Small problem, I cannot play online and thinga, this may have been postedbefore. I cannpt join, it says error connecting to list servers, but i have the patch and i used it. My computer is linked to my dad's, and he has a firewall on his, but not on mine. My system is cable, bell sympatico. I know how to join and host, but when i hosted and stuff, in my notebook it said "Cannot resolve hostname for the list server jazz.logicware.com and stuff. I checked the list servers, they were up. I have no idea why that wouldnt work. If you people tell me i need to open ports 10052-10054 on my router, i have a question, where the hello do you find the button or place you do that. Im not sure of my router system and things. I asked my dad, he doesnt know either.....

It looks like you have a DNS server misconfiguration if you can't resolve jazz.logicware.com.

How are the computers linked? Is it a home network with a hub\switch\router? Or is it some internet connection sharing thing?

Check the IP address of your computer. In Windows 9x, run "winipcfg" and in Windows 2K\XP, run "ipconfig" from a command prompt. If the IP address is 192.168.y.x, your router should be accessible in a web browser by http://192.168.y.1 or 192.168.y.0

Ask your dad who set up the network and where the router manual is, as well as the way the computers are connected.

If your router dynamically assigns addresses with DHCP, your DNS server should be set properly, but if your network uses static IP addresses, you have to manually set the DNS server(s) to either the address of your router or the actual address of your ISP's DNS servers.

Do you notice problems with any other network aspects on this computer?

1. Yes, it is a homenetwork that connects the computers.
2. My dad wont tell me where the manual is, he thinks that you are going to haxor me
3. The cable internet we have we are sharing it, as well as the printer.
4. No, i dont notice any other problems with other Network aspects.

Hope that will help, i will try to figure out more about the problem, as well as finding my router. Ill keep you informed. Thanks in Advance

Oh, and I do have Sympatico DSL for my internet.btw
Dont know how that helped....still dunno where mah router is..
Ill go try to find it *searches for router around house*

Well do you even know for sure if you have a router? Because if you don't, you might be on completely the wrong track.

As I said in my other message, check your IP address according to my directions and try going to the router address in your browser. Even if you physically find your router, you can't configure it like that. You have to configure it through its web browser interface.

Try going to these links and see if you get anything:

http://192.168.1.1
http://192.168.2.1
http://192.168.1.0
http://192.168.2.0

If you get a login screen or a login dialog, you're in luck. Most routers have no username, and a default password of either "admin" or blank.

And if your dad is worried about me hacking you, I can't unless I know your external IP address (which you shouldn't give me, or anyone, just out of principle). Your internal IP is inaccessible by me, because it is reserved for local networks (so if you said it was 192.168.2.102 for example, and I tried going to that address, it would go to a computer on my network with that IP). The only reason I want to know your internal IP is so that I can help you find the address of your router.

Ok, link, i ran that winipcfg and found my IP adress
I typed it in the adress box, and got a box that said cannot connect to ip adress, error 10061...

You'll notice in my first post I said:

Check the IP address of your computer. In Windows 9x, run "winipcfg" and in Windows 2K\XP, run "ipconfig" from a command prompt. If the IP address is 192.168.y.x, your router should be accessible in a web browser by http://192.168.y.1 or http://192.168.y.0

So check your IP in winipcfg, and go in a web browser to your IP except replace the last number with a 1 or a 0 and put an http:// at the beginning.

I did do that and replace the last number with a 0 or 1. When i replaced it with a 1, i got error 10061, andwhen i replaced it with 0 i got error 10049.


*sigh*

Ok...what browser are you using? And is there text in the error, or just the number?

The error message said

Error Message_________________________

Cannot connect to (enter IP adress here)....Error 10049

I dun think this has anything to do with my borwser though

Well it does, because I've never seen an error message like that in my browser before. What browser are you using? (for the second time)

In Internet Explorer there is just a "Cannot find server" page when it can't connect to a server. Are you sure you are accessing this through your web browser?

I have internet explorer 5, if im not mistaken. Yes, im sure im accesing through my browser, even right now i can type my IP in and it'll lead to that error.

I found out another thingthat might help. Im sure i need to replace the last number with a 1. I typed in my IP and replaced the last number with a 1, and got to the error 10061. Hope that helped, even though i feel as if i will never play online again....

Also try replacing it with a 0. Routers usually only use 1 or 0.

Do you have any idea what kind of router you have? Some obscure ones might have software configuration, but you'll really need to see the manual to use that.

I also want to make sure you are actually on a normal network. Can you post the first two numbers of your IP address?

Sure link, they are 1 and 9. Yes, I tried replacing it with a 0, but im just saying im SURE its with a 1. As for the type of router, ill need to speak with my father for knowledge on that.

Does the IP start with 192.168?

Actually, what you should do is check the address of your DHCP server in winipcfg. That should be the address of your router.

Yes, link, it does start with 192.168

BTW, the box that said DHCP was empty...........
Hmmm.....

As for the router, where exactly does it tell you what type it is
(sorry im not as old as you ppl, im not MR.Genius y'know)

Wait, is there such thing as an Ethernet ISA Adapter. vs 2.50.4 router, if it is i think that maybe the one i have, if there isnt im way off track

"Ethernet ISA Adapter" is your network card. Where are you seeing this?

Anyway, I can't help you much more until you get the router manual or at least find out what kind of router you have. We've tried all the usual solutions, and the router isn't found, so it is probably some weird setup.

For the list server problem, you may want to revisit the patch (make sure you get the right one). Also try a simple test to see if your computer can connect to it: Click Start->Run, and type "telnet jazz.logicware.com 10057". If it connects, you might not have the DNS problem and you'll just need to make sure you have the list server patch.

But you will have to find out how to configure your router because you have to forward ports to play JJ2.

I found the name in the winipcfg box. When i opened winipcgf, there was a small box at the top right that said that, under it it said adapter adress, ip adress and subnet mask. As well as default gateway which was blank.

I think i do have a DNS problem, in fact, im sure. In winipcfg, i clicked more info:

Host name:
DNS servers:
Node type:
Netbios scope id:
IP routing enabled........check
Netbios resolution uses DNS......check
WINS proxy enabled........nope
Underneath there was a box filled with info about ethereak adapter. I will ask my father for the manual when he gets home. Thnx

BTW. i did get the right patch. Before my computer was linked with my dad's, the patch worked fine and i was able to play

Oh, and the spaces i left blank beside the host and DNS server and all those, they are actually filled in, but i think if i give those away, someone could hack me so....

No, they can't, because you are behind a network. It would be really helpful if you posted them. You cannot be hacked from a hostname unless it ends with a real domain (like .com, .net, etc.) The only reason I want them is because I am trying to visualize the structure of your network.

And a DNS server is what your computer connects out to to resolve addresses. There is no way you can be hacked from that.

Did you try the telnet thing? Because that will tell you whether it is a DNS problem, a firewall problem, or a JJ2 problem. Please do that before you post again.

Yes i did, and the file was not found, so i couldnt run it. Im sorry if im getting on your nerves, but im doing my best so far. Heregoes:

Host name: SVZ.TECHNO
DNS SERVER: 192.168.0.1
Node type: Broadcast
netbios scope id:empty
IP routing enabled, Netbios resolution uses DNS enabled, winproxy not enabled
ETHERNET ADAPTER INFO
Adapter adress:00-40-05-59-B0-9A
IP adress: blah blah blah, just a bit differebt from the DNS
The rest are empty

Telnet was not found? Weird...do a windows find for "telnet.exe". Telnet is installed standardly for TCP\IP configurations. What OS do you have?

The DNS server in this case is the address of your router. If you can't access a configuration page from this link, http://192.168.0.1 , you have a very strange router and you will need the manual.

Whats an OS?

I have a very strange router......i NEED the manual

I found telnet.exe, now what

i tried to connect to jazz.logicware.com on telnet, but it said

Could not open a connection to jazz.logicware.com, i wonder why....

OS means Operating System. Like Windows XP, 98 SE, 95, etc.

I'm pretty sure it is not a DNS problem, because you can access websites and everything. I think what is happening is your router is blocking the ports that JJ2 requires, both outgoing and incoming (usually it just blocks incoming).

There is a possibility that the other computer on your network is acting as the router and you don't actually have a real one at all. If this is the case, you need to find out what software it is using and how to configure it. I can't help you with that, so you absolutely need to ask your dad what the network configuration is. We aren't 100% sure that you have a router, but we know that something is blocking the ports you need.

Try disabling the firewall on the other computer, and see what happens. Also try playing JJ2 on that computer. Try the telnet experiment on that computer. If it works, I'm pretty sure that you have a computer acting as a router and not an actual hardware router.

Windows 98=OS

I will go try now, thanks ill post again tomorrow (11:44pm, getting kinda sleepy)

Oh and btw, i dobnt have an actual router, the other compouter id acting as one

My dad oepned ports 10052-10057 on his firewall, but i still cant connect... I can play jj2 fine on theother computer, even online, but not on this one. And the other computer needs a password to get into, which my dad keeps secret

Im going to ask my dad to confihure a router on my computer, because i dont get it. My dad's computer is the router, when i play jj2 on his computer, i connect fine, but on my computer, i get errors connecting all the time!?ER3%?#%?#T?$G
Why?

What he needs to do is to forward those ports (10052-10057) to your computer. Just opening them will only allow access on his computer.

Well, after finally getting around to trying it, my dad needs to know from where do you forward these ports from. After this, i think my problem will be fixed.

I don't know anything about your setup (like what sharing software you're using). I can't tell you how to, but just what to do.

You need to forward ports 10052-10054 from the external internet connection to the computer you want to play JJ2 on. You also need to open ports 10052-10057 in the firewall so that you can access the server list.

Again, I don't know how to do this. I can find out if you tell me what software you're using, but it may be easier to look in the documentation.

Anywayz, before this goes of the list, just to say me and my dad are working on the problem and it may or may not get fixed, he's not here right now and I dont know much information about his computer, ill ask him some questions when he gets back. Thnx for your help everyone link.

I did an expirement, i played jj2 from my dads computer. But jj2 ISNT registered on my dad's computer, its in the shared folder. So i i opened the ports on the firewall, and i played online, but i timed out every 30 sec.....And i stil couldnt play on my computer. Just some info thats all, ill try figuring this out more tomorrow, as for the software, my dad says its "Proxy Server" but im not usre if he is correct or not. Hope that helped