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What about adding *.rar archived files to the uploadable file types?
Here are some points why to:

You can Make parts out of an archive which's over the j2o upload limit (2MB)

You can use about 30 settings to edit how to compress your archive (like picture compression, text compression, make parts, format target disk, make a progressive archive (solid), add auto run command after extracting...)

And The Most important thing for j2o:

Higher Compression Quality (up to 35% more compression as Win Zip!!!! )

Download Win Rar Here

Now: What do you think about that?
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Because winzip is alot more supported? Besides level files are 2 or 3 kb anyhow
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It would add a lot of confusing.

ZIP is a standard, all new versions of Windows has ZIP support straight out of the box.

Although RAR is better compression, it would cause confusing and difficulty with a lot of unexperienced users.
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I prefer staying to zip. It doesn't matter for me if my download time is 3 or 4 seconds...
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(-), of course we should use RAR too =S

Afterall winRAR > Winzip
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Originally Posted by sonictth
What about adding *.rar archived files to the uploadable file types?
Here are some points why to:

You can Make parts out of an archive which's over the j2o upload limit (2MB)

You can use about 30 settings to edit how to compress your archive (like picture compression, text compression, make parts, format target disk, make a progressive archive (solid), add auto run command after extracting...)

And The Most important thing for j2o:

Higher Compression Quality (up to 35% more compression as Win Zip!!!! )

Download Win Rar Here

Now: What do you think about that?
Why do you think there's a size limit in the first place? The auto run command after extraction could cause problems (batch execution etc) and the other features are mostly useless. As Shadow said, for level files the compression rate doesn't matter much and music and such will still stay big because the files are compressed in their unrar-ed or unzipped form already.

And if it's because you think WinRAR is better than WinZip, you can use WinRAR to uncompress ZIP files too. gg?

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I agree with Flash, and .zip files are also my option, just because it's more supported, you know, even WindowsXP can open them...
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I would say RAR is better, and should be added.
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I'd prefer RAR over zip greately, and would want it added to the site.
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I'd go for RAR support even though I never download anything.

The idea of splitting up archives larger than 2MB on J2O probably isn't a good one, but that's not RAR specific anyway.
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I do not think that RAR files are necessary for J2O right now, compression may be better but it is not as standard or fast as a zip file. Now, the real problem with RAR files is that we would not be able to figure out the file contents like we currently do with zip files (a feature I put together and love ). While there is PHP RAR code it is not installed on the current server. RAR support will not happen without losing more important features like seeing contents of the zipped file.
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Bobby, did you created that "file looking" script yourself? Or was it downloaded and customized.
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Using the right PHP functions that isn't really hard.

(More info? Try this)
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You should do that thing where you add a poll.

I frankly don't care if j2o has .rar support. I don't download things very often and I don't care what people have used to compress it as long as I can open it. Zip files seem to have been more than sufficient thus far for most things and they are the standard. I don't think it's necessary or that it holds much potential for being a benefit.
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Using the right PHP functions that isn't really hard.

(More info? Try this)
Actually, J2O does not have ZIP support functions installed on the server so I had to use scripts available on this website: http://www.phpconcept.net/index.en.php

And give me some credit for having to figure out strange french PHP documentation too!
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Those scripts are cool, but Bobby, did you reprogrammed that scripts so that it also can find level names in the zips?
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I just wrote a few lines of my own that used parts of other PHP functions to get level names by opening the zipped J2L files and reading the appropriate segment.
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Cool, do you have any other PHP programs/sites made?
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RAR files are very popular these days tho... lots of sites just use RAR however I use RAR a lot and they tend to corrupt files sometimes... (at least they do for me)
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Both should be accepted IMO.
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I have WinRAR and pocketRAR but it took a long time to find them. ZIPs are more common these days but I do see some RARs. RAR's are way better but not much people have WinRAR or something like that
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RAR Winzip doesn't matter for me I have them both.
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Rar would be nice, but it certanily would add complications and there would always be a few people who wouldn't know how to open them : P. Rar isn't necessary for such small files like the ones that j2o gets : ).
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Adding to what Spotty said, .RAR is only an advantage when compressing large file sizes and Jazz2online hardly get any of that. Such scripts are only a waste of time and space.
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I guess we could add .rar support for files > 2 MB. However, I say we stay with .zip. More people have that.
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I prefer RAR over ZIP because of the better compression rates. It's not such a big deal downloading the shareware WinRAR is it? It tells you you have to register and shtuff but you don't really have to.
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I prefer RAR over ZIP because of the better compression rates. It's not such a big deal downloading the shareware WinRAR is it? It tells you you have to register and shtuff but you don't really have to.
Still, .zip files are more often. If we DID add .rar support, I doubt anyone of any importance would use it.
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