.00 GMT)
Germany - Romania (Sat 17th, 17.00 GMT)
Israel - Poland (Sat 17th, 18.00 GMT)
Italy - Netherlands (Sat 17th, 19.00 GMT)

-The host must log the match, that goes for all matches.
(Carrotade is recommended)

-If the above times don't work, u may postpone your matches, but really try you best to play them before sunday evening, will ya?

-Anyone both teams can agree on may host the matches.
Official hosts include me, Sasik and Vegito (Though he doesn't seem too motivated.)

-Each match is best out of 3 rounds (which are to 5 points, each!). Teams can agree on which team chooses their level in the first round and which in the second.
If there are disagreements, the alphabetically first team chooses first.
The third round may be played in any mappool level both teams can agree on.
Again, if there's no agreement, it will be played in a standard level, such as Semi, BBlair or JE.

-Whichever team is blue in the first round will be red in the second. The third round team colors may be agreed on. If agreement isn't made, the team that has the worse score difference till then may choose their team color.

[[GpW]Urbs]

i hope that doesnt mean i have to host, cuz my connection doesnt rock...
I can help when i have time but that isnt often im afraid.

[Raven aka StL]

Urbs']i hope that doesnt mean i have to host, cuz my connection doesnt rock...
I can help when i have time but that isnt often im afraid.

No not a host nor does it bind you to do anything. Just because u did something to assist with the organization, I named u an official. U have no new tasks though. Unless you'd like to. :)

[Vegito]

I'll already have to postpone the match from the Netherlands if I can't get anyone else to play.
I won't be online pretty much the entire saturday evening, because of a birthday. Not an unusual birthday either, someone turns 50. I already agreed at going there, so they expect me.

(So maybe DS, Chiyu and Ani can play? =P Or Quickz, whatever. I'll make sure the Dutchies are notified about my problem.)

SORRY FOR PUTTING YOU LAST QUICKZ BUT I LOVE YOU TOO! -

[Raven aka StL]

That's too bad Veg. Oh but do have a good time.
Thanks a lot for 'replacing yourself' anyways, lol. :P

[maverick]

My predictions :

Australia - United Kingdom - won't be played

Belgium - Sweden - If Sweden shows up , it will be interesting game

Finland - Slovenia - Finland

Germany - Romania - Won't be played

Italy - Netherlands - I'd bet on The Netherlands but Italy's rossters have improved a lot lately so it might be very interesting game

[R3ptile]

good morning

my predictions (assuming all matches are played):

Australia - United Kingdom United Kingdom
Belgium - Sweden Belgium
Finland - Slovenia Finland
Germany - Romania Germany
Israel - Poland Poland
Italy - Netherlands Netherlands

edit: we don't get it, though... does this work like Chippie's JJ2WC III? if one team wins by 5-4 then losses by 5-1, then a third, tie-breaker round is played? if one team wins both rounds then a third round is not needed, right? this is what "best of three levels" means, anyways.

[[GpW]Urbs]

uhm ya exactly, if one team wins in 2 rounds, is the 3rd needed?

ohh and, why is every1 betting against us? I mean, team slovenia is like: hell yeah!

[Sasik]

edit: we don't get it, though... does this work like Chippie's JJ2WC III? if one team wins by 5-4 then losses by 5-1, then a third, tie-breaker round is played? if one team wins both rounds then a third round is not needed, right? this is what "best of three levels" means, anyways.
I think it is based on rounds, not scores. But it would be nice to see how Emp understands BO3.

[[GpW]Urbs]

Just so you guys know, i still havent been able to contact any1 from team slovenia, so the way things stand now, we won't make it...
Hopefully that will change by 4 pm GMT.

Another question, is 4pm GMT 5pm CET or 3 pm CET?

[R3ptile]

@urbs: 5pm

there's a new irc channel where you can discuss about teams, matches and get LIVE reports at #jj2.nationscup

[DarkSonic]

Australia - United Kingdom: United Kingdom
Belgium - Sweden: Belgium
Finland - Slovenia: Finland
Germany - Romania: Germany
Israel - Poland: Poland
Italy - Netherlands: Netherlands

This would be the most logical, but maybe there will be some surprises.

[R3ptile]

Australia - United Kingdom: United Kingdom
Belgium - Sweden: Belgium
Finland - Slovenia: Finland
Germany - Romania: Germany
Israel - Poland: Poland
Italy - Netherlands: Netherlands

This would be the most logical, but maybe there will be some surprises.
couldn't you just quote my reply :D

[Stijn]

I have merged Wallace's result thread with this one, for they serve the same purpose. Please do not open seperate threads for every round, but use this thread for discussing the results of all rounds instead.

[[GpW]Urbs]

If our team plays, finland is as good as dead...

[PurpleJazz]

Round 1

Australia - United Kingdom (Sat 17th, 14.00 GMT)


That's about 2am in Australia, who would want to play that early?????
22.00 GMT would be better.

[R3ptile]

</o>JJ2 Nations Cup Standings & Matches & Results (http://www.jazz2online.com/jj2wc/nationscup/)

[Raven aka StL]

Rep, there's already a site for that...
It will be finished momentarily...

@ Few people: When it's best of three rounds, it means rounds, not scores.

@ Stijn: Would you mind not closing my threads about this when I'm the cup admin? I'd pretty much appreciate it.

@ PJ: Yes, that's better, thank you.

Post match results here, thanks.

[Stijn]

@ Wallace: I close (actually, I meged them) threads that serve exactly the same purpose other threads that have some active discussion going on. Whether you are cup admin or not is irrelevant.

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

Nice game haha joke!

Ionatz's Graphic card doesn't work so Jazz2 doesn't work.

so German team won this round?

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

poles won?

[R3ptile]

on a side note, i think it was quite dumb to put two of the best teams against each other already in the beginning.

[Sasik]

']poles won?
Yeah, don't you see it? I'll write it then maybe a bit more clearly than R3p ;P

http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif Israel vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif Poland

Teams:
http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif Israel: AvK, R3ptile, SkulL (always blue)
http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif Poland: Maverick, Sasik, Sperry (always red)

1st Round:
Map: Bloodbunny's Lair
Host: http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif DarkSonic
Score: http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif ISR vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL 5-0
Well, Israel chose BBlair. From the start it was really bad game for us. We did many stupid mistakes + also some lags and 3hk's (especially for Mav) did what they always do ;) Israel was better, imo.

2nd Round:
Map: Happy Semiconductor CTF
Host: http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif DarkSonic
Score: http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif ISR vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL 3-5
Again, we were losing at the beginning but then made nice comeback and won. Semi was our choice, btw.

3rd Round:
Map: Diamondus Warzone
Host: http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif DarkSonic
Score: http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif ISR vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL 0-5
We wanted to do other level, but R3p insisted to play DW, so we agreed. It looks like we were just better and won without many problems.

Overall: http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif ISR vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL 1-2 (8-10)
GG I must say. The games were quite exciting. Also, I'd like to thank my team for nice victory. GJ. Thanks goes too to DS for hosting all games, personally I didn't have any problems with the server, though.
However, overall it's quite disappointing that only one match were played today. I hope you will announce the pairs for the next round asap, Emp.

[Raven aka StL]

Ugh, I hate multireplying, but what's a dood to do...

@ Stijn: Never mind, good idea. :/

@ Hatebreed: If Ionut can't play tomorrow (18th Feb), you get a forfeit win.

@ Rep: I chose the first round draw to be this weekend, for testing purposes, that's why it is how it is. The next draw will be on monday and will last for that week. Also, every team will face every team, so it hardly matters did you face Poland now or on round 9. The teams were chosen by random anyway, by a program.

@ Sasik: Yes, the next round draw will be on monday and will last for the week or till all games have been played (and forfeit wins given).

Question! :
Should there be CTF events, where the country of every participating player gets about 20 % as many points as a team gets for a ctf match win? (with max: 3 players / country, maybe?)
Just a wicked idea, answer:p

Newsflash! -point system- (which can be changed later...)

-CTF match win: 5 points
-CTF match loss: 1 point
-CTF match forfeit win: 3 points (?)
(-CTF event win: 1 point / player [max 3 players / country]) (?)


EDIT: And way to go Poland. With that you've momentarily seized the lead. :P

[Grytolle]

Poland<3

[Sasik]

Question! :
Should there be CTF events, where the country of every participating player gets about 20 % as many points as a team gets for a ctf match win? (with max: 3 players / country, maybe?)
Just a wicked idea, answer:p

(-)(-)(-)? No. This is not JDC. This is just a 3vs3 CTF Tournament.

Newsflash! -point system- (which can be changed later...)

-CTF match win: 5 points
-CTF match loss: 1 point
-CTF match forfeit win: 3 points (?)
(-CTF event win: 1 point / player [max 3 players / country]) (?)

No. Forfeit win have to give the same number of points as normal victory.
Rather like this:
1 Match win = Forfeit win = 3 points.
1 Round won in a match = 1 point.
1 Match loss = 0 points.

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

ok whatelse... When is the 2nd round. German team is a bit boarded because we pass without a game with Romania ;/

[Sasik]

@HB & Emp: You should try to organize that game (Germany vs Romania). Like the others one too. Emp simply said about the pairs too late. Give people time to play one game.

[R3ptile]

@ Rep: I chose the first round draw to be this weekend, for testing purposes, that's why it is how it is. The next draw will be on monday and will last for that week. Also, every team will face every team, so it hardly matters did you face Poland now or on round 9. The teams were chosen by random anyway, by a program.
dude why don't you use your brain? it does matter a lot, you should give teams time to prepare themselves and get into the tourney, especially for a rusty team like us.

[R3ptile]

ok Israel's comments for the match vs. Poland

1st round in BBLAIR: everything went perfect, just like we used to pwn few years ago. 5-0

2nd round in Semi: we were leading by 3-0 (untill that point we've already had an overall 8-0 lead!). can't even explain in words how (-) we are, the match simply ran out of our hands. with JJ2WC rules we would've won, too. 3-5

3rd round in DW: well we were already broken and things just didn't go our way. we roasted them a lot more times but didn't even manage to get on the right timing and score even one point. 0-5

overall those were really nice, though quite disappointing games. gj for the poles and good luck in the future! we'll hopefully keep improving, untill we reach the performance level of the first and half of the second round without messing things up (we should've won both rounds by 5-0 ;|)

[R3ptile]

Roasts

BBlair Semi DW

R3ptile 7 33 18 = 58
AvK 8 14 9 = 31
Skull 11 17 12 = 40

Maverick 8 33 8 = 49
Sasik 7 16 8 = 31
Sperry 9 24 10 = 43


Scores

R3ptile 3 1 0 = 4
AvK 1 1 0 = 2
Skull 1 1 0 = 2

Maverick 0 0 1 = 1
Sasik 0 1 2 = 3
Sperry 0 4 2 = 6


Flagcarrier kills

R3ptile 5 7 3 = 15
AvK 4 5 7 = 16
Skull 3 6 5 = 14

Maverick 2 7 7 = 16
Sasik 4 8 4 = 16
Sperry 3 6 2 = 11

KEY KILLS

R3ptile 1 2 0 = 3
AvK 2 1 0 = 3
Skull 2 0 0 = 2

Maverick 0 2 3 = 5
Sasik 0 1 2 = 3
Sperry 0 2 0 = 2

[R3ptile]

on a side note, all match logs should be directed to mave so he can make stats and also "top roasters" and "top scorers" lists (there'd be awards in the end of the tourney too)

[cooba]

I think it's a good idea to make scoring rules <i>before</i> the tourney starts.

[Grytolle]

Wohoo! Mav owned the game<33333

[R3ptile]

huh? you just say it because he's in your clan.. but i did :p

[Grytolle]

From what it seems you had a lot of kills that didn't lead to a score, isn't that kind of useless? :(

[Sasik]

Honestly saying, imho, Sperry was the player of the match (MVP =D).
However, I don't think it changes anything. =p

[[GpW]Urbs]

dang, looks like team slovenia will have 2 forfeit..

[R3ptile]

Honestly saying, imho, Sperry was the player of the match (MVP =D).
However, I don't think it changes anything. =p
well she did well in Semi

[Raven aka StL]

dude why don't you use your brain? it does matter a lot, you should give teams time to prepare themselves and get into the tourney, especially for a rusty team like us.
I think it does, and no.

And I'm afraid I already started making such a list, + mave ain't a tournament official, so you can disregard that, thanks.
Don't do stuff related to this tournament behind my back, please thanks.

[Vegito]

The Netherlands Vs. Italy.

Well, it would have been a lot more closer if it was soccer but..

Round 1: Medieval Skyscrapers (NLs choice). Host: Sasik.
5-0 to the Netherlands. It really was a fast game, heh. No real problems.

Round 2: Jungle's Edge (Ita's choice). Host: Sasik.
5-0 to the Netherlands. Same comment ;P

[Quickz]

Team Netherlands: DarkSonic, Quickz and Vegito
Team Italy: Blazer, Enrico and Riccardo.

Well, it was fast indeed, didn't lag too much, gg Italy.

[R3ptile]

I think it does, and no.

And I'm afraid I already started making such a list, + mave ain't a tournament official, so you can disregard that, thanks.
Don't do stuff related to this tournament behind my back, please thanks.
we do nothing behind your back because you are aware of it.

btw you should also thank us for maintaining an irc channel (you can't even use irc) with lots of people in it.

edit: as an offical i've just got a permission to generate stats and stuff, so nvm.

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

the italians ;)

[Raven aka StL]

Should I make a new thread for round 2, btw?

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

yes today is monday 2nd round

[Stijn]

Should I make a new thread for round 2, btw?

Please do not open seperate threads for every round, but use this thread for discussing the results of all rounds instead.
<qed>

[Raven aka StL]

'aight.

Round 2


Netherlands - Israel (21st Feb, 19.00 GMT)

Poland - Germany (21st Feb, 18.00 GMT)

Romania - Finland (21st Feb, 19.00 GMT)

Slovenia - Belgium (21st Feb, 17.00 GMT)

Sweden - Australia (22nd Feb, 13.00 GMT)

United Kingdom - Italy (22nd Feb, 16.00 GMT)


Again, if those times don't work out, or people don't show up, then postpone.
But do your best to play these games at the given times or soon after.

Also, if you can find a better time that would be before the appointed time, then feel free to play it then.

Any host both teams agree on will do.

Remember to have the hosts log the matches!!

Have fun.

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

ok poles. We wish you much fun to destroy Germany ;(

[Sasik]

Round 2


Netherlands - Israel (21st Feb, 19.00 GMT)

Poland - Germany (21st Feb, 18.00 GMT)

Romania - Finland (21st Feb, 19.00 GMT)

Slovenia - Belgium (21st Feb, 17.00 GMT)

Sweden - Australia (22nd Feb, 13.00 GMT)

United Kingdom - Italy (22nd Feb, 16.00 GMT)


Again, if those times don't work out, or people don't show up, then postpone.
But do your best to play these games at the given times or soon after.

It would be better to play ONE MATCH PER WEEK (in the weekend, saturday/sunday). Considering as there were only two matches played this tournament will be full of forfeits. You should tell people about their matches at least 5 days before the games. Think about it.

However, we'll be there to pwn Germans =D

[[GpW]Urbs]

hmm ya, one match per week would be way better, so most teams would arrange the game during the week and play during the weekend.

At least, thats what I think...

[Chiyu]

Hmm, you should have announced the schedule earlier than one day before the matches had to be played. I was away for the weekend but I would have arranged something if I had known..

[[GpW]Urbs]

yes well, ditto here chiyu, but u won anyway and we would have lost anyway so no harm done yet...

[Raven aka StL]

I've already said countless times that trying to have a tight schedule didn't work out and ended up being a mistake.
It won't be happening again...
After this round (2), there will be one game / week unless all games are finished before that.

[R3ptile]

2 matches per week are better, otherwise we'd have to forfeit at some stage
keep in mind at least 6 teams won't even make it to their matches.

[Sasik]

I've already said countless times that trying to have a tight schedule didn't work out and ended up being a mistake.

Rather saying about the shedule one day before the games were said to be played was big mistake from your side. ;;

[Raven aka StL]

Exactly. -_-

[Sasik]

Btw. why did you delete the shedule from the site? It was kinda useful to know when we face whom.

[Anakin[CC]]

I dont know either :S i thought it was a bad idea too, but i have to do as he says so.

[Vegito]

Ur lucky I can make it to that time Wednesday :|
This will be problematic. Espescially for countries like Australia if u continue scheduling this way :[
Edit: You scheduled 2 matches at the same time. I myself will play in 1 of the matches. lol hosts? ;p
And maybe set a host for each match? :o

[Raven aka StL]

@ Sasik and Elmer: I want to keep it a surprise till the announcement. ;/

@ Veg: I added the time for Australias' match keeping in mind the time difference, if it's still too big then I guess it's hard for them to participate...
And I've asked a few dozen good hosts (kinda all of them) and over 85% have politely declined...
Oh, and it's great if you can make it to your match. ;p

@ (A dozen people): This tournament doesn't follow all tournament standards, so don't expect everything to be like you've seen it before.

[NovaStar]

Whoa, I absolutely didn't know about those times until Monday ;-;
I'm not too sure Australia VS Sweden will be played but we'll see how things go.

[Grytolle]

Noone appreciates you keeping the schedule a secret, Wallace.

[PurpleJazz]

My Predictions:

Netherlands - Israel = Netherlands

Poland - Germany - Poland

Romania - Finland = Finland

Slovenia - Belgium = Belgium

Sweden - Australia = Sweden

United Kingdom - Italy = United Kingdom

[Sucer]

What about the games of round 1 that were not played? Can they still be played?

[[GpW]Urbs]

Uhm guys, just to make this official, so we won't lose by not showing up again.
I've tried to contact team belgium about postponing the match till later this week, alas up till now i have yet to get an answer from them.
But since team slovenia means to show up this time, I would just like to officially state that one member(me) cannot make it at the time designated for the match to begin. I can however start the match at 17 cet or even 16:30 cet.

So there, you can't cancel us, if we don't show up at 3pm cet:). But we can come 2 hours later.
And yes, it is possible i've mixed up the time, as I'm not sure completely how this timezone thing works. but i think i haven't botched the whole thing up this time.

[R3ptile]

Netherlands - Israel = Netherlands
?
(-) YOU

[Raven aka StL]

@ Gry: That's my policy, I can't be bothered to change it. :p
I will tell about matches 3-6 days before their designated play time. That'll be enough for all, I assume.

@ Sucer: yes, they can.

@ Urbs: As I said, you may postpone matches, or play them earlier, if you can and want.

[DarkSonic]

Hahaha R3p, I expected that reaction. We'll see who wins ;p

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

German - Poland

Comment_: Great game.... -_-

[Vegito]

Heh, Germany Vs. Poland was 5-0 in both rounds. I know DS hosted. I know Semi has been played, I don't know what level was played in the other round.

Anyways..
The Netherlands Vs. Israel:
Round 1. BBlair (Israels choice.) Host: Sasik. Score: 5-1 to NL.
Line up: DarkSonic, Vegito, Chiyu Vs. SkulL, AvK, R3p.

Hmz.. This went a lot easier than each of us thought. The Netherlands really had a perfect timing. They didn't really stand a chance probably. They did have the upper hand for a while at the start though.

Round 2: Jungle's Edge. (The Netherlands' choice.) Host: Sasik. Score: 5-0 to NL.
Line up: DarkSonic, Chiyu, Vegito Vs. AvK, SkulL, R3p.

This went even faster than the BBlair round. We had the upper hand the entire game, and never really got into trouble. Our timing was yet again really perfect. Both games were nice. Friendly. Thanks for playing, Israel :)

[Sasik]

Well, so I'll write some informations about http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif Poland vs http://images.clanbase.com/de.gif Germany...

1st Round:
Map: Bloodbunny's Lair (GER's choice)
Host: http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif DarkSonic
http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif Poland: Maverick, Sasik, Sperry (red)
http://images.clanbase.com/de.gif Germany: Hatebreed, BadBunny, Sfazist (blue)
Score: http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL vs http://images.clanbase.com/de.gif GER 5-0
Well, kinda fast game. We were in a hurry. Weird thing for me is that I had to complete Germany's team to get the game played (I found BadBunny;P)...
GG.

2nd Round:
Map: Happy Semiconductor CTF (POL's choice)
Host: http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif DarkSonic
http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif Poland: Maverick, Sasik, Sperry (red)
http://images.clanbase.com/de.gif Germany: Hatebreed, Fabian, Sfazist (blue)
Score: http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL vs http://images.clanbase.com/de.gif GER 5-0
Again, won without any problems. gg.


Overall: http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL vs http://images.clanbase.com/de.gif GER 2-0 (10-0)

We were waiting over one hour for Yum, but he didn't come =(
However, good luck in the future, Germans. =D

[R3ptile]

well as veg said we had the upper hand untill they started sneaking to their base in perfect timings, something we didn't see coming and weren't really used to, but don't worry next time we'll come more prepared i guess.

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

=((((((

Know all know da germans are not the best =/
We have to train 3vs3's. I think I was the only one who have ever played in a 3vs3

[Vegito]

The Dutchies can't play till monday for sure. (Reason: 4 out of 5 players are GONE BBQ)

[Raven aka StL]

That's ok, since you've finished 2/2 games and the third games are to be announced next monday.

[[GpW]Urbs]

Uhm any belgians here, i'd like to arrange a match(note: this is the 2nd time im doing it)?

[Anakin[CC]]

I'm going to play against Germany


The Dutchies can't play till monday for sure. (Reason: 4 out of 5 players are GONE BBQ)


Idd i will be avaible from monday, the 3rd shedule round is now online at the tournament site,


www.craccoclan.com/nt2007

[Raven aka StL]

What the bloody hell are you doing Ani?! :|

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

Yes SUP????

[GoldRabbit]

pls make another date for our match vs finland,cause our team didnt know about this schedules.And note:my id,virusGF,has changed to GFSootDrag,so change in the tournament site,pls thx

[Sasik]

pls make another date for our match vs finland
You are supposed to set the dates for your matches by talking with other teams. :rolleyes:

[Raven aka StL]

Exactly.

[snzspeed]

slovenia vs finland is done

took some time though

[DarkSonic]

FIN vs SLO

The first round was in BBLair. It took some time for Slovenia to finally get three players, but they managed to get three after lots of crashes and timeouts. Finland easily won this round with 5-0.

The second round was in Semi. This didn't take as much time as the first round to start, but the actual round was longer than the BBLair round. Slovenia scored 1 point here thanks to ZippeR. They were much better here than in BBLair, but Finland still won 5-1.

[[GpW]Urbs]

well ok, so they won:)
Could have been 10-2 though.. shame:)

[Maximus]

'aight.

Round 2


Netherlands - Israel (21st Feb, 19.00 GMT)

Poland - Germany (21st Feb, 18.00 GMT)

Romania - Finland (21st Feb, 19.00 GMT)

Slovenia - Belgium (21st Feb, 17.00 GMT)

Sweden - Australia (22nd Feb, 13.00 GMT)

United Kingdom - Italy (22nd Feb, 16.00 GMT)


Again, if those times don't work out, or people don't show up, then postpone.
But do your best to play these games at the given times or soon after.

Also, if you can find a better time that would be before the appointed time, then feel free to play it then.

Any host both teams agree on will do.

Remember to have the hosts log the matches!!

Have fun.

good lock to all

[Grytolle]

++locks

[Raven aka StL]

Round 3

Australia - Slovenia (2nd Mar, 12.00 GMT)

Belgium - Romania (2nd Mar, 17.00 GMT)

Finland - Poland (2nd Mar, 18.00 GMT)

Germany - Netherlands (3rd Mar, 17.00 GMT)

Israel - Italy (3rd Mar, 18.00 GMT)

Sweden - United Kingdom (4th Mar, 18.00 GMT)


If a time is not ok, postpone, but do try to play these games asap.
Hosts must log the matches.
Talk to the opposing team about when to play.

Gl hf.

[Sucer]

Emperor do you schedule all the FIN matches on purpose on times when you know I'm busy?

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to play againts Poland, but nevertheless I can't make it on Friday evening. Saturday the same time and it would be fine for me.

[maverick]

Who said we are going to play on Saturday? : )

[Raven aka StL]

Emperor do you schedule all the FIN matches on purpose on times when you know I'm busy?

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to play againts Poland, but nevertheless I can't make it on Friday evening. Saturday the same time and it would be fine for me.

I have no idea when you or any other player is busy, that's why you gotta tell it, so we can find suitable times for the matches.

[Sucer]

Maverick I made a suggestion that satudray would be fine for me. OK maybe Thursday 18.00 GMT next week?

[maverick]

Certainly not. We'd like to play it on Saturday next week.Time doesn't matter at the moment, let's discuss it later over MSN :)

[Raven aka StL]

I'm afraid the games are to be played this week, since round 4 starts next week.
Postponing matches till next week needs absurdly good reasons.
FIN - SLO for instance, was postponed because they couldn't get a three player team together earlier and were at the verge of forfeiting.

[Vegito]

...stop Scheduling Games At Times When Everyone Has Dinner >|

[R3ptile]

this tourney is a mess i can't even figure what's going on

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

ARGH! Wallace! You do this in intention!!
Versus Netherland we have no chance, too ;/

Ok but than the hardest are over ;P

[Raven aka StL]

@ Rep: Oh well, I never said I was too experienced about organizing tournaments...

@ Hatebreed: How many times do I have to tell you that the order of the league stage games was chosen entirely by random.

You should play the announced games, (meaning all of them) as soon as possible. The given times are merely suggestions, so if you talk to the teams you're gonna face, you may choose to play at another time. A game may be played at any time when both teams (especially their captains) agree to play.

In the end of the 11th round, I will give some time for teams to play their remaining games.
I will likely also suggest times for those games, contact the teams etc etc.
When the given additional time is up... teams that couldn't play at all (whatever the reason) will give forfeit wins as for the rest of the games, people won't get points.
That's when the playoff round starts and the four (4) teams that have the least points will be eliminated.

More on that will come later...

Present:

Play the announced games of your country as soon as possible.
And I'll say once more that the given times are mere suggestions.

[maverick]

Postponing matches till next week needs absurdly good reasons.


I don't have to justify myself. I just can't play , neither Sasik can and Sperry refuses to play without us on the team so see you in the next week. Bye.

[Raven aka StL]

Ok. That's a good enough reason.
I thought you merely wanted to play next week, although you could have played this week.
Regards.

Finland - Poland postponed till... next week...

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

Hey Netherlands!

Because Saturday is a stupid time, we will play the match at sunday.
From German, noone has time today. see ya:r

[Vegito]

..Sunday what time?

[Anakin[CC]]

(-)(-)(-)

coudnt you tell that earlier ? :S oh well sunday is no problem, but you cold, especially when postponing the match, ATLEASt say or suggest a time....

[Grytolle]

Okay, so give a forfeit win.

[Chiyu]

Hatebreed forfeited, as Germany wasn't able to get a team on Sunday either.

[ShadowGPW]

I like the idea and i like how its going now. :D

however, i think you should limit the player ammount for Clan members. eg, max 2 players from 1 clan per match.

It's unfair when you field a full clan lineup against a team that hardly plays with each other.

[Grytolle]

However that still doesn't matter, as all active jj2 players play together anyway. Such a rule would just make it even harder for teams to get games played (for example I don't have any non C<!-- -->C swedish options)

[Raven aka StL]

I have to agree with Gry on this one.

Thanks a lot for (advertising) the tournament
on ECReality, or whatever that was, Shadow. :)

[Grytolle]

Btw, I saw nothing of UK on the day we were supposed to play

[Anakin[CC]]

I can understand shadow's point, but this was to be expected and this should have been discussed before the tournament ( at the poll thread )

And gry has a good point aswell it would be even harder to let matches get played if no clan teams would be allowed, so they are.


And i want to do something against the unplayed duels, just like Gry, i didnt see anything either of GER team....


Whenever a country is ready to play at an agreed time, confirmed by a tourney official, and the official can confirm that 1 country was there and 1 was not, then that 1 country, HAS the right to claim a 2-0 forfeit win ( 2x 5-0 ) however you dont HAVE to. However i personally think we should give the country which did not show up a second chanche, Germany has been given 3 chanches so fair, we will clain the win after their next failure but if Gry's story is true, then SWE can claim a win aswell.

If a country does not agree on a certain time or date, then LET IT KNOW !!! (-)(-)(-) dont just dont show up but SAY SO, atleast 1 HOUR before the game starts and not 30 minutes after the match !!!!

[Sasik]

I think that the website of this tournament should contain more USEFUL information. Like the dates and time when matches should be played, contacts (e-mails/msn/etc.) to the members from each country or at least teamleaders (such people should be chosen). All annoucments should be posted at the site not only at JCF threads, which are always spammed. Also, maybe someone else could also take care of the site? You are too slowly with posting updates or you don't post them at all, Ani.
I'm just giving ideas how to make this tournament better working, so don't take this as an offence, rather like an advice. ;P

Btw. Add the result of Poland vs Germany (2-0) already >( We played it a week ago or so.

[Raven aka StL]

Sasik, quit being so "useful". ;)
And what Ani said about forfeit wins
has been that way for weeks now. :P
However, not 5-0, just "win" and
the points for winning a match.

[Grytolle]

Why have you started to type :P
like Vegito? ;)

[Chiyu]

Updating the website should be the first priority.

[Raven aka StL]

That is the job Anakin accepted and I'd say he's updating it enough.
Just keep telling full match details after playing.

@ Gry: No.

[Sasik]

Sasik, quit being so "useful". ;)

OK!!
Keep up the good work Emp! You are the best supervisor ever! I haven't seen a better organised tournament than this one! And it certainly isn't going to fail coz of ur mistakes. You are the best and you know everything better i must admit that, yes.
Cya.

[Raven aka StL]

You're so fragile. :|

[Grytolle]

You're so questionably useful :|

[maverick]

I have talked with Finnish players and we agreed about playing on Saturday at 17 GMT , so 18 Polish time and 19 Finnish time.
I'd appreciate if DarkSonic was online around that time so he could host for us

[Vegito]

Still round 3? Oh well.

[maverick]

Team Finalnd didn't turn up at the time.
Poland wins by default then.

[Grytolle]

Hope they had fun partying

[snzspeed]

life > jj2

[Grytolle]

Keeping promises > drunk retard

[snzspeed]

Keeping promises > drunk retard

is there something bad with me having a life?

besides, im not a drunk retard

[Superjazz]

I wouldn't party for a forfeit loss though.

[snzspeed]

i prefer to have fun with friends over jj2

sorry for having an opinion like that. :)

[Vegito]

Bleh.
"Having a life" sounds so .. not good to say.
I'd rather shut my mouth and say I wasn't there for whatever reason.
"I got a life" is not a reason =P

[Stijn]

"Having a life" (remind me to add that to the censor someday) does not necessarily rule out keeping appointments...

[snzspeed]

ok, i wasn't there because i wanted to go out with my friends instead of playing rabbit game.

happy?

[Stijn]

Ah, so it would've been different if this was a game with gung-ho strongmen instead of rabbits?

[snzspeed]

Ah, so it would've been different if this was a game with gung-ho strongmen instead of rabbits?

well, it doesnt matter, friends > games

whats so bad thing in that opinion? i don't understand. im not even showing off, just saying that i couldnt get to that game, because i preferred going out with friends. :|

[maverick]

The point is that you agreed on playing at that time but didn't show up.

[snzspeed]

OK, IM SORRY FOR NOT SHOWING UP GUYS. IM SORRY, SORRY, SORRY!!!

no, really, i apologise for not showing up.

but seriously, life > jj2. i prefer going out with friends instead of playing games, gg, and i won't change my mind. go ahead, insult me, i don't care.

[Stijn]

Oh, I prefer doing other things (which includes going out) over JJ2 too. But as a consequence I don't promise others to show up at a certain time.

[Sucer]

I prefer jj2 over life so I have no problems. I of course do my duties and that's why I can't play jj2 that much anymore couse stupid school is messing up my schedule.

[Sasik]

Well, personally still I'd like to play against Finland. It could be good game, though.

And btw. I'm also very busy with other things than jj2, but if I say that I'll play at certain time, I'm simply there. That's how this should have worked.

[Grytolle]

Exactly ^__^

[Raven aka StL]

People seem to forget that matches can be postponed...

Although, if my team agrees on a forfeit win then so be it.
Otherwise we may try to play the match at least one more time.
<s>...after cutting someone's rations for not playing it earlier.</s> :D

[snzspeed]

i would also like to play it.. forfeit wins are stupid. :P

[maverick]

Yea, I would like to play it too :)

[Vegito]

Go for it.

[Anakin[CC]]

i agree aswell we could already have claimed a easy 2-0 win over Germany but i just want to play, i dont feel anything for a forfeit win

I'l be expecting from the tournament officials to gather as much contact info as posable, users/players themselves could leave some at the guestbook, e-mail it to me, or leave it here atleast

[Raven aka StL]

As if you'd be actual winners with a forfeit win, it's as cheap as how France got to the World Cup final of football last year...

Therefore you should all try your best, always, to play all games and accept forfeit wins only if there's absolutely no other course of action left.

Let's talk about a good date for the match on msn later. :p

[Sasik]

What with the matchup for 4th round?
Btw. Changing the name of this thread would be a good idea.

[Raven aka StL]

Round 4 = delayed, sorry.
It will be posted soon enough.

And I agree about the thread name.

[maverick]

This tourney is dead .

GG no re & R.I.P

[Sasik]

Well, I wouldn't call it dead, but rather inactive.
However, I can't understand why teams like UK or Belgium do nothing to play their matches while they really could play them :rolleyes: And inactivity of few teams besides of not too good organisation kills this tournament. :(

[Raven aka StL]

If you've got nothing to say but whine then don't say anything, thanks.
I'm busy with a lot of unexpected matters, which is why this tourney's been a bit on the quiet side...
Anyways, round 4 will be announced tomorrow or monday.

Just so you know, teams that haven't had effort organising their matches, not to mention play them at all, will be eliminated after the eventual round 11.

[maverick]

It's not whining. We only state the facts.

[Raven aka StL]

That's what you think.
Now cease spamming, thanks.

[Stijn]

You don't seem to be doing anything to prove him wrong :P

[Raven aka StL]

Don't be obnoxious on purpose.

I've got other things besides this tournament to take care of, you know...

[Sucer]

Then you would have been a clever guy if you would have asked for some assistance to organize this tourney. It's not like tourneys work if the admin is "lazy"

[Grytolle]

I've got other things besides this tournament to take care of, you know...That's no excuse not to make a good job :( Also, how much things can you possibly have to take care of? I'm getting curious.

[Raven aka StL]

I apologise for the delay...

Round 4


Italy - Germany (22nd Mar, 16.00 GMT)

Netherlands - Finland (23rd Mar, 18.00 GMT)

Poland - Belgium (23rd Mar, 17.00 GMT)

Romania - Australia (24th Mar, 11.00 GMT)

Slovenia - Sweden (24th Mar, 17.00 GMT)

United Kingdom - Israel (24th Mar, 17.00 GMT)

- The above dates are suggestions, if they're not ok, or you prefer another time, then you may (of course) play them at a different time and/or date.

- Remember that teams with no games played at the end of round 11 will be eliminated on short notice. Play all the games you can as soon as possible.

- Each match must be logged with "Carrotade"
(http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=4501)
and the logs sent to me. (Emperor_4zz@hotmail.com).

Thank you for participating and hafe fun.

[maverick]

Thank you for participating and hafe fun.

Of course we will hafe fun.

[Raven aka StL]

FIN - NED was postponed till 1st Apr, 17.20 GMT because the old time wasn't acceptable indefinately.
It may be postponed again by Team Netherlands if they so desire, otherwise...
It will be played then so have fun with your life. O+

EDIT: Time sucked and was changed... (27th Mar, 14.20 GMT -> 1st Apr, 17.20 GMT)

[Vegito]

And that time sux as well because most of the Dutchies have dinner then ;)

[Raven aka StL]

I see...
Saturday'd be better either way, so...

31st of March and...
What time'd be good?

[Sasik]

Well, so we finally played http://images.clanbase.com/fi.gif Finland vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif Poland

Teams:
http://images.clanbase.com/fi.gif Finland: Emperor, SJ, Sucer
http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif Poland: Maverick, Sasik, Sperry

1st Round:
Map: Bloodbunny's Lair (FIN’s choice)
Host: http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif CelL
Score: http://images.clanbase.com/fi.gif FIN vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL 2-5
I had some troubles with my pc, which kept crashing + also emp kept ctoing so it took a lot of time to finally start the game. We won without many problems, except for the beginning when Finland scored for 1-0 and I thought that this will end like in our match against Israel, but we somehow managed to win. Also I had to play in window mode and I’m not used to it : P

2nd Round:
Map: Diamondus Warzone (POL’s choice)
Host: http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif CelL
Score: http://images.clanbase.com/fi.gif FIN vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL 5-2
I don’t know what has happened but we lost in kinda dumb way. Maybe because of my mistakes (too aggressive style ;P). But y’know that show must go on...so it was 7-7 after 2 rounds.

3rd Round:
Map: Medieval Skyscrapers
Host: http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif CelL
Score: http://images.clanbase.com/fi.gif FIN vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL 4-5
Well, we couldn’t agree on the tie-breaker level, so we played the most symmetrical one – MS. We were winning 4-0 and then Mav kept shouting “GO RTS, GO RTS” – coz he had to go already (the whole game took almost 2 hours ;O). So we were RTS almost all the time and lost 4 points ;P However, we (or better to say – Sperry) managed to score the last one and won the whole game ;P

Overall: http://images.clanbase.com/fi.gif FIN vs http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif POL 1-2 (11-12)
Thanks to Cell for hosting, the games were exciting and good ones though.

[Grytolle]

gg <!-- lol -->

[Stijn]

Interesting how both teams lost on the level they chose themselves :P

[Raven aka StL]

It happens.
They won the 3rd round on my airhit though. ;P
GG, well played.

[Sucer]

POL vs. FIN (imo)

First round BBLAIR:

I wasn't sure about this team as I very rarely do well with Emp in 3vs3's all tough he is much better than me. I scored a 1-0 lead to us thanks to SJ but then Sasik left and joined the game so many times that our team completely lost focus. Maverick was nearly always at blue base and I was nearly always at red base so I didn't see him much.
Emperor didn't go RTS and I died when SJ or EMp wasn't R. They had good timing and we just lost.

Second round DW

I suck in DW and I thought so does Emp but he again proved me wrong. Emperor played very well and camped with the flag a lot. We played with timed scores on this level (sort of) and it worked. I think I did nothing at all exept roast Maverick once, but SJ and Emp had great cooperation and so we won 5-2.

Third round MS

Our team sucked and they got a 4-0. Then we started to lame and never go RTS just camp and POL became a bit bored and tried to play is risky like we did in the beginning and we fastly got the game to 4-4. Then I was so excited that I tried to try a trick out and left the red base (even tough our flagcarrier had 1) to kill Sperry. I went down the other route and Sperry went up the other and then SJ died. Emp was going R but he got shot by a seek and Sperry made it just a second before Emp or something like that.

I think our team has some potential, but we need to work on our strategy and me and Emperor have to work on our individual skill.

[maverick]

BBlair

I expected it to be murch harder. Although they scored 1st point very quickly, we managed to make a nice comeback.

DW

I don't know what actually happened here that we lost 2-5. I think we had the advantage throughout the round but we weren't RTS too often, thus many of flagcarrier kills were useless.

MS

My mates can only blame me for losing 4 point is a row. I was in hurry so I really wanted to finish it quickly so I didn't care about being R , just hunted. The outcome was that they almost won but ,as always, our great Julita managed to score the last point.

Before the game started, I had known that this game might be very tough. When we won the first round, I lost my concetration because either we did great or they sucked. In the 2nd round everything went bad though in the 3rd round the game was in our control and eventually we won 12-11.

GG.

[Grytolle]

go poland

[Sucer]

Gry try to make your Svensk team play at least one game:O

[Grytolle]

Other nations don't seem too interested

[Sucer]

Idd, that should be fixed somehow.

[HàTéBrèéD[MF]]

German is finally idle for this Tournament. Sorry @ all...
Because noone is active, has time, is good from my country.

[Raven aka StL]

Due to lack of interest and activity in the participants...
This tournament is iced.

(Not dead, iced.)

Thank you.

[Grytolle]

lol noone can survive being frozen when the freezer isnt skilledddd

[Sasik]

Well, maybe try to start it once again in 2 months or just in summer... People might have more time to play then.

[Sucer]

Yep. This was quite interesting tourney to begin with, but it turned out suprisingly boring.

[Chiyu]

Agreed :S

[Anakin[CC]]

it was idd a huge dissapointment...... mainly because off lack off activity

[Grytolle]

Horrible arranging

< jjw2c 3

[zari]

ba9 ba9
ját ez a jazz nagyon lokél a zsoké játék ám:-)

[zari]

ba9

[zari]

lokél a zsoké

[Vegito]

I totally understand you

[Sucer]

ba9 ba9
ját ez a jazz nagyon lokél a zsoké játék ám:-)

Well I wouldn't put it that way, but you have an idea there.

[Erik]

Well I wouldn't put it that way, but you have an idea there.

Cant say I agree with him really

[NovaStar]

I've been trying to get the people in the Aussie team on more, but it's proving very very difficult. I've probably had a good snap at a few people because of it unfortunately, because they commited to it and now they're off playing other things and don't seem to want to hear about it. I know the tourney's frozen but I'll try to get some matches played for us within the next two/three weeks.

[Raven aka StL]

No, the tourney is frozen, likely you could call it dead.
Forget about it. :|

[Sucer]

No, the tourney is frozen, likely you could call it dead.
Forget about it. :|

Could we play a gosu final between two teams that are interested? I can sign FIN to be interested right now:)

[Raven aka StL]

No, that'd be extremely lame.