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Wild Angel
Jan 15, 2003, 01:10 AM
Bleh, bored... -.-;;;;; anyways... chose..

`Wildie

(edit- sorry, meant to throw 'other' in there.)

MoonBlazE
Jan 15, 2003, 01:50 AM
Eh Wildie, furry is the thing you draw, not a style. :P

Captain Spam
Jan 15, 2003, 02:43 AM
Yeah, 'furry' is a subject, not a style. You can easily spot differences between a cartoonishly-drawn anthropomorphic, a realistically-drawn one, etc...

As for me, I prefer cartoonish. Specifically, unique styles that either borrow from very few sources and make something new up, or borrow from many sources and make something new out of them. I like seeing something new when I see a new artist, not copying the same old stuff everyone else does. :-)

By the by, I edited the poll for ya, Wild.

Unciaa
Jan 15, 2003, 04:31 AM
Hm, maybe that should be a multiple choice poll? *g*

I'd say "other" + "furry". What does angular fall under? I love styles done with quick strokes and sharp edges, pure solic colours,... My favorite style is 'stylish'. :p

VelKa
Jan 15, 2003, 07:00 AM
I IS DRAEWD STUP LOGS ADN STUPED LOZR BAKGRUNDS AHAHAHHAROLOLOLOLROFLROFL!!!!!!!!111111111 PLZ DONT SHOOT ME K?????????//// PLZ??? =O!!!!!!!!!1111111

Other. Although....Because I don't draw Furry, Anime, Cartoon, Humans/Realistic etc., people have a tendency to overlook my artwork/laugh at me. (although PiZZie doesn't care, seeing that my featured subjects are LOGS in TEH FOREST.) ;-P

Tik
Jan 15, 2003, 07:14 AM
ABSTRACT PLZ

There is nothing better drawn than nothing at all.

Batty Buddy
Jan 15, 2003, 07:25 AM
Que Passa!!!!

Hmm... Rather hard choice... I think I mostly like cartoonish art, but that can include SOME anime (Particularly the kind that I grew up loving, like Maya the Bee, and The Noozels.), and as for furry's, a majority of the stuff I like DOES contain them, but they don't have to be there for me to like them(Ex. I've been a Popeye fan for years- the closest thing to a furry there is Eugine the Jeep, and he doesn't count because he's a jeep.)
And as for realistic stuff, you all know I love Howard the Duck, and that comic is Marvel- so you know it's got the Marvel style of realism(Admittingly, Howards eyes are far too big for his head, but its acceptable.)
And as for "Other" I've grown up surrounded by the art works of Jacob Lawrence due to my grandmother being a freind of his. http://www.africanpubs.com/Apps/bios/0850LawrenceJacob.asp
Therefore, abstract art is one of the best in my opinion.
I guess I'll have to go with Cartoony since that's the kind of stuff I mostly associate with myself, but I agree that this should be multichoice.

"See her flying through the air,
Buzzing here and buzzing there,
Saying 'Catch me if you dare',
Busy buzzing everywhere..."
-Maya the bee theme song.

Fawriel
Jan 15, 2003, 07:48 AM
Anime + Furry,that's my style and UBER-CEWT!^-^
(I like cute!;))

Anime is simply the best style to express emotions on persons and to make it look CUTE! XB Or ugly,depends!;)

And furry cos that's what I draw <s>and I dislike humans,most of'm</s>...^_^;

Skulg
Jan 15, 2003, 10:42 AM
Bah I despise Anime.

I like the cartoonish furry style. :)

Cobra
Jan 15, 2003, 11:10 AM
Realistic.

Like Michalangelo

Wild Angel
Jan 15, 2003, 11:21 AM
*points to the question on the poll*

I have an excuse- I put down the topic name then I found it didn't apply to what I was doing. Hmph.

*stalks off coldly and heartlessly*

not in the best mood, `wildie

Nemesis
Jan 15, 2003, 04:36 PM
Realistic.

Too many people draw Anime and Furry. Sure, lots of people do realistic stuff aswell, but realistic tends to be more varied.

I do like Furry and Anime, but every single drawing Furry or Anime (or both) looks the same to me.

Cartoons are the best for expressing emotion, and can look cute, Picollo. :p

Personally, I like quick, yet long strokes. Get a huge peice of paper and draw with my arm, not my wrist. Best for life-drawing and all that. The realistic stuff. And realistic is the most meaningful... It doesn't necessarily have to be perfect. It can mean something. And be easy to look at.

Kaz
Jan 15, 2003, 06:59 PM
Cartoonish. Reality frightens me and someday I will destroy it XD.

And Velk, nobody laughs at your artwork, ;p.

I agree, Furry is a thing you draw, not a style. Shame I already voted for that ><.

Batty Buddy
Jan 15, 2003, 09:53 PM
Que Passa!!!!

Reality frightens me and someday I will destroy it XD.

We must join forces sometime...

Snowball
Jan 15, 2003, 10:11 PM
I voted for furry :P

4I Falcon
Jan 16, 2003, 04:05 AM
Same. There's just something about fur...

...

^_^

Fawriel
Jan 16, 2003, 06:07 AM
Yep,reality sucks!

*joins Batty and Kaz*

...oh,we still talking about art-styles?^^;

Captain Spam
Jan 16, 2003, 07:10 AM
Piccolo, we're talkin' life here. :-)

<small>(Well, okay, we're talking art, but art imitates life, so it's good enough)</small>

*Chicagal*
Jan 16, 2003, 11:31 AM
I enjoy both Furry and Anime. I try to use both in my art. For those who have seen any of my current stuff (which is not many), you could see what i mean. :)

sproedel
Jan 16, 2003, 12:00 PM
Go, cartoonish style, ya!!!

I like it. It´s cool. It´s not like this anime stuff, which I can't stand......these eyes are terrible!:D

So, cartoonish style would be my choice...is my choice.

Wild Angel
Jan 17, 2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by dersproedel
this anime stuff, which I can't stand......these eyes are terrible!:D

Depends on the artist......... *Sigh* Don't stereotype anime for DBZ *hurls* Kaori Yuki draws BEAUTIFUL eyes

`Wildie

Nemesis
Jan 17, 2003, 02:25 AM
Since when was furry art "realistic"? ;)

Kaz
Jan 17, 2003, 05:01 AM
Hmm... there is a certain anatomy you're suppoused to follow with it, and some people can make things look real ;p.

Quit voting for furry, it could go under any of the other votes!

Wild Angel
Jan 17, 2003, 10:18 AM
Gothic isn't just black dresses of silk and crimson walls and black hair. Goth is attitude. You know vampires are rated 'Gothic', but everyone knows that. Just because you draw a vampire doesn't mean you're a goth. It means you drew a vampire. I say alot of 'goths' are wanna-be's. Real goths listen to gothic metal, they find a beauty in death, not being they want to die, but they just find a wonderful beauty in it, crimson, black, and dark purple are 'primary' colours... But that's modern goth. I would go all oldschool, but it's pointless.

Stop getting the idea in your head that goth is black and white makeup like a domino and black clothing. Besides, labels suck and the term gothic originated from a German group, <i>I believe</i>.

<font size=1>(edit)----
Since I'm a smart alec--

goth
n.

1. A style of rock music that often evokes bleak, lugubrious imagery.
2. A performer or follower of this style of music.

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Goth·ic
adj.

1.
1. Of or relating to the Goths or their language.
2. Germanic; Teutonic.
2. Of or relating to the Middle Ages; medieval.
3.
1. Of or relating to an architectural style prevalent in western Europe from the 12th through the 15th century and characterized by pointed arches, rib vaulting, and a developing emphasis on verticality and the impression of height.
2. Of or relating to an architectural style derived from medieval Gothic.
4. Of or relating to painting, sculpture, or other art forms prevalent in northern Europe from the 12th through the 15th century.
5. often gothic Of or relating to a style of fiction that emphasizes the grotesque, mysterious, and desolate.
6. gothic Barbarous; crude.
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Goth
n.

A member of a Germanic people who invaded the Roman Empire in the early centuries of the Christian era.
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Now, if you don't know what lugubrious means, go look it up. It's not perverted, I'll say that and leave the rest to your own minds.

----</font>

Now, question me, and since my mood is rather raw... no comment.

`Wildie

Cobra
Jan 17, 2003, 10:22 AM
Goths don't have to listen to "gawthik metal" to be goth. A true goth could listen to Britney Spears and still be a goth.

Fawriel
Jan 17, 2003, 10:24 AM
GO WILDIE!:D

Wild Angel
Jan 17, 2003, 10:55 AM
You do have a point there, Cobra. As my very close friend says, "True, true. It's all in the attitude, the rest is extraneous. You could wear all pink, listen to disco and still be gothic, so long as you had the attitude, it's just that most that have the attitude like black, like metal, as it fits their mood/personality."

I was speaking of modern gothic 'standards' should I say?

`Wildie

MoonBlazE
Jan 17, 2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Nemesis
Since when was furry art "realistic"? ;) I saw some pretty realistic 3d furry artworks on VCL, don't remember which account thought.

Nemesis
Jan 17, 2003, 01:54 PM
I know nothing about goths, except that most goths are try-hards who think it's new and "different".

It's just another way to be "cool" in my eyes.

Batty Buddy
Jan 17, 2003, 09:44 PM
Que Passa!!!!

Too bad there isn't anything called "Murphy" art...
... Hmm, Maybe I'll be a trend-setter.

Everyone: Go out and draw "Murphy" art in which the worst stuff imaginable happens to normal people. If you don't, you will be uncool and nobody will like you!

/\:D/\

Fawriel
Jan 18, 2003, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by Batty Buddy
Que Passa!!!!

Too bad there isn't anything called "Murphy" art...
... Hmm, Maybe I'll be a trend-setter.

Everyone: Go out and draw "Murphy" art in which the worst stuff imaginable happens to normal people. If you don't, you will be uncool and nobody will like you!

/\:D/\
Dun worry,boss,I was gonna do that in my story anyways(since it shows my own life! :p)

SoulFirE
Jan 18, 2003, 07:38 AM
Trend-category's-cool-hype...
just a few words, ain't gonna say more about it.

But we're talking about art here! I looove realism, especially surrealism thats drawn realistic, like Dali or some things of Giger and Micheal Whelan.

VelKa
Jan 18, 2003, 09:17 AM
I SHALL HEREBY TAKE THE ROAD OF MY ELEVENTH COUSIN NINE TIMES REMOVED:

&lt;insert witty unrelated comment here&gt;


THIS IS WHAT A **REAL** GOTH LOOKS LIKE, BY THE WAY:

<img src="http://www.oldhouseweb.net/stories/bitmaps/10263/gothic.jpg">


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I insist on drawing semi-realistic backgrounds, and other miscellaneous boring stuff. If there is an art-related talent I have, it is expressed solely in writing, not drawing. Leave the Gothic/furry/blah-rific stuff to other people, I say. ;-P

In other words, I shall ponder about writing my poem (<i>taedium vitae</i>), rather than drawing.

About goths? Hey, it seems like a lot of the girls here claim to be "goths", and they seem to get a lot of attention. I could be a conformist, and say "HEY IM A GTOH 2 CNA I JOEN UR CLUB SO I CANE GIT LOTS OF ATENTION.??????////". The purgatory with it; I'm a lightning gun-wielding nerd, not a goth. ;-P

FreeLance
Jan 19, 2003, 08:02 AM
I find live, breathing humans attractive.

Wild Angel
Jan 19, 2003, 11:25 AM
Death is an eternal sleep and it's peaceful. It's quiet, and we meet loved ones in it, right? It's very.. amazing... very incredible indeed. Imagine all the souls of the world together in one place at one time. Yeah, I don't need lectured on religion and wisdom. I'm agnostic-- I think it's impossible to know if there really is a god or not.

`Wildie

FreeLance
Jan 19, 2003, 11:34 AM
What if when we die, we're just in comas, and when we're burried we come alive and then we rot alive and stuff. But can't movie cos of everything they did to preserve us.


What the hell did all that have to do with ary, Wildie?

Wild Angel
Jan 19, 2003, 11:41 AM
I dunno... I just typed and it came. I type therefore I am. o.0;;

`wildie

Nemesis
Jan 19, 2003, 05:56 PM
"They stick you in a box and throw you in a hole, and don't let you out, not even on weekends."

There is no beauty in death, and there is less beauty in life.

Suicide is just a cowards way out of this world.

To live is to die.

Unciaa
Jan 22, 2003, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by Phoenix Wing FW
*wants to see someone draw/paint/whatever a furry that looks REAL.*

http://www.lionking.org/~sichi/stuff/starfinder_pic.jpg

Batty Buddy
Jan 22, 2003, 07:21 AM
Que Passa!!!!

I claim the page... (Leaves.)

Unciaa
Jan 22, 2003, 11:30 AM
Agreed. Brilliant piece. :)

MoonBlazE
Jan 22, 2003, 11:38 AM
That was completely such picies I was talking about. Where did you find this one? ;)

Nemesis
Jan 22, 2003, 02:40 PM
See, I don't consider that a "furry" drawing as such, but a realistic one.

Furry is Anthropomorphic. That picture isn't of animals that are similar to humans, like standing on their hind-legs and looking like humans.

Those are just Animals. :p

Very good picture, though. :)

Unciaa
Jan 22, 2003, 03:35 PM
Animals. With clothes. And anthropomorphic bodies. And human hands. What the heck are you on about? ;)

Art by Starfinder (http://yerf.com/starfinder/). We're not worthy...

Nemesis
Jan 22, 2003, 03:45 PM
Didn't look close enough at the picture, don't worry.

And hey, if you wanna do that sorta quality art, all it takes is practice. Don't be afraid to venture into new things.

Wild Angel
Jan 22, 2003, 06:46 PM
To me that just looks like two dogs. One with a bandana and the other with a little speedo-looking-thing. One with exuberant fangs.. that's all.

`Wildie

Cobra
Jan 22, 2003, 07:38 PM
Pretty long fingers they have, for just normal dogs.
Oh, wait. They have five fingers, just like humans.

Nemesis
Jan 22, 2003, 07:55 PM
Cobra being a smart-*** to me? Hrm...

Never thought I'd get a comment like that from her, of all people.

Wild Angel
Jan 22, 2003, 09:51 PM
I still say they look like dogs....

Batty Buddy
Jan 22, 2003, 10:01 PM
Que Passa!!!!

Same here, the fingers are almost impossible to see. They just look like two dogs, albeit dogs wearing clothes.

Unciaa
Jan 23, 2003, 02:24 AM
His torso width and arm shape are completely human, ditto the rest of their bodies; his chest "height" would have to be almost doubled to be animalistic, non-anthro legs cannot be stretched out like human legs can so this pose would be pretty much impossible,... That and, well, they're wearing clothes. *g*

Cobra
Jan 23, 2003, 05:11 AM
Human shoulders.

Just delve a bit deeper into the net and you'll find realistic furry art.

MoonBlazE
Jan 23, 2003, 07:40 AM
This means defeat to Nemesis. He prolly said it because he's jelaous. ;)

Unciaa
Jan 23, 2003, 09:19 AM
Let the victory celebrations commence!

:p

Batty Buddy
Jan 23, 2003, 09:27 AM
Que Passa!!!!

... won't really pay attention to the shape of the face and such.

To tell you the truth, the same is with me: only mine is a result of mental "imperfections". As a result, I suck at figuring out subtle expressions and my social life has taken several tumbles because of this "flaw". I also cannot read body language worth a darn (Part of the reason that my standerd pose for anything I draw looks kind of... bland and stiff-legged. Next time you look at my stuff, you've got to realise that that's the way I stand ordinarily.). That's the main reason I like cartoons, they have obvious expressions that are easy to identify, and everything is literal and makes sence to aspies like me.

Nemesis
Jan 23, 2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Moonblaze
This means defeat to Nemesis. He prolly said it because he's jelaous. ;)

That has to be the most childish thing anybody could have said. Seriously, Moonblaze, do you think I am jealous of somebody who can do furries at all? Furries become an obsession, and it is almost SAD to know that some people would rather be an anthro than a (-)g human. Furries are the ugliest things I've ever seen. People who wish they were furries tend to have a really sad social life, ONLY hanging around with other people who wish they were furries. Some furries are cool, but when you become so madly obsessed that you wish you were an anthropomorphic cat, things just get out of hand. I'd rather be a human, than be a human wishing I was something else. Oh, and when you start to draw yiff, I'll know how crazy you really are. It's not "strange" and "scary". It's (-)g disgusting.
"I don't really like the looks of a human either. if I could choose what I am I'd want to be an anthropomorphic cat."
I find that pretty funny, actually.

On the thing about how it's painted: If I was jealous of THAT, I'd have to heavily criticize Wild Angels work just to get even for her being SO GOOD. How did she get so good? PRACTICE. There is learning involved, but the majority of it is practice. Atleast portraits aren't the only things she paints/draws. I do my own art. I have no jealousy for a furry.

Yes, I know you were joking. :) But you gave me the excuse to write all that. I saw it coming around the (-)g corner.

I know other people who are furries, but they don't wish they were actually furries. Atleast they're somewhat sane.

Go ahead, hate me for trying to criticize work. If it's YOUR work I'm criticizing, it isn't because I hate you, and it isn't because I'm jealous.

I'm eagerly awaiting the flaming for this. Bring it. If you hate me for this, good. It's not like I regret saying it. :)

Wild Angel
Jan 23, 2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix Wing FW
Ever seen one with yellow HAIR, clothes and a bandana? Study the pic better next time.


I did and yes I have. ;P Ever stuck human clothes on a dog when you were six years old? Ever sprayed a dog with hair colour during halloween? Yeah. Oh and to me that looks brown, not yellow. Human beings are the most sensual things. And when you see yourself do you think, 'oh, another hairless-ape?' No. [Then you'd have oversized lips, two inch strands of hair coming from every little pore of your body, and you'd most likely be crouched on the floor and scrubbing your head at yourself in a mirror while making awkward sounds] You see yourself as what you see yourself as, that being good or bad. I see myself as a thermos *sp?*, cold as an artic winter on the outside, warm and comforting on the inside.

`Wildie

VelKa
Jan 23, 2003, 03:24 PM
This is hilarious.


`pranx0rific

Wild Angel
Jan 23, 2003, 03:27 PM
Isn't it though?


`Wildie

Cobra
Jan 23, 2003, 04:07 PM
Calm down, people. This thread will be closed if this keeps up.

Batty Buddy
Jan 23, 2003, 06:29 PM
Que Passa!!!!

I'm a bit reluctant to ask this, but I feel I really must:

What about those of us who just like to draw cartoons?!?

True, I draw what I like to call "Talking animal" strips(I myself don't see why I should call them furry, when talking animals works just fine), but I also draw humans, robots, monsters, gargoyals, plants, flowers, aliens- heck, I could probably make a decent cartoon character out of any random nicknack you could find on the ground.
And yet, I DO do realistic stuff: especially for fantasy's and dream sequances(I like to make the stuff that is not real look more realistic then the stuff that is. It's kind of like the majority of my childhood life.) However, I can't crank out realistic stuff in the middle of babysitting my cousins. I can't crank out realistic stuff in the moment that I have to take something hurtful that happened to me and put a funny spin on it. I can't crank out realistic stuff in the 5 minuites time I have before dinner. And in reality, I do not see drawing realistically as being very practical for an autistic such as myself to be doing when I can't keep my attention conscentrated long enough to do anything other then sketches.
I have a painting in my basement that I did in grade school of a still life boque of flowers with a stuffed bunny nearby. It's about the same quality as most of the realistic artists here. I never show it off, you know why: because, while it IS something I'm proud of, it isn't something I really enjoyed doing at the time.
I never really wanted to be like any of the stuff I draw. Quite the contrary: the stuff I draw reflects the way I feel like I am. At times, my life resembles a slapstick comic strip. However, I often go through life noticing what hypocrites and bigots people are in this so-called enlightened sociaty. I have to tell some people, yet everyone is so stuck up that they would probably kick my butt, all the while yelling at me to accept the status quo. The main reason I've always wanted to draw comics was to make a medium that was easier to digest, and the fact that I draw animals is because... It's always funnier when it happens to an animal since they are considered incapable of such opinions.
What I'm saying is: what about the guy who just wants to have fun and convey a message through art? Isn't that what it's all about anyway- It's not about how good you are, what techniques you use, or what subject matterial you have! It's not even about IMPROVMENT, unless the artist want's it to be.

Nemesis
Jan 23, 2003, 07:11 PM
"what about the guy who just wants to have fun and convey a message through art? Isn't that what it's all about anyway?"

I wasn't going on about that. Sorry if you misunderstood me, I was explaining why I didn't have anything to be jealous of in the picture Unciaa posted.

If you draw furries, or talking animals, fine! I never meant anything bad on THAT topic. It's when you get so obsessed with furries that it starts to rule your life... Drawing furries is fine, but if you're so madly obsessed to the point where you wish you were an "anthropomorphic cat", you've gone too far.

If I didn't like anybody who drew furries, I wouldn't like many people.

Cobra
Jan 23, 2003, 07:22 PM
...I for one wouldn't mind being Superman.

Everyone has fantasies of being someone they aren't. Don't deny people the fantasies, even if they seem childish. They are inspiring, and without them, some people wouldn't be able to live. There would be no hope.

Or I'm just exaggerating. Whatever.

Captain Spam
Jan 23, 2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Batty Buddy
True, I draw what I like to call "Talking animal" strips(I myself don't see why I should call them furry, when talking animals works just fine), but I also draw humans, robots, monsters, gargoyals, plants, flowers, aliens- heck, I could probably make a decent cartoon character out of any random nicknack you could find on the ground.

I know a guy who made a regular character out of a talking streetlamp... :-)

Nemesis
Jan 23, 2003, 07:55 PM
Well, ok... I forgot about such fantasies... But still, furry fandom seems to rule some peoples lives. I wouldn't expect many people to run around pretending they're superman unless they were a bit younger... And your dreams of being Superman don't rule your life, do they Cobra?

Maybe I'M just exaggerating. But some of these furries are very VERY sad people.

VelKa
Jan 23, 2003, 07:57 PM
<img src="http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/images/macro/burythisthread.jpg">

Unciaa
Jan 24, 2003, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by Nemesis
Well, ok... I forgot about such fantasies... But still, furry fandom seems to rule some peoples lives.

So does Star Trek for some trekkies. So do soap opera characters for some fans of those. I'd be most interested in you pointing out a fandom [or any part of the human society really] where you don't have those overobsessed with some or another aspect of it. So being obsessed with football, soccer, cars, politics or somesuch is fine because 'normal' people do it, but other interests are not? My dad commits at least as much time to following and discussing sports as I do furry.
And to paraphrase 2, whatever you may think of the fandom, at least we're not out there shooting people and raping babies . ;)

MoonBlazE
Jan 24, 2003, 09:53 AM
I belive people like furries because they're different from humans, something new than our mortal unimportnant commen life.
Btw Nemesis, would you like Micky Mouse in human form instead?

VelKa
Jan 24, 2003, 10:27 AM
Furries = Furries.

Realistic &gt; Furries.

Geez, why don't we all shut up already and draw what you want to draw. Simply don't get totally obsessed with non-real things, especially since you KNOW you will never become a "furry". Imagination is important, but do you think everything imagined will happen? No.

Therefore,

Furries ≈ Furries

<img src="http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/images/macro/burythisthread.jpg">

Nemesis
Jan 24, 2003, 02:58 PM
"So does Star Trek for some trekkies."

Agreed. ;)

"Nemesis, go and read a bit about the fandom and you'll understand the point of wanting to be e.g. a fox or a wolf"

I have, believe it or not. That doesn't mean I LIKE it. And I don't have to like it, and I'm not saying you guys have to not like it.

But from where I stand, I'm not jealous of such people, and I never will be. That's what my post was all about.

"Btw Nemesis, would you like Micky Mouse in human form instead?"

Nah. But I've never seen Mickey Mouse in any sexually suggestive cartoons or pictures. These days, there's a lot of yiff out there. It is kinda disgusting. Sure, I've never heard of Pho, as an example, drawing yiff. She might. I know not ALL furs are like what I said.

"And to paraphrase 2, whatever you may think of the fandom, at least we're not out there shooting people and raping babies . ;)"

Too bad if you're a psychotic fur with a gun who can't handle the fact that there are people like me in the world. ;)

Now, to the POINT.

Moonblaze's post suggested that I was jealous of these people and their art. I explained why I have nothing to be jealous of. I mean, seriously, why would I be jealous of someone who gets turned on by a dogs head on a human-like body? Besides, if I wanna be a fur, I'll be a fur. The only reason I'm not is because I'm not into that sorta ****.

This will be my last post here, because Megumi wants the thread done for. :)

'Twas nice chattin'. :)

Unciaa
Jan 24, 2003, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Nemesis
But from where I stand, I'm not jealous of such people, and I never will be. That's what my post was all about.
...
Moonblaze's post suggested that I was jealous of these people and their art. I explained why I have nothing to be jealous of. I mean, seriously, why would I be jealous of someone who gets turned on by a dogs head on a human-like body? Besides, if I wanna be a fur, I'll be a fur. The only reason I'm not is because I'm not into that sorta (-).


Erm, obsessing a bit much? ;)
I think Moonblaze's comment referred to the same thing we were all refering to- the quality of the painting. The attention to detail, fall of light, everything. That appreciation had little to nothing to do with the actual subject, that was just the catalyst. Moonblaze made a joke, a joke you apparently misunderstood and went into a full-blown rant... Alright, even if you're not jealous, regardless of relevance, what does that have to do with people obsessing with anthropomorphics? Or finding them sexually appealing? Or you NOT finding them sexually appealing?

You're behaving like a guy who had someone make a comment along the lines of "so what do you think of that guy?" to, going into a long anti-gay rant just to affirm your manhood and prove that you are NOT "one of them".
Chill. We get it. You're not. Moving on. :p


Megumi: You know, when most people find a certain thread to be uninteresting, they stop reading it. ;)

Nemesis
Jan 24, 2003, 05:01 PM
Yes, I realise that you were commenting on the quality of the picture. Not all "jokes" are taken lightly, especially when you're on the recieving end of it.

I was actually keeping that rant held in for a while. I felt like adding that to my comments. I mean, seeing as it is so obvious, and always has been, that you all hate me, I felt like revving you all up a little. :) Looks like that's what I did. Besides, I'm getting sick of getting (-) from you people when I try criticize something. Can't you handle it? Gotta go cry to mummy because I said something negative? Wah. Yeah, I know you all hate me. :) I bet you wonder why I still hang around. I'm wondering the same thing. Oh well.

I did ALSO mention that I'm not jealous of the picture. I do my own art. I've learnt NOT to be jealous of other peoples artistic talent.

Batty Buddy
Jan 24, 2003, 05:42 PM
Que Passa!!!!

You say toMAYto, I say toMAHto
Let's call the whole thing off...

Nemesis
Jan 24, 2003, 05:45 PM
Good idea.

Radium
Jan 24, 2003, 06:27 PM
This went from a discussion about what type of art people liked to a debate over sexual attractions to anthropomorphic animals...

I love it when threads change topics like this. It makes things more interesting. And do those dog-like-things in the picture Unciaa posted have cloths on...?

Tik
Jan 24, 2003, 06:35 PM
And do those dog-like-things in the picture Unciaa posted have cloths on...? Well now we all know where YOUR mind is.

<b>*Claims the Page For Stuff*</b>

Radium
Jan 24, 2003, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Spaztic
Well now we all know where YOUR mind is.

<b>*Claims the Page For Stuff*</b>
¬_¬ You mis-interpreted that... really, you did.

MoonBlazE
Jan 25, 2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Unciaa
I think Moonblaze's comment referred to the same thing we were all refering to- the quality of the painting.Exactelly.

I did never care if Nemesis liked furries or not, but I'd not agree when he said "They're just animals".
I respect Nemesis as he is, even he hates us all. ;P

Nemesis
Jan 25, 2003, 03:52 AM
I never expect anybody to agree. Not many people on this forum DO agree with my views.

I never said I hate any of you. :)

But I won't call you friends. You wouldn't agree with my if I said I was your friend. ;)

Apologies to anybody offended. Hey, this gave me some satisfaction atleast. You misunderstand, though, I don't hate all furries. I have friends who ARE furries. They don't exactly AGREE with my views, but they also don't give a ****. :)

MoonBlazE
Jan 25, 2003, 04:16 PM
Also, about yiffi Furry stuff, I *dared* ask someone who drew things like that why.

Why do you need to create those images of creatures suffering?

It dissipates some bad karma. I am human, with all its defects that infers. It would be a big lie if I were to deny that the ideas in those images have not recurred in my mind.
Strange as it may sound, this is catharsis for my soul. By putting those images onto paper, I purge dark feelings from my mind. Victimizing someone or being someone else's victim is not a situation I would like to find myself. Unless it were a play, a game between consenting adults.

Blade
Jan 26, 2003, 12:31 AM
Cartoonish artwork. Cartoons rock.

Radium
Jan 26, 2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Moonblaze
Also, about yiffi Furry stuff, I *dared* ask someone who drew things like that why.

Why do you need to create those images of creatures suffering?

It dissipates some bad karma. I am human, with all its defects that infers. It would be a big lie if I were to deny that the ideas in those images have not recurred in my mind.
Strange as it may sound, this is catharsis for my soul. By putting those images onto paper, I purge dark feelings from my mind. Victimizing someone or being someone else's victim is not a situation I would like to find myself. Unless it were a play, a game between consenting adults.
Sounds somewhat heretic-like.

Unciaa
Jan 27, 2003, 05:15 PM
It does?


http://zdoom.notgod.com/heretic.jpg
Why do you need to create those images of creatures suffering?


You know, you may have a point.

MoonBlazE
Jan 28, 2003, 05:19 AM
I was asking an artist that drew things like "bondage" or "painfull sex", things cartoon characters shouldn't have been put into.
I don't really think so much of yiffi furry stuff anyway.

Skulg
Jan 29, 2003, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by Moonblaze
I was asking an artist that drew things like "bondage" or "painfull sex", things cartoon characters shouldn't have been put into.
I don't really think so much of yiffi furry stuff anyway.
But you have to think of the fact that they're just drawn characters. No real persons/animals/whatever. Artists can do whatever they want with their characters. They're artists! So if they want them to have painful sex they can <i>draw</i> them having painful sex.

There's one simple solution: If you don't like stuff like that, don't look.

<b>This is not meant as any offense</b>.. this is just how <i>I</i> see this. This goes to everyone, not only to Moonblaze. *huggles Blazey*

MoonBlazE
Jan 29, 2003, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by $kúlg
But you have to think of the fact that they're just drawn characters. No real persons/animals/whatever. Artists can do whatever they want with their characters. They're artists! So if they want them to have painful sex they can <i>draw</i> them having painful sex.

There's one simple solution: If you don't like stuff like that, don't look.

<b>This is not meant as any offense</b>.. this is just how <i>I</i> see this. This goes to everyone, not only to Moonblaze. *huggles Blazey* I use <b>VCL Sieve</b> to filter some centrain artist that I don't like very much, so nya. ;P