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Thumbs up To the future... Read this everyone.

I've been addicted to UT right now, and as you know, most FPS can have MODs.

Well, I present you...

J3C4UT

Jazz 3 Conversion For Unreal Tournament.

Basically, a conversion from UT, to Jazz 3. Possible? Yes.

I'm looking for people that are interested in UT + Jazz, and that they can use Unreal Editor quite well.

For those who don't know UT,

We'll be converting. Hold on



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It sounds possible... but didnt they make the JJ2 engine with Unreal and it CAUSES mAjOr LaG? . Find another engine wit no lag or very little.
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The JJ3 engine is made from Unreal.

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I was thinking about JJ3 => UT MOD conversion some time ago but as I looked jazz (in mech viewer) I saw he doesn't have all the animations needed for UT so we'd need to make them first. And some more weapons for a mod maybe?
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Hmmm. Very interesting.
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Quite illegal
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thats real true.. but the JJ3 to UT Mod makes sense.
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Without Epic's permission, yes, this is 100% illegal. But it's still an interesting, albeit legally dumb, idea.
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Forget UT, use UT2003. ;P
Illegal to use characters directly, but original rabbits, in a VERY similar universe, with VERY similar weapons...
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We could just use other furries!
Phoenix has a whole palette of characters in her gallery.
And she isn't the only one!
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RFF

Tehehehehe.

Let's call the characters Jazzerous and Loriuos and stuff. Lol.

Has anyone got any ideas? Post them here.

A list of people working on it so far

Me: BOSS. FEAR ME. MWAHAHHAHA.
defalcon: "Leave me out of the list. I may suck at modelling"
Disguise: Textures creator (Tilesets for UT basically)

Beta-testers
SliM, Deadlock

Also, we're deciding whether to have it as a UT 2003 mod or start it on UT... hmm

Anyway, anyone who wants to ask Epic if this is okay, go ahead [the copyright characters etc]

Well. I'm too lazy.. it's too early in the morning..

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UT2003, no doubt there..
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Normal im against illegal stuff... but really what are they going to do? No one takes credit for it.. they have nothing to do against us... even if they are not that lazy to even come after the makers... its not like were making money off it so they arnt losing anything either... Ahh well A TC (Total Conversions) are about 3x Harder to make then normal mods because your changing the whole coding of the game to make it the way you want... well i would like to be in on this i could do animation for 3d modeling...
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Go go go go Red!










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There are Metroid mods for UT, there are MegaMan X mods for UT, there are Dragon Ball Z mods for Quake, but when someone comes with the idea to create a Jazz mod, it won't be made because it is 'illegal'!? Wooh, I am so scared of Epic..they might come over to my house and shoot me with a rifle! Serious now, I don't see the problem. Heck, if the mod was made, there is also a possibility Epic wants to release this to boost Jazz's popularity..and to add some variety to Unreal Tournament!
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I like the idea. I dobut Epic would care.
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SO LET'S ASK SOME UT FANS TO DO IT!
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Normal im against illegal stuff... but really what are they going to do? No one takes credit for it.. they have nothing to do against us... even if they are not that lazy to even come after the makers... its not like were making money off it so they arnt losing anything either... Ahh well A TC (Total Conversions) are about 3x Harder to make then normal mods because your changing the whole coding of the game to make it the way you want... well i would like to be in on this i could do animation for 3d modeling...
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RFF

I have dial up. > : )

Or.. we could do something else.. like original characters etc.
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I have not played any unreal game, but if it has something to do with Jazz, I'm all for it.



BTW, if it says original characters, can we use our own Jazz characters? (I E Acid, Moonblaze, etc.)
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Talking RFF

No.

I thought about using Jazz characters such as I dunno, Moonblaze, etc. But, then, people would be annoyed with us for not putting them in. I thought I might be able to create a program later to help make custom skins etc... right now, the project is paused. We're waiting for UT 2003 to come out.

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Sounds fun, I'm up for it. Where can you get it though?
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There are Metroid mods for UT, there are MegaMan X mods for UT, there are Dragon Ball Z mods for Quake, but when someone comes with the idea to create a Jazz mod, it won't be made because it is 'illegal'!? Wooh, I am so scared of Epic..they might come over to my house and shoot me with a rifle! Serious now, I don't see the problem. Heck, if the mod was made, there is also a possibility Epic wants to release this to boost Jazz's popularity..and to add some variety to Unreal Tournament!
Well, some of the DBZ mods for Q3 ran into legal problems and nearly got shut down.
Oh, Splash posted? I thought you'd left.
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UT2003, no doubt there..
no, have it be on UT. my video card (geforce 2MX 32MB) is too slow to run UT2003 or U2. HAVE IT BE ON UT!
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[B]No.

I thought about using Jazz characters such as I dunno, Moonblaze, etc. But, then, people would be annoyed with us for not putting them in.
hold a tournament like jdc, the top ten get to be in it, the best will get to be the heroes, the others will be bad guys
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No.

That would be unfair on the others... I'll try to make as much models/skins as possible, have a requested page. In the end though, it will be based on different characters not,

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hold a tournament like jdc, the top ten get to be in it, the best will get to be the heroes, the others will be bad guys
Nah,way too unfair(especially since I can't play online...)!
IF this was going to happen,there should be some kind of a poll including the most popular Jazzers and let the community choose!
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RFF

Well.. as I said before, MAKE YOUR OWN FOOLS
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If they get hold of your IP (from geocities if you host it there or from your own hosted site or whatever) they can simply contact your ISP. Boom name, number, street. Everything. Go from there.
What are they going to do..? **** ill freaking host it for everyone if they want i dont give a crap if epic tries to sue me lol.. they have nothing against me... "All i did was host a file i didnt know it was illegal" The creation team wouldnt be found so who gives a ****
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No there should not be anyone named anything about jazz 2 players.. It should keep Jazz , Spaz and u can be diffrent colors... I could start a mod like this easy for HL but not UT
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What about Lori?
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hold a tournament like jdc, the top ten get to be in it, the best will get to be the heroes, the others will be bad guys
Wouldn't be very fair. ;P
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no, have it be on UT. my video card (geforce 2MX 32MB) is too slow to run UT2003 or U2. HAVE IT BE ON UT!
Get a better comp...the UT engine is aging and too old. Ut2003 is the most advanced engine on the market to date (with karma physics!) and has greater mod support.
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Would they have a liscense on Razz?
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Well, some of the DBZ mods for Q3 ran into legal problems and nearly got shut down.
Oh, Splash posted? I thought you'd left.
That;s right, DBZ Bid For Power got 'cancelled', and after that the creators switched to non-existing characters. If a Jazz mod runs into the same problems, then it is better to use non-existing characters, as you mentioned before...

Just because I don't play Jazz anymore doesn't mean I am not allowed to come running into the Tavern and start kicking people in the nuts
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Who CARES if a Jazz MOD is illegal. Heck, in other communities (coughEarthboundcough) they ENCOURAGE making things like MODS based on it, or even whole new games. They HACK their game's programming! And that's only one example. And I have a huge collection of ROMS and shared files. If Nintendo or SEGA can't/won't do anything, why would Epic?
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Who CARES if a Jazz MOD is illegal. Heck, in other communities (coughEarthboundcough) they ENCOURAGE making things like MODS based on it, or even whole new games. They HACK their game's programming! And that's only one example. And I have a huge collection of ROMS and shared files. If Nintendo or SEGA can't/won't do anything, why would Epic?
Their hacked roms are illegal, end of story. ;P And Epic seems slightly more testy than they do. 'Tis easy for them if they needed to, afaik.
Oh, and besides, if you don't care if it's illegal and want to continue, do it somewhere else, this board doesn't condone illegal activity.
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Umm I have the BID FOR POWER mod with the DBZ charaters before it got relased its quite good i love it!
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Why we just dont make Jazz Charakters with a bit other style and a other name That wont be copyright anymore for Epic
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The Engine will be. The Unreal Tournament engine is owned by Epic. You can't escape 'em.
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Umm I have the BID FOR POWER mod with the DBZ charaters before it got relased its quite good i love it!
You mean release candidate version? Go download version 1.2 and get Rodney's DBZ pack. ;P
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