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[Baggers]

Ugh....writing code for waves is (-)(-)(-)(-) hard...my brain aches....its less the waves and more calculating normals of vertices when they are constantly changing...
Sorry if that went ove your head i just needed to vent !...im going to see if anyone else has had more success than me with this !

[Violet CLM]

Site updated. The front page may look strange for a bit while I try to get the CSS to all work properly.

Baggers: If you're just going for an accurate conversion, there aren't any waves, there's only a single surface which rises up and down.

[MasterRyu]

Nice work baggers, looks like the foundation for a fine engine...ran at 161 FPS max
at 1024x768 and 32 bit color on my Athlon XP 2600+ machine with an 128MB GeForce FX 5200 video card and 768MB of RAM.

[DoubleGJ]

Still, waves could be nice, so I cheer up.

[jonnyhr]

Still here folks.. when my model is done.. it will also be free to use for everyone.. sinse its Baggers call really :D

[Baggers]

Thanks Jonny! that does make life much simpler, now i only have to deal with a way so that the credits stay intact...thats the one bit i'd rather people didnt fiddle with !

Also the demo have been updated...as some people on the darkbasic forums couldnt get the demo to run due to resolution issues. I fixed this but I didnt remove the new sounds i had added and the start of the 'Seeker' code (no explosions yet though)...for those who have already seen the demo its not much new...however it is a little slower than the last one as I think the sounds do slow the game abit...I sped up the bouncers code a little but not the blaster's code yet, so that still murders the framerate !

I got the wave code working, just getting the object to cast shadows properly was hell, so i might just leave it at that for now...ill show a little video soon, its not much, but the code was evil !

[Violet CLM]

Hmm... same error as last time. It requests either 16 or 32 bit color, and when I set it to 16 bit, it claims that the hardware does not support the color mode.

[Baggers]

(-)(-)(-)(-) IT !...ok gonna try again !

[Baggers]

Ok Updated it again....its like the 7 time or something like that...i hope it works now, sorry for the inconvenience .

[LittleFreak]

Thanks Jonny! that does make life much simpler, now i only have to deal with a way so that the credits stay intact...thats the one bit i'd rather people didnt fiddle with !

I have a suggestion, just make a word file (or another office programm) and list all the people that have helped so far (that means important help, such as modeling, or something, I guess you won't have to mention me for "helping you get the credits right" :P).

Every time someone does something important who is not in the list, include him.

Hope that helps, and good luck on it. :)

[Stijn]

Indeed, the bigger the credits the better ;)

Besides, it will look like there's an enormous team behind the game with YOU as leader! kekeke

[Baggers]

I have been making a list for a little while now, just like you said 'LittleFreak', and its a respectable size for such a small project.
@ Unknown Rabbit: I have found two other people with the same error as you, so i am going to get one of them to compile the code on their machine and send me the exe, so youll have a copy soon !...its just being more awkward that expected.

[Baggers]

Hi again, just another couple of questions for you guys.

Im currently designing the level for the first proper demo and its going to be a mix of a good few styles from the first game (i.e. You start in the training zone in the castle and the leave to the dimondous forever style bit and then into a weirder science style part) and its looking pretty cool, but i was just wondering about your preference on objects.

I myself played the OEM more recently that the original and i actualy prefer the Diamonds from the OEM version to the ones from the actual game...I was wondering your preference on certain things.

OEM Diamonds -v- Original Diamonds
Do you want to see points fly away like the original or not ?
Do you want to be able to collect carrots even if you dont need them ?
Do you want tubes you get sucked down to be transparent or not ? (its really easy to do either !)
Any other preferences you can think of ?

Oh and heres a very eary WIP of the Castle bit of the level, ive been on it for about 20 mins so far...ahh this demo is going to be cool !
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/DemoLevWIP.jpg

[LittleFreak]

OEM Diamonds -v- Original Diamonds

OEM Diamondus.

Do you want to see points fly away like the original or not ?

Make them fly away.

Do you want to be able to collect carrots even if you dont need them ?

No.

Do you want tubes you get sucked down to be transparent or not ? (its really easy to do either !)

Transparent.

Any other preferences you can think of ?

Include the airboard part. ;)

[cooba]

OEM Diamondus.Diamonds. Not Diamondus.Make points fly away.That would look nah in 3d. Do you want to be able to collect carrots even if you dont need them ?No.Why? That's what I liked in particular in OEM.

By the way, Baggers, it seems that you want misplaced Carrottus and Diamondus in gameplay order. ;)

[Radium]

That would look nah in 3d.
On the contrary, I think it would look alright (as long as the numbers weren't blocky sprites and they always faced the camera)

As far as carrots go, it's hard to say. It's annoying to be able to get a carrot when you might need it later, but if you're playing for points you end up having to get hurt if you want to get the carrot. Granted, nobody seems to play for points, so I'll have to side with not being able to get them.

[LittleFreak]

Diamonds. Not Diamondus.

Ooops. ;D I'm for OEM diamonds.

That would look nah in 3d.Why? That's what I liked in particular in OEM.

What Radium said.

As far as carrots go, it's hard to say. It's annoying to be able to get a carrot when you might need it later, but if you're playing for points you end up having to get hurt if you want to get the carrot. Granted, nobody seems to play for points, so I'll have to side with not being able to get them.

What about an option in the main menu? That way everybody should be happy. :)

[piet]

hi all!

maybe i can help you with a remake of a jazz map.

i am working on one for my game (battle1 map) and its allmost done.
its in quake3 format (created in quark) tell me if you are interested

[Baggers]

@br>piet: Wow sounds great, what other formats can you save too ?

@all: thanks for the responce people, its a great help!...Oh and i can do the points in the original font and colour and also i can do it in true 3d (the points fly away from the actual point in 3D space or they can be done in 2D just like the original)

[cooba]

What about an option in the main menu? That way everybody should be happy. :)Or what about a difficulty mode where you eat carrots even if you're 100% healthy =D?

[Baggers]

@Cooba: Difficulty sounds good !

@All: Sorry for another request but is there any chance anyone could rip the background layers from Jazz2...im currently piecing bits together for texturing the castle and its hell, if anyone has any idea of how to obtain the full back layers please enlighten me !

[LittleFreak]

Or what about a difficulty mode where you eat carrots even if you're 100% healthy =D?

Whee! =D

[Violet CLM]

@All: Sorry for another request but is there any chance anyone could rip the background layers from Jazz2...im currently piecing bits together for texturing the castle and its hell, if anyone has any idea of how to obtain the full back layers please enlighten me !
...yes. It's called JCS.

I like the regular gems better because they look more mystical and less like rocks. OEM Diamondus is fine, though.

[Radium]

I like the regular gems better because they look more mystical and less like rocks.
Gems <i>are</i> rocks. Even if they can float in mid air.

[Baggers]

Ahh...lucky me...i dont have JCS !

[LittleFreak]

Buy the game then. :P

@ Violet:

Whee! Another one. He's talking about Diamonds not Diamondus. :P

[Violet CLM]

@Littlefreak: If I didn't understand that, would I vote No on OEM Diamonds and Yes on OEM Diamondus in the same post?

[LittleFreak]

@Littlefreak: If I didn't understand that, would I vote No on OEM Diamonds and Yes on OEM Diamondus in the same post?

You beat me. d=

[n00b]

Ahh...lucky me...i dont have JCS !
Ahhh lucky you! I think I have a rip of the castle tileset somewhere(you know, in case a fangame fever hits me) and I'll upload it as soon as I can find it.

[Baggers]

ALL HAIL nOOb !

p.s. Thanks man
@All the level is progressing well, im having to tackle some camera and collision problems i didnt know about but its going ok, im just putting some flames into the wall mountings.

[Olsen]

Could you upload a new pic of how it looks? :P

Oh and pageclaim!

[LittleFreak]

Baggers, check your PMs.

[n00b]

http://www.vipir.com/haiku/phil-bin/castle.PNG
Found the rip

[cooba]

I can send you JCS and official tilesets so you can rip by yourself, Baggers.

[LittleFreak]

The tilesets aren't needed, are they?

[Baggers]

*UPDATE*
NEW PICS ARIVING SOON

And here they are !
Note, this is very much a WIP still !
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzJackrabbit3DPic4.jpg
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzJackrabbit3DPic5.jpg
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzJackrabbit3DPic6.jpg
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzJackrabbit3DPic7.jpg
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzJackrabbit3DPic8.jpg
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzJackrabbit3DPic9.jpg
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzJackrabbit3DPic10.jpg

What do you think ? any good ?!

[cooba]

The tilesets aren't needed, are they?How can he rip tiles from tilesets if there are no tilesets? JCS CAN'T OPEN .LEV FILES BECAUSE THEY WERE MADE WITH MLLE PLZTHX

The shots are, well... ugly. Walls don't tile with themselves, and they're dull and immensely resized imo.

[Baggers]

Fair scruff !..will have to sort that out then !

[n00b]

I'm still puzzled by why The Castle leads to Diamondus and not Carrotus.
I personally like the shots but the walls do need to be resized to something a tad smaller.(edit- on the inside, because they seem to look good on the outside picture)
(and what's with the outside of the castle in the balcony pic? Is Spaz having an acid trip?)

[Baggers]

Oh the fact that it leads to diamondus is that in this demo im only showing a few different areas, its not the actual flow of the game its just a demo.
The outside balcony bit has a crazy window/field thing around it, I felt like having a good view and needed a way so the player had to go down the tube and not just jump off the castle..it is a bit trippy though !
Ill resize the inside walls then !...the hard part is getting different black in as What would be great would be to have one huge texture for the whole inside so i can add as much variation and detail as i like...however this is impractical memory wise (and also i was in a hurry to get the model done).
As I said before Im not a modeler, so any help is most welcome!
@br>piet: i case you dont look on the previous page, I would love your help...can you save your levels in any other format ?

[Risp_old]

Stained glass, I would think.

[Baggers]

Ahh Risp posted as I was typing! (see above his post)

[Violet CLM]

Basically, you're using the walls all wrong. A JJ2 level with the walls all one tile would look ugly. That's why there's so much variation available. And the tops of platforms should be smooth, like in the tileset. And they should actually line up with other platforms, so they look like they're blocks instead of smooth painted surfaces.

[Strato]

Also, using a bunch of destruct blocks like that looks rather dumb. Just add a big ol crack in a normal wall tile or something.

[Baggers]

Destruct Blocks ?...sorry man, im not quite as good on the lingo as you guys!

[LittleFreak]

I like most of the pics, though I do not quiet understand the before last one.

You should, however, use the floor tiles of original castle.

@ Cooba: So he needs all the tilesets separetely? Oh well.

[Stijn]

Destruct blocks = tiles you can destroy (for example buttstomp or shootable blocks)

[Violet CLM]

Site updated.

[Baggers]

I dont suppose any of you guys have DarkBasicPro do you, as ive just released the demo you have seen as opensource. anyone interested in the source ?

[n00b]

DBP? No. If I did, I would have begun progress on BC-3d.
Oh, and I must get videos of two Jazz 2 bosses you would have never heard of(considering you still have the OEM) Bilsy and the Rocket turtle.

[Baggers]

Oh please that would be great!

[Radium]

I dont suppose any of you guys have DarkBasicPro do you, as ive just released the demo you have seen as opensource. anyone interested in the source ?
I have DBPro, but I got it a fairly long time ago and it's probably an outdated version by now. I haven't done much with it either.

[Baggers]

Ah well the updates are free but if you havnt done much the code will be a bit deep !

[n00b]

Bah, SnagIt7 isn't working right now. I should have the videos soon.

[Sonyk]

I've been skimming over this topic, and I must say, the idea of the Castle leading to Diamondus seems like a good idea to me. In the final version though, for accuracy story, Diamondus'll need to be reached by Devan's time machine, and that area could become Carrotus, etc. Like a free roam type area, where bosses need to be beaten to reach the next area, and certain devices would allow you travel to certain areas. In short, something like a free range area sounds like what I mean, and I think it'd do some good...

Anyway Baggers, if you care, you could PM or IM me, since I'm relatively good with plot and stories, etc.

[piet]

You mean graphics for the site ?
Oh by the way Razz Arena looks great !...been looking through the pics, love the castle level !

i can help you with a site like mine, with a forum news system gallery downloads etc.
tell me if you are interested (i do't have mutch time next 2/3 weeks though).

[Baggers]

Hey folks, just to say sorry i havnt posted for a while...i have been visiting here but ive been rather busy...however jazz has not stopped, ive managed to get hold of a decent level designer who is going to have a go at the demo level for me...here is a little example of his work in modeling (no levels here just models...but he is a big jazz fan)
http://www.themillerhood.com/

coding wise there isnt much new...ive mainly been organising the creation of objects for the game.

Hope you are still interested...ill be back on sunday, im in the woods for the next few days.
Have fun guys !

[DoubleGJ]

<--- still very interested

[Olsen]

Still very interested

[n00b]

Proballay the most interested here.

[Baggers]

Im back!....had less to do today than i imagined so im free !
Great thanks for the support guys !
Also im just about to start on ememy AI which will be a nice challenge.
I'll keep you posted.

[n00b]

Whooot Enemy AI!
Oh oh! If you do the basic turtles, have them hide in their shells for defence.

[Baggers]

Dont worry i will !...also they have another attack where they leap and go inside their shells and try and slide into you...it makes them a little harder but they are vunerable if you move in time.

Also as far as controls im allowing the player to target enemies...this way we can keep the more traditional controls rather than using the mouse...i havnt implemented this yet so if it doesnt feel right ill come up with something else!

Progress Report: Bat AI is done...and it was nice and short !

To all: I dont know about you but ive always felt the old game was a bit too easy, so im currently trying to come up with new enemy ideas...id love your input on this and any sketches you want to add in would be appretiated...
However the constriction is the style, you guys all know the feel of the game so try to keep to it please.
My current little ideas have been spiders (which stay on the ceiling and try and drop on to you) for the castle, and a goon with a carrot-firing mortar!

[cooba]

Progress Report: Bat AI is done...and it was nice and short !w00t! demo = thx

[Baggers]

Fraid not yet !..ill need models first, ive only got placeholders at the moment...the bat is just a sphere..but he sounds perfect and behaves well !

[Sonyk]

I had an idea for the turtle... When you're far away, it hides in its shell, and moves twords you when you get close.

Just a thought... But with that, who knows, you can make turtles with rocks for shells and make it harder...

[n00b]

I had an idea for the turtle... When you're far away, it hides in its shell, and moves twords you when you get close.

Just a thought... But with that, who knows, you can make turtles with rocks for shells and make it harder...
Actually, in JJ3 the turtles were invincible in their shells.
Also to point out- In JJ2, when the turtles changed directions and went in their shells, while in the shell you could shoot while standing up and they would be able to 'duck' over the bullet.
Edit- Enemy ideas?
Lizards that attack by break dancing
Bats that turn into Turtle Vamires
The Skeleton can dissamble itself to get away
Copter Lizards that can pick up enemies and toss them at you
Enemies that use each other as sheilds
Witch can turn other enemies into Mutated Turtle Frogs
-I'm just typing what comes off the top of my head for the enemy ideas)

[cooba]

Turtle Suicide Bombers.

[Baggers]

@Cooba: hehe...very serious sam'ish..i like !....defiantely suicide somthing...maybe goons!

@Noob: Copter Lizards that can pick up enemies and toss them at you - This I really like !
Enemies that use each other as sheilds- probably a bit too hard to code well.
The Skeleton can dissamble itself to get away-Ooo, Challenging but it would be worth it !

[Risp_old]

Perhaps a special skeleton that can pick up the bones that fall off when you shoot it and put itself back togeather. Thus, you would need to keep it moving so it is unable to get at it's fallen bones.

[Baggers]

Yeah that would be cool...maybe a little hard to code..but cool !
Oh has anyone heard from Hare in a while?...im dying to use that Jazz Model he was working on.

[Blackraptor]

Last time he posted something on the JCF was Feb 26.

Btw, I really like some of the ideas n00b suggested.

[piet]

hay baggers, can you get me the max file of Jonny Ree's Jazz Model?

[Baggers]

Wish i could !...he's not been in contact for a while, i belive he was taking a little break. Ill have to email him soon and see.

[piet]

ok :P

oh and by the way can you use a good website?
i am kinda in the Jazz jackrabbit 3d game website creating mood.

SPAM SPAM SPAM
--> http://www.eckhart.da.ru/razz/ <--
SPAM SPAM SPAM

[Baggers]

Well only if 'Unknown Rabbit' doesnt mind, as i dont want to cause any bad blood between people over this little project. However if all is good with her then feel free ! That would be two fan sites !

[Violet CLM]

Her, eh? That's a new one with this name...

Uh, go ahead. It's not like there wasn't Possum World and Possum Universe and Possum 2 City and goodness knows what else.

[Baggers]

You heard the man !...go for it !
@Unknown: sorry i put her as im sure i heard your were female...if im wrong just say !

[cooba]

@Unknown: sorry i put her as im sure i heard your were female..I think I know what caused that. But that's irrelevant. ;p

[Baggers]

K!

Anyway back on track...I am currently working on the turtle AI...just spent the last 20mins hunting down a bug in the waypoint system but thats fixed now, so patrols are live !
This allows for up to 8 different locations for a creature to patrol.

[Baggers]

Well for some reason i never stop trying to model and this time it actualy came out ok...this is the WIP of the turtle.
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/TurtleWIP.jpg

HOLY COW...ive nearly shifted a gig of data from my webspace this month...and i did the same last month, thanks people !

[Sonyk]

I thought you said you weren't good at modeling... That looks great! I wanna see it textured...

But, if you can do the turtle that nicely, I'd think that the bat'll look nice too.

[Baggers]

@Sonyk: wow thanks !...yeah this is the model im most pleased with so far...now i need to learn to texture things properly !
I may give the bat a go soon...its the animating thats going to be the hard bit !

@All: The turtle is hunting me !....hehe it chased me but i led it into a pit...it go stuck and i shot it !

[Baggers]

Hmm a little help needed here folks.
Can anyone tell me how much damage each weapon does in relation to the 'number of hits to kill' details on this page ?
http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/node.php?title=badGuys

Sorry its just that im not sure my details are acurate.

[Violet CLM]

BLASTER: 1
BLASTER PU: 2
BOUNCER: 1
BOUNCER PU: 2
FROSTBITER: 0
FROSTBITER PU: 0
MISSILE LAUNCHER: 2
MISSILE LAUNCHER PU: 3
REALLY FAST MISSILE LAUNCHER: 2 each
REALLY FAST MISSILE LAUNCHER PU: 2 each
TOASTER: 1 each
TOASTER PU: 1 each
PEPPER SPRAY: 1 each
PEPPER SPRAY PU: 1 each
ELECTRO BLASTER: 1
ELECTRO BLASTER PU: 1
FIRE SHIELD: 3
BUBBLE SHIELD: 1 each
PLASMA SHIELD: 3
LASER SHIELD: 25

[Sonyk]

If it helps you, though I'm sure you know this already, the bat has 2 stances... hanging from event pos, and flying. If you want to make it accurate, the bat starts hanging from it's position, until the character comes within a range of 3 tiles (or whatever unit of measurement you will use), then starts flying. If you leave its range, it'll return to the start position, still flying.

[Baggers]

@Unknown: thanks, ive put in the blaster and bouncer damage now...ive killed me my first bat and turtle !

@Sonyk: Thanks...yeah mine works like that except ive allowed the bat to go back to sleep at its original position if i am out of range...just as i felt it a bit messy to have him flying about still!...but if people would rather i left him flying then thats no problem either.

@All: Just seen the first concept shots from our level designer and my smile is HUGE...this guy is great and by the looks of things we will have some great things to show within a month !


<EDIT>
IMPORTANT
I just wanted to run this idea by you guys before myself and 'Pudbawl' (the level designer) start work, would you rather we started on the actual game levels or the demo ones... i can still release a demo it just wont be a complete game....The advantage of not having the seperate demo means we can start on the actual game now and that means more content !

If you are ok with this please say and also which levels you would like to see in what order, i currently have the first sketches for the first castle and diamondus levels

I hope your ok with this move.

[Sonyk]

Well, the Jazz2 shareware was a bunch of new levels... Either way, that sounds good, especially with the J3DCS (or whatever you'll call it), so we can get started too.

[Baggers]

Cool, thought you might like a pic of some old friends...two carrot type scenery pieces, im trying to learn some modeling at the moment so this is my first real attempt at them, and critic is welcome !...Ive just upgraded DarkbasicPro, and so ive been gettin the game working again, however the good thing is that the file size of the exe's is megs less so demos should be smaller filesize from now on.

Oh heres that pic !
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Carrot.jpg

<EDIT>
Done some more !
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/ModelsWIP.jpg

[Stijn]

Why is that less-high carrot orange instead of purple as on the screenshot?

For the rest, it looks nice.

[Baggers]

As i wanted the version to be for the day shots, as apposed to the darker levels later on. Thanks for the comments

[DoubleGJ]

The purple one is not a carrot, it's a beet.

[Baggers]

Oh !...in that case ill have to change it ! hehe im a dumbass sometimes !

[cooba]

I got to see majority of Jungle's tiles redrawn. Whee.

[Baggers]

Good point, will have to have a go at some of them soon!

[Stormie]

You really coming along baddgers. I really wanna see how this turns out in the end.

[Baggers]

Hehe not another one who calls me 'badgers' ! (or in this case 'baddgers' !)
Thanks though, i hope you'll like the game when its done.

[Stormie]

What, do you like being called something else? :)

[Olsen]

What, do you like being called something else? :)
Baggers, right Baggers?

[LittleFreak]

The beet looks a bit wrong, the green part should be more in front.

Other than that, nice. :)

I was more for making the demo first, so people can play it and tell you what they like and don't like.

That way, the actual game turns out better, no?

[Baggers]

Oh therell be beta editions, its just we would like to get right into the level design. The thing is I finally have a commited modeler by the looks of it and hes doing some great stuff so to get the most we can from it we are developing the actual game.

[LittleFreak]

So you will be releasing beta versions of the actual game?

[cooba]

If most of the game companies do, why couldn't he?

[Baggers]

Yep, but its a while yet...sorry this drags out , theres just so much to code !
And model...which is why im trying to get my hands dirty on that too !

<EDIT>

Oh good news though, the new update for DBpro allows for very accurate and fast shadow generation so hopefully i can get that incorperated on jazz....and it will look great with the model. Hare is still working on it so I hear, and im so looking foreward to the result !

[Baggers]

Hey people, ive been experimenting with shadows and the results are looking very nice.
However till saturday i will unfortunatly not be gracing these forums as I am hikinh 100km to raise money for my Gap year. So that means no updates from me !
however at request from a member of this forum i thought id post up a WIP video of a level, its in very early Beta remember and so does not have trees and such yet, buts its only a rought 3d sketch. Hope you like !
http://www.themillerhood.com/jazz/movies/flythroughNoWire.wmv

Seeya soon guys !

[LittleFreak]

Reminds me on Tonic Trouble. =o

Anyways, see ya on Saturday. =)

[Baggers]

Im back !...i walked 100km in 3 days with a 60 pound pack...and im now very achy !
But im in the mood for some more work so ill have a see what im gona do next !
*also downloading razz arena, looks cool !*

[DoubleGJ]

Welcome back.

[Olsen]

Welcome back.

[Baggers]

Little Dragonfly piccy...wings work fine, ive had some trouble with the tail and legs so ill re-do that another time.
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/DragonFly.jpg

[Sonyk]

If memory serves, only the wings moved in Jazz2, but that'd be pretty cool to get the tail and legs moving.

Oh, and pageclaim in the name of... long walks.

[Baggers]

http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/newSpazImages/badguys/dragonfly.gif
thats the reference pic i used and the legs and tail appear to move.

Ugh...long walks...ive had enough of those for a while, at least it raised some money !

[LittleFreak]

The eyes are a little too big and the wings shouldn't have sharp edges. Otherwise it's fine. :)

[Sonyk]

Then, memory does not serve! I can't wait to see the enemies in action. Hopefully soon...

[Baggers]

The wing come out curved in the actual game as the black become transparent, and ill have a look at shrinking those eyes.
Thanks for the help !

[LittleFreak]

No problem. :)

[n00b]

Oh oh! Whilst you shrink the eyes could you also add a pink nose? I noticed that was missing in yout model.

[Baggers]

Oh yeah, good point will do !

Oh the turtle now makes noises !

*EDIT*
Just a little vid to show the WIP dragonfly in game, its only a 4 second clip but its also only 236kb big !

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Jazz3d-Video08.avi

Enjoy !

[Olsen]

Nice. What's that white thing appering to the left in the end of the video?

[Baggers]

The untextured turtle , hes patrolling the area

[Olsen]

Ok.

[Baggers]

For those interested here the untexture turtle sliding along his patrol points, Upto 8 points can be set, in this instance i have only used 4, you can see the dragonfly again in the background !
960kb this time.
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Jazz3d-Video09.avi

[Sun Fun Dude]

Models looking good, hope the turtle gets a nice skin ;)

[Baggers]

@Sun Fun Dude: hehe me too !

@All: The dragonfly's eyes have been shrunk and the pink nose added...aww that nose is cute !

[LittleFreak]

Both videos look pretty good. http://images.bravenet.com/common/images/smilies/2_smile.gif

When you make the turtle though, you should make a change-direction animation.

[Baggers]

How would you like it ?
1) the turtle stands still and turs on the spot
2) the turtle doesnt stop walking just the corners of his walk are smoother

[Olsen]

I vote for the first option.

[Baggers]

Ok sounds good !

Oh ive got the Sparky's animated, just have to do the electric effect around them now!

[LittleFreak]

I vote for number one aswell.

[Olsen]

Ok sounds good !

Oh ive got the Sparky's animated, just have to do the electric effect around them now!

My vote is that that will look awesome. Keep it up!

[Baggers]

Got that modeling urge again so had a go at Jazz and Spaz's guns, other than the lack of texture what do you think ?

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/GunsWip.jpg

[cooba]

Looks pretty accurate.

(Where'd you get that Spaz pic from?)

[Olsen]

Love them. Same question as Cooba.

[Baggers]

It appears when you exit the OEM game.
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/OEMExit.jpg

Heres the textured guns
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/GunsTex.jpg

[Olsen]

Omg Cool. Awesome work on those guns too.

[n00b]

Seconding what Olsen said.
Hey, what version of OEM do you have?

[Baggers]

God knows, its on a cd that came with some hardware, I got it from a carboot sale years ago. The CD says its version 1.00

[Olsen]

I hope you splitted those guns up in two files so that they can be used :P

[n00b]

God knows, its on a cd that came with some hardware, I got it from a carboot sale years ago. The CD says its version 1.00
If you look on the bottom left corner(or was it right?) in the menu, it should say.

[Baggers]

Oh yeah, i made them seperatly i just put them together to show them off !

[Olsen]

Ok nice. =D

[Sun Fun Dude]

My god, this stuff is awesome! Keep it up!

[DoubleGJ]

Really detailed, Piet's models don't stand a chance.

[LittleFreak]

Nice work, really. :)

[Sacrush]

I like everything what you made so far. I really wanna see the full version

[Baggers]

Im so looking foreward to getting the models in, im just waiting on Hares jazz model at the mo .
Going to have a bash at the targeting system soon, ive never coded one of those before so should be fun !

[Olsen]

Keep it up! :)

[piet]

Really detailed, Piet's models don't stand a chance.
i dont take that as an insult cource i did not make the model. Epic Megagames did.
i am gonna remodel a lot of models in Razz Arena when the Core is done.

maybe i will use Baggers models :P

[piet]

Im so looking foreward to getting the models in, im just waiting on Hares jazz model at the mo .
Going to have a bash at the targeting system soon, ive never coded one of those before so should be fun !

yea i am looking forward to that model to, its nice but yet low poly to keep it simple.

[Baggers]

Yeah i hear that.
maybe i will use Baggers models :P
Wow id be honoured !...im not sure what kind of poly count youd be looking for though, but if you want any mode ive shown just ask and ill mail it to you.
That goes for anyone by the way!

*EDIT*

Just a few extra bits before i leave jazz for the night, first a pic showing the high quality shadows being incorperated into the game, they will be used sparingly to conserve speed however jazz is definately getting one, this will help alot when it comes to judging jump distances and landings.
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Shadows.jpg

And secondly a tiny video 210kb, showing a dancing mushroom WIP, currently its too high Poly count
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/DancingShroom.avi

Enjoy folks !

[LittleFreak]

The mushroom video is nice, though should move a little less to the left or right, if you ask me.

Nice shadows too. :)

[Olsen]

Very nice indeed. I think you should make it move a little less to the left and right me too.

[Baggers]

Will do !

[Sacrush]

good job. O+

[Baggers]

Well a beta is finally on the way folks, i'm trying to get all the different bits ive done so far in one demo so im trying to knock up a level while they other guy is making the real levels, so yep it will look a bit crappy but its still about time you got to play the game so far !
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Screen_1.jpg

This is the first screeny showing the fire effects and a bridge to another island, you have to ride a flying fruit to get there. Oh the orange thing is a carrot.
Im getting back to getting some small details into the game and hopefully some more weaponry !
Seeya all soon !

p.s. Im Hoping to get the jazz model that is being used for Razz arena to put in for the Beta until Hare finishes his model.

[Sacrush]

I cant wait ;p

[Baggers]

Little Update:
Weapon 8 (OEM version) is done its decribed as "Pepper spray is now mini fireballs. They are extremely powerful, and go through enemies, make cool sounds... they're great. "

Weapon 6 (Flame thrower !) is done too !...and is very cool, the flames rest on objects just like the original. I'll put up a video soon.

Oh jazz's face animation (for the HUD) is done but is a bit crappy a the mo so if anyone knows where a decent quality version is then id be most grateful.

Back soon !

[Baggers]

Targeting system working fully. Not sure whether to allow targeting of the flamethrower yet, obviously i havnt for the homing missiles.
Im going to look into a free target system, where you stand still and can aim by hand.

<EDIT>
Yay, great stuff here, 3 class screenies to show what ive been upto
The first 2 are the same shot but the first is spaz and the second Jazz

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Screen_2.jpg

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Screen_3.jpg

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Screen_4.jpg

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Screen_5.jpg

It's really coming together !

[Stijn]

But the textures are all so blurry :(

[Baggers]

On what ? ...the level or the characters?...if the level then yeah, ill some of fix that now !
Also remember these are Jpegs

[Stormie]

Do you have a Spaz player model yet, I know you have a Jazz (sort of). Plus how long till you incorparate player models?

[Baggers]

As soon as they are done !...im just waiting for that magic email from hare telling me jazz is done and ill put him in....spaz unfortunatly is another story, he hasnt been started yet

sers^^: well i scaled all the textures for you an to be honest it looks worse now :( as you can tell that the textures repeat...sorry level making just aint my fortay.

[Violet CLM]

Site updated, sorry it took forever.

[Olsen]

OMG Baggers! As I couldn't be on the computer yesterday I missed this! OMG GOOD JOB! :D

[DoubleGJ]

Yay, balls with guns. The beet still isn't fixed?

[Baggers]

?JSZ¿ JaZz!: Good point !...ill go fix that now !

Olsen: Thanks man !...i got your mail, cant wait to hear proper jazz sounds in your game !

Unknown Rabbit: Brilliant thanks!...hopefully ill have even more for you soon...a Beta prefrably

All: Just been working on the collision routines again...heavy stuff...got a bug sorted though...now im just waiting for the next one to crop up !

[Olsen]

Thanks for those sounds Baggers! It sounds great already ;)

[Baggers]

Olsen: No problem

All: Trigger point now work properly, there is a teleport zone hidden in the upcoming beta.

[Baggers]

Ok folks here is the video where i get to show that even though my modeling is a little crappy, my game is coming along well!...this video shows how far ive come from the first blaster firing...to the point where i can show off 5 weapons !
The file size is 7meg due to the fact this video has sound, which really adds to the impact in my mind!
Well i hope you enjoy it the file can be found here.

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Video_1.avi

As always it is DIV-X encoded, and if you need the latest drivers you can find them here.
http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/

Please tell me what you like and dont like ... other than prehaps the level and its textures as that is a bit obvious !

-EDIT-
What the hell!..have another screenshot...I title this one "look behind you"
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Screen_6.jpg

[Olsen]

Very nice. That target system looks cool.

After the video

OMG, the fire looks awesome! Keep it up! :D

[Sun Fun Dude]

Wow, looking to be awesome!

[Baggers]

Thanks, ive just been playing it, and fighting of a large cloud of very agressive Dragonflys !...they are fully working now, appart from sounds, im just going to play the original to rip the sound and look for any other tips on improving the movement.
Screenies coming very soon...prehaps a video too !

[Olsen]

Can't wait!

[Baggers]

Hehe, well the video files are uploading so ill give you the pic first. More info soon !
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Screen_7.jpg

[TaZaR]

That game looks great. :cool: I think I've came back for the community at good time. 8D

[Baggers]

-HE'S BACK-
Hey people im back !
This video comes in two flavors 'with sound' and 'without sound' just for those on slower connections.

The video shows me fighting 15 dragonflys in game with a variety of weapons, I havnt allowed them to hurt me yet as I needed a video where I actualy got a chance to kill them !
I feel targeting makes things a little too easy at the mo but then again i think when i get killed a few times i'll change my view !

Problems:
* No sky yet
* The dragonflys occasionaly go a little through the floor (easy fix)
* Targeting not fluid enough.

However all in good time!..heres the vids:
Without sound (2.9 Meg)
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Video_2_NS.avi

With sound (8.1 Meg) -but it's cooler !-
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Beta/Beta_Video_2_WS.avi

Please post your opinions, if theres anything that doesnt seem right or is different from the original please say, and i'll explain my reasons or fix it right away!

[n00b]

YEEEEEEE!!! VIDEOZ! Mmmyep, see thats the n00bish me. Somehow, a weekend riding horses is slowly reverting me back to my 12-year old self(who I despise now, I was REALLY stupid back then, despite my high IQ)
Oh and thanks for the no sound version, my computer is being retarded and won't properly play anything with sound off of your server.

[DarkJazz23]

DUDE!!! THIS ROCKS!!! I want to become like you too! I'll hep with whatever I can, just PM me or send an e-mail and I'll see what I can do for you!

[Olsen]

This. Is. So. Awesome. MAN THIS ROCKS!

[DarkJazz23]

WOWOWOWOW!!! Where did you learn all this stuff? I just saw the video, it rocks!
There is only one wrong thing, the ball is falling thru the ground a bit when standing on it. But it still rules! Looking forward to be able to play the whole version!

[Baggers]

Yeah, i got attacked so much that they knocked me through the floor !...crazy i know but ill fix it soon, gonna get bees working soon.

DarkJazz: You dont do any 3d modeling by any chance so you ?...other than that you could always join the art compotition, see my sig!

[LittleFreak]

I can't view those videos, I get an error message. :-/

Any special software I need?

I normally can view avi files though, I don't know what caused this.

[Olsen]

I can't view those videos, I get an error message. :-/

Any special software I need?

I normally can view avi files though, I don't know what caused this.

VideoLAN or VLC Player rocks. Download it. (Do a search on Google, I'm lazy ;p.)

[Baggers]

Um divX installed...thats all i thought was needed, i gave the link up a few posts

[LittleFreak]

Maybe it's just because my internet is incredibly slow today, I'll try it again tomorrow. ;)

But thanks anyways, to both.

[Baggers]

Oh you dont watch it in your browser...right click and save as...i dont think i can watch it in my browser either.

[LittleFreak]

Er.. ok, that could also be the reason.. ^__^;;

I'll watch it tomorrow, I don't have time right now.

[Sacrush]

I could not play the video with sound. Without sound it was possible. ;)

[R3ptile]

Just wondering, is your game played with a mouse?

[DarkJazz23]

Here are some questions:

1.Are you makin' a demo?
2.And will the game have an online feature?
3.Will there be updates after the game is released?
4.If I have DarkBasic® and practiced a lot, can we make a game together?

Lookin' forward to yee answers! Aaargh!

Your pirate matey DarkJazz23.

P.S.: O.k., that was about the most stupid reply ever right? For the ones who couldn't understand it:

Here are some questions:

1.Are u making a demo?
2.And will the game have an online feature?
3.Will there be updates after the game is released?
4.If I have purchased DarkBasic® and practiced a lot, can we make a game together?

Looking forward to your answers :)!

your (-) DarkJazz23.

[Please do not filter by yourself. Just enter the full word ant let the forum software take care of filtering it. -FQuist]

[LittleFreak]

http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/customavatars/avatar1974_2.gif

<s>Here is the avatar of someone I call Idiotdude. :P</s>

[Olsen]

I must say I dont like the idiotbot model. Try using more kinds of shapes.

[Olsen]

BTW: The Lori emoticon is not working!!!

We now. ;P :lori:

[LittleFreak]

I know nothing about modelling, but if a model takes you 10 minutes that's too less I guess. :P

And it doesn't show up for me.

[Stijn]

Open a new thread for your own stuff in the Art Forum please, DarkJazz. This thread is about Baggers' 3D JJ game, not about 3D modeling.

Though I think you have some potential. How long have you been messing around with 3D modeling?

[DarkJazz23]

I have a question Baggers:
Are you putting the game online (for download) or not?
Please also make a features list (If you haven't got one, cos if you have, I missed it), ok? Thnx!

DarkJazz23

[LittleFreak]

Of course he'll put it online for everyone to download, how else could someone get it otherwise?

G2G, bye!

(Ok, that made no sense at all)

If it makes no sense, then don't post it.

[Sacrush]

Darkjazz: please prevent double posts.

[Baggers]

Christ on a bike, i leave for a few hours and this happens !

Ok DarkJazz/IdiotJazz/whatever...PLEASE USE THE EDIT BUTTON...unless you mouse is broken and you have a touch screen and no fingers just huge club hands there is no reason not to use it. Also please dont ramble....I think the idea of your own thread in the art forum is a great idea ! please do that or your enthusiasm will swamp my thread.
Also regarding questions, i have a busy life aswell as doing the jazz game, please give me a few days to reply to you...if i havnt answered then, then post ONCE ! I am so anti spam and rule breaking its almost obsesive and one way to really put me off you is to break simple etiquete.

Ok rant over, now to the models, my criticism is that they dont look like the sprites from i game, thats all im looking for, acurate copies !...check out my turtle on a past page...i modeled it directly from the original sprites....if you check my first ever post i am going for the STYLE so i need the models to be fairly acurate....i hope im being explicit enough here.
But thankyou so much for your enthusiasm, it really does help...however its time to start your own thread !

Thanks all for your comments...make sure you visit darkjazz's thread to critic his work
Cya

[DoubleGJ]

He gets high on posts.

[DarkJazz23]

Ok ok, please all see http://www.Jazz3DFan.tk/ sometime! Thank you!
I'll open a model thread now! And I'll work on the sprite thingies to, and say something ONCE, ok? Adfirmitive!

[LittleFreak]

Thank you for your cooperation. You've saved Baggers from going mad.

[Baggers]

Gahhh....d,d,double p,posting AGIAIN !....RAGE BUILDING...-puts 3 morphene patches on face...rage subsiding..........calm.

Ok lets answer all those questions you wanted answering !

Q. Are you makin' a demo?
A. No, but a beta is on the way.

Q. And will the game have an online feature?
A. Nope thats out of my knowledge at the moment...i will study it at a later date though.

Q. Will there be updates after the game is released?
A. Probably..bug fixes and the like...though it will be difficult due to the reasons below

Q. If I have DarkBasic® and practiced a lot, can we make a game together?
A. In a word...No. I generaly like working on my own projects, but this is my last project for a while now and im determined to get it finished... all next year im teaching in uganda and though i may have some internet access it will be hard to get fixes and such done...so i doubt im coding for a while :( .

Q. is your game played with a mouse?
A: Nope, ive deliberatly tried not to....early on i did incorperate mouse control but it didnt feel raw enough....the free targeting will be mouse controled though.

features ? hmmm

Well.
Jazz and Spaz (Not modeled yet)
Jazz
===
Running
jumping
sprinting
superjump
stomping
copter ears
Shooting (see below)
Spaz
====
Running
jumping
sprinting
Double jump
stomping
Shooting (see below)

Shooting
======
Blaster
Boucers
Guided missiles
Flame thrower
Strange OEM blaster that fires through walls

Targeting
=======
A new feature but rather neccesary in 3D
Lock onto enemy
Switch between enemies
If in screen the gun points at the enemy and you can fire at will!

Scenery
======
Moving platforms
Ammo (though all ammo is unlimited currently)
fruit
Health carrots
Diamonds
Trampolines

Effects
=====
Awesome particle effects, very swish...handle fire, smoke, debry, the flame thrower etc

AI
==
Basic Turtle ...half complete
Bats .. complete but need a model
DragonFlys .. almost complete..just need to remoe bug that lets them fly through the floor and the one where they knock jazz underground !

Misc
===
A 3rd dimension !
Hud scales in all screensizes..no advantage from a higher resolution...other than looking crisper !

Um they may be a bit more but i cant think of it yet

Hope that answers some questions !

[Baggers]

Thats fine, thanks for removing your pics from here for now !...who knows they may end up in ingame screenshots anyway !
I wish i could send you pics of the model but im still waiting for it to be finshed !...else id have it in game by now.

[Olsen]

Nice! Send me the pics later too ;)

[Baggers]

No prob..just wait for Hare !...im having a bash at making spaz at the moment !...i got a basic human model and am slowly remodeling it into the spaz we know and love !

[Olsen]

Ah sounds really nice! :D Your older models make me excited about this!

[Stijn]

Couldn't you include mouse control as an optional option (8D)? I prefer mouse control for player movement above keyboard control, especially in 3D games.

[Baggers]

Hmm ill have a look...not yet though...after the first demo !

[Olsen]

Heh nice! I was wondering that too. (Goes and works on JazzSoldier and waits for more replies in the JS thread.)

[Baggers]

Ok here is a WIP of the Spaz model im working on, Still very WIP, i have to thank jonny for the human model it mad the basis for this attempt....any major flaws so far ?
My major priorities are to fix the jaw so it flows into the tufts of fur well..and to fix the seams between the fur and the face.

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/SpazWIP.jpg

Here is a comparison between my Spaz model and jonnys human model i started with !
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/Spaz-v-Man.jpg

[DarkJazz23]

Wow! Didn't know Milkshape was that good! If Mislkshape is like that, then MED is really stupid! I use MED... (Model Editor Dsomething).
Please take a look at the Models Topic from time to time, ok? Thank you! :)

[Baggers]

Milkshape can so pretty much anything a basic modeler needs, and covers more model formats than most other modelers...and its pretty cheap !
For video tutorials check here....by the way i havnt seen your thread yet.
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/blackboard/tutorials.htm

[LittleFreak]

Is that my imagination, or is his left arm a bit shorter than the other?

(especially in the second picture)

Other than that, it's fine. :)

EDIT:

And DarkJazz' thread is in the future of jazz forum, he somehow forgot to put it in Art it seems.

[Baggers]

Wow well spotted !...fixed !

Ok ill go check it out. thanks

[Olsen]

Very very nice! Keep it up! :D

[LittleFreak]

No problem, I help where I can. :D

[Baggers]

Ok I got the poly count down to 995 and fixed a few little graphical bugs...Ive now got to add a few more polys so animating will be neater and then texture him...before finally animating...wow this is a very different world to me !

p.s. The arm was fixed, the polys filled in on the tufts of fur, the body was shrunk a little as he looked very slightly to 'adult' in my earlier post.

Another pic, this a shiny render of our untextured hero.
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/SpazWIP2.jpg

[Violet CLM]

Legs should be a bit skinnier.

[DarkJazz23]

I think you need a little more fur on the arms and legs 'n stuff.

[Baggers]

Fur is difficult due to the face that it increases the polycount hugely, im going to se if i can do without modeling to much more fur and just texure it on.

What im worried about at the mo is the back of jazz, especially the head, im just not sure its quite right, what do you think ?

[Sun Fun Dude]

I'm pretty sure you can have around 2700 polys.

[Baggers]

I could but every poly is a risk of slowing down the game...tell you what...I may make a high poly version after this, just a few aditions you could set in the options menu.

By the way, are any of you out there good with art packages?...and if so could you have a bash at making Spaz's fur?
This is one of the pics im using to get inspiration, just so you can see what the fur looks like.
http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/OEMExit.jpg
Thanks people!

-EDIT-
Well i was dying to see how he would look so i put him in game with a plain red texture, the shadows worked well as usual, and with a bit of gun repositioning he was ready !

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/SpazWIPinGame.jpg

[Olsen]

Hehe, nice one. I can't wait for animations. And about the texture, how big should it be?

[Baggers]

the bigger the better i guess, i can make it smaller if i need to, if you could help that would be great !

[Olsen]

I don't really know how to make textures so I dunno. :P

[piet]

just dropping this link to what Dean Dodrill once sayd:
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?p=112669#post112669

maybe when the models are totaly done we can mail them to Epic.
maybe it will trigger them to do someting of there own

[Sun Fun Dude]

just dropping this link to what Dean Dodrill once sayd:
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?p=112669#post112669

maybe when the models are totaly done we can mail them to Epic.
maybe it will trigger them to do someting of there own

Whatever happened to Noogy and his site anyway? Oh and emailing Epic telling them that you've used their IP will get you a cease and desist warning or something of the like. Not really a good idea.

[DarkJazz23]

I sent something to Epic a little time ago, the e-mail address is Admin@Epicgames.com I believe!

[Stijn]

May I suggest everyone who's gonna make textures to make them in an as high resolution if possible? That way they won't be all blurry and such ingame.

[Baggers]

Definately.
When i do release jazz i will probably email one of the old creators just to let 'em know that their definative creation hasnt been forgoten !

[DarkJazz23]

I emailed them about your effort too!

[LittleFreak]

May I remind you that Epic doesn't care about Jazz?

[Baggers]

Yeah darkjazz please dont do that the last thing i need is action taken against me !...id try get message to someone from the original team.
But that is a long way off. lets just leave epic be shall we !?!

[Olsen]

Yeah darkjazz please dont do that the last thing i need is action taken against me !...id try get message to someone from the original team.
But that is a long way off. lets just leave epic be shall we !?!

I agree. Darkjazz, maybe you should slow down and ask Baggers before doing something like that? :7

[DarkJazz23]

I haven't posted his name, it was even before I knew of this game, I emailed tham about people developing new game updates and stuff, and that there were fans all around here, I did not name you specific!

[Baggers]

Hmm i might have to admit defeat to my spaz model...ive just come up to animating him and so many polys are out of place due to reduction that i just dont know how to fix it :( ... (-)(-)(-)(-).

Im going to crawl the web some more for assistance !

[LittleFreak]

Fawriel has just commented on your Spaz model in the other thread, which should probably be able to help you a little.

Also, I've read there is a demo available, which I missed it seems, could you give me a link?

[Baggers]

This is a quote straight from a previous page.


*Uploading the system test now*

*A little Info while its uploading*
Ok so this is the first little demo to wet your appetite.
The camera is at a fixed distance from jazz who slowly turns left constantly throughout the demo. (the next one will have full control)
You cant move the camera but you can shoot both the blaster and the Blue bouncers
(use 1 to select blaster, 2 for the bouncers)
You can jump, space is regular jump, down and space is super jump and pressing space once jazz has reached jump jump height starts the 'copter ears'...which is rather dull in this demo as it just means he falls slower as he doesnt have a body yet let alone ears !
Also there s only some background music for company...but hey its a start.

Oh also its control key to shoot.

The file is 8.61 meg, and is a zip file, so just unzip it and run the file called "JazzSystemTest.exe"...or something similar...its the only '.exe' in the zip so you cant miss it.

It will be done uploading shortly!

*HERE IT IS*
=========

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzSystemCheck.zip

The Frames per second is writen in the corner, press '+' to set the frame rate to unlimited to see how fast your computer can run the demo.
Pressing '-' sets the framerate back to 60 (though it hovers between 60 & 70)

=========

Any problems or suggestions just post em here !


Its generaly intended as a test to see what speed it ran on your machine.
Its pretty out of date now and you cant run around...only jump, shoot, pick either of two weapons, watch the effects !

Enjoy !

[LittleFreak]

"Page was not found..."

Horray. ;D

[Baggers]

http://www.unseenconcept.net/JazzJackRabbit/JazzSystemCheck.zip
There ye go !

[Fawriel]

Well, I finally caught up on stuff.
..okay, I didn't really READ all the posts, just looked at pictures, watched videos, added n00b to my MSN list, etc.
But DANG.
This project just keeps rocking more and more!
I swear, I may not know any modelling or anything, but if you ever need an artist for anything here, just tell me, I was going to practice the JJ2 style anyway!
*notes down to make that title screen soon, too*

Oh, and it might be good if you added milestones like that demo to the first post of the thread so people wouldn't have to search the hundreds of pages here.

[Baggers]

Thanks !
Glad youve got windows now, did you get a new computer ?

[LittleFreak]

Downloading.

[LittleFreak]

Cool stuff. :D

Highest possible FPS: 273.

[Olsen]

Cool but old stuff :P

[Fawriel]

Thanks !
Glad youve got windows now, did you get a new computer ?
No, I've got both OSes on one computer...
I can't play the demo, though.. ^^;;
Looks like there's trouble with my graphics card..

[Violet CLM]

Oh, and it might be good if you added milestones like that demo to the first post of the thread so people wouldn't have to search the hundreds of pages here.
http://www.tachyonlabs.com/sam/baggers/download.html
*cough*

[Fawriel]

Yeah, well, or that.

[piet]

just dropping the link to baggers new site:
http://www.eckhart.da.ru/baggers/

oh did you know its his birthday???

happy birthday to baggers