What do you think is the future of Jazz?

[Trafton]

I know this is a common question, but I do not call a poll posing it in quite this form before, so I thought it would be an interesting question to ask.

What, exactly, do you think is the fate of Jazz?

Personally, I think there is a low chance but still a chance that anymore games will come out. I also think that the game will still be played for at least two and a half more years.

Sorry, by the way, for so many options, but I wanted to cover all bases.

~ Traft

[KRSplat]

I think the odds are 50:50 that JJ3 will come out, it would be lower but Trafton is hoaxing it so it has to be true... unless it's not. You really didn't give a choice for maybe, everything was yes, probably not or no (or who cares/no comment.)

BTW, this belongs in The Future of Jazz.

[Ice M A N]

Where's the "Jazz 1 is the future" option? ;)

[Lark]

On mIRC, CliffyB said himself that there is no Jazz project in the making, but maybe he went there and said that to trick us and let us be surprised. Why do all these gaming companies have to be so myserious!?!?!?!?!?

Q: When will it come out?
A: When it's done.


AAARGH!

Derby: Content removal.

[Radium]

Why do all these gaming companies have to be so myserious!?!?!?!?!?
Because they aren't really doing anything and don't want to admit it.

Derby: Previous quotation edit.

[KRSplat]

Because they are not allowed to say anything. Someone could steal something or something else bad could happen.

[Tubz]

Jazz 3 might come out, but probably not; Jazz 2 will live for a while.
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This is what I think, indeed Jazz3 has a possibility of coming out. But most likely it won't, and Jazz2 is not dead yet.

[Sciz CT]

Just so long as JJ3 doesn't take a DNF turn (as in the release date being "When it's done" for six years and counting) if it's actually in development in some dark basement.

[Unhit]

Option 6.

[Feline]

Epic is desperate... Unreal is costing them big bucks now because Unreal 2 is flopping... So they come crawling back to us to beg us to support them on their old mission of creating a jazz3 game. It will be made... that much is for sure... but Epic may go out of business because of poor money decisions (such as only concentrating on ONE game and rejecting everything else).

[Stijn]

As long as it isn't as bad as Daikatana.
Why is there no option "JJ3 will come out and it will suck"?

[Unhit]

lol

[Lama]

As long as it isn't as bad as Daikatana.
Why is there no option "JJ3 will come out and it will suck"?

:lol: Pure gold.

Anyway, there is sort of an option. You can choose Other and then state in this thread "JJ3 will come out and it will suck."

[$tilettø]

Jazz3 will not come out.

[Ninja Dodo]

As long as people keep making levels and other keep playing them, Jazz is alive and kicking. I for one intend to keep making stuff as long as there's people wanting to play it.

Jazz3? Well, Cliffy may suprise us... and then he may not. We'll just see what happens, I guess.

[ßúññ¥€lmérTbtCC]

Jazz 3 might come out, but probably not; Jazz 2 will live for a while.

[defalcon]

Epic is desperate... Unreal is costing them big bucks now because Unreal 2 is flopping... So they come crawling back to us to beg us to support them on their old mission of creating a jazz3 game. It will be made... that much is for sure... but Epic may go out of business because of poor money decisions (such as only concentrating on ONE game and rejecting everything else).
Are you kidding? All the many companies licensing the Unreal Engine have to pay Epic hundreds-of-thousands of dollars. They're getting rich off the engine alone. And although Unreal 2 and UT2K3 aren't the humongous sucesses they were hoping, they still earned quite a bit.

I'm putting my money on....option 2.

[Rage]

I hate to be so pessimistic, but Jazz 3 will not come out, and Jazz 2 is dead.

[SoulFirE]

Jazz 3 might come out, Jazz 2 will live on...

And no Rage, Jazz 2 is not dead, another JDC season has just started. So you're wrong.

[Xion]

Jazz 3 might come out, but probably not; Jazz 2 is basically dead.

You all killed it with the CTF thing...
:r Makes me puke! :r

[Cobra x]

If this site didnt excist
i would not even play JJ2 anymore
there where no servers anymore
there arent many site's left
i know 4 that work

if and i say if Jazz 3 is comming out it would be a great game
But no one know when it comes out or IF it comes out

[Rage]

Look, with the new serverlist errors and the fact that the game is rarely seen in stores, I'm pretty sure there won't be much new players, so the game is dead.

And Jazz 3 is hopeless.

[SoulFirE]

Noooew, the game is being played, so it is not dead.

If noone new would play Warcraft 3 from now on, would you say that is dead? No.

[Unhit]

Oh WC3....that's some keyword ;)

[Tubz]

Epic is desperate... Unreal is costing them big bucks now because Unreal 2 is flopping... So they come crawling back to us to beg us to support them on their old mission of creating a jazz3 game. It will be made... that much is for sure... but Epic may go out of business because of poor money decisions (such as only concentrating on ONE game and rejecting everything else).

What ever happened to the One Must Fall: Battlegrounds game, it never came out?

[Tubz]

Jazz 3 might come out, but probably not; Jazz 2 is basically dead.

You all killed it with the CTF thing...
:r Makes me puke! :r

Not exactly Xion. But CTF appears more popular. Than battle ever was. Gah, CTF is crap though. It's boring, I would only get good at it, so I can increase my Battle skills.

[Unhit]

CTF=god.

[SoulFirE]

No.

[Strato]

OMF:BG hasn't come out yet and pobably won't, because it has ben in DEV for at least 4 years, and only uber-sucsseful game's can have their 2nd installment be in DEV for too long like Half-Life.

OMF:BG will be definantly under-whelming becuase it will be far behind the curve by the time it comes out. Thats the risk of taking to long, as it was started in 2000 it will be like a game made in 2000. Sry to be so negative.

But Epic forgot about one thing when they shifted away from all things jazzy. They left a strong community with many great members, many of them programers, level makers, tileset makers, story writers, speech writers, and even the life and blood of jj2, the fans. That and the fact that their attitude towards jj2 gives it a lot of attention. We get our time in the spotlite on many sites, sometimes in praise, sometimes as a joke, but either way, it gets the message out that jazz is still alive and we need some help. Companies seeing this may see an opprotunity, a great game could be made if only they tried a little. Seeing the true sucsess that jazz 2 turned out to be, seeing a handful of players conquer all, it shows that even a simple game thats well past it's prime can prove to be a serious game that, with the proper advertising, can make a bunch of money. That is what game makers want.

[Enigma]

Jazz 3 might come out, but probably not; Jazz 2 is basically dead.

You all killed it with the CTF thing...
:r Makes me puke! :r

Erm... explain?

[Xion]

Erm... explain?
Run, grab a flag, run back, score. BLAND.

Or it's

Uber player 1 has grabbed the red flag
Uber player 2 has grabbed the blue flag

Everybody has to let them duke it out because a whole team could not stop them. BOO-RING.

[Radium]

Everybody has to let them duke it out because a whole team could not stop them. BOO-RING.
The rest of the team <i>could</i> help Uber player. Even someone like Xion could probably hide in a corner shooting.

[Enigma]

Run, grab a flag, run back, score. BLAND.

There is roasting too. Which makes it similar to battle except that it comes with the grabbing of flags and running like you said. Which makes it more than battle (I'm not saying more fun, that's for you to decide. But listening to you, i think you played some weird CTF games if there was no roasting involved)

Or it's

Uber player 1 has grabbed the red flag
Uber player 2 has grabbed the blue flag

Everybody has to let them duke it out because a whole team could not stop them. BOO-RING.

What Radium said. Even the best player will be in serious trouble if an entire team is chasing him.

[Xion]

strange, I can get out of a six-on-one situation without a scratch, and I'm not even an uber player.

And I don't like CTF because I like to kill. If I cannot kill everything in sight I don't like it!

UT99 CTF is almost the same, except for one thing: It is in 3D. You can point your gun anywhere, you can go anywhere...JJ2 is too limiting.

[Krezack]

I'm sick to death of Jazz.

Maybe if they made a new game that was serious, yet true to the universe - an RPG. That would be cool. But not another shooter, no thanks.

[Xion]

lol Krezack...

I know a way to fuse both of these worlds...

Make Jazz3 like PSO...:)

Guns and EXP...lotsa FUN!

[CelL]

Enjoy Jazz while its alive. Whee.

[Monolith]

Other: JJ3 may or may not come out -- JJ2 isn't quite dead, but isn't really alive either -- the JJ2 community will stay together for a while longer.

[Cobra x]

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I never heard official that Epic whas working on it it where only rumors
but ive seen a screen that screen looked Real
I never heard official that Epic stopt working on Jazz3
it are all rumors about jazz3
No one ever asked Epic games if there whas comming an new jazz game
But i think if they knew that it whas still in the Community they would have already made Jazz3
but everybody thinks jazz2 is dead but it isnt
even my brother of 21 still plays Jazz1 and 2 and i never stopped playing it! I think that we should not say that Jazz3 isnt comming out it may take some time but i think it comes out one day!

[Blade Nightflame]

JJ3 sucks m4n!! Th3 c0mp4ny just m4d3 us th1nk th4t,th3 g4m3 w1ll c0m3 0ut just t0 surpr1s3 us!!

Translation from l33t language:

JJ3 sucks man!! The company just made us think that,the game will come out just to surprise us!!

Derby: Severe filter bypass removal. This has resulted in a warning. Refrain from doing this again.

[Unhit]

Yo Man You're 1337 :|

;)


But I claim page :O

[Tik]

On the JMMB in late 1999 a bunch of people were screaming "Jazz2 is dead" but in 2003 it's still being played, I think that says something. Just because a game isn't a huge success or loses a lot of its fanbase never makes it 'dead', because people are still playing it.

The new JDC season, JCS94, new online gametypes, lots of forum and IRC activity (certainly not to the degree of larger-scale games, but nevertheless still credible)...Jazz2 is not dead and won't die for a long while at least while the community is still alive. I hate to be repetitive but the one thing I know will make a large boost in community activity would be getting the source code, and I don't think that is such a far-off thing. We could implement and improve on tons of stuff, we could combine the 1.23 and TSF communities more successfully, possibilities are endless.

As for Jazz3, I doubt it, but I don't think it's something to sneeze at.

[Black Ninja]

OMF:BG hasn't come out yet and pobably won't, because it has ben in DEV for at least 4 years, and only uber-sucsseful game's can have their 2nd installment be in DEV for too long like Half-Life.

OMF:BG will be definantly under-whelming becuase it will be far behind the curve by the time it comes out. Thats the risk of taking to long, as it was started in 2000 it will be like a game made in 2000. Sry to be so negative.

But Epic forgot about one thing when they shifted away from all things jazzy. They left a strong community with many great members, many of them programers, level makers, tileset makers, story writers, speech writers, and even the life and blood of jj2, the fans. That and the fact that their attitude towards jj2 gives it a lot of attention. We get our time in the spotlite on many sites, sometimes in praise, sometimes as a joke, but either way, it gets the message out that jazz is still alive and we need some help. Companies seeing this may see an opprotunity, a great game could be made if only they tried a little. Seeing the true sucsess that jazz 2 turned out to be, seeing a handful of players conquer all, it shows that even a simple game thats well past it's prime can prove to be a serious game that, with the proper advertising, can make a bunch of money. That is what game makers want.


OMF:BG will come out. It is coming out this September. The graphics are *not* that of 2000. They are breathtaking, to say the least. OMF:BG will come out and own. As far as what I voted on the poll, I think JJ3 won't come out and that JJ2 is half-dead.

[Stijn]

Why would we actually care if JJ2 is dead? I don't give a (derby) about it.

[Unhit]

Lol Flash :P

[NighthawkAR]

Since i haven't been on Jcf for a while and i don't play JJ2 anymore, i wouldn't know if this has been done.... but we should make an online petition of wanting to make JJ3. If epic sees that they will have enough buyers, and that JJ2 was played by so many people for so long, that might make them give a second thought to JJ3.

My personal opinion right now though is that JJ2 will live on for a while longer, but JJ3 won't come out.