Hello everyone! I'm new here, but not new to the game.


I just bought a computer and some parts for old games (DOS mainly).

Compaq Deskpro 2000 (5200MMX) Pentium 200MMX O/C 233 (Just for Kicks)
96MB RAM
Matrox Mystique 8mb
Voodoo2 SLI 12+12
Sound Blaster 16 ISA (Vibra16pnp)
( A: ) 3.5" 1.44mb Floppy
( C: ) 4.3GB Hard Drive (Maxtor DiamondMax 2160)
( D: ) 4x CDROM
( E: ) 4x CDROM
( F: ) ZIP100 (Paralel Port)
( G: ) Kingston 128mb Flash Drive

Jazz 2 runs with the Mystique, I get fluctuates between 25 - 60 fps with FULL settings. 60 fps only when no enemies are around and with 1 player.

The game was made for P90's and 1mb gfx cards, so why am I getting such fps? Is this normal?


Thanks

First of all, welcome!

The minimum requirements reflect just that: the minimum requirements to run the game. If you have other software open, it will probably slow this down.

What you're getting seems about right. As long as you're over 30 FPS, gameplay is generally pretty smooth.

Thanks for the quick reply! And thanks for the welcome.

I was wondering because Need for Speed III (with Voodoo2s) skip very few frames. Hmm...Maybe theres a way to play Jazz 2 with my V2SLI setup...

Nice/

Anyways, Any less then 70fps just...scares me dude. You should have goten :

Pentium4Intel
AT LEAST 512MB RAM or higher
23' Flat Monitor
GeForce4X 6800 256MB Video Card
Standard Blaster Sound Card
20Gb HardDrive AT LEAST
DSL or Cable or T1 Line
Windows XP OS, Home or Prof. edition.

Thats what a person w/ a average statues of living can get with abit of saving and most of it right away.

Try putting it on Low Detail :P

Originally Posted by 450

Jazz 2 runs with the Mystique, I get fluctuates between 25 - 60 fps with FULL settings. 60 fps only when no enemies are around and with 1 player.

The game was made for P90's and 1mb gfx cards, so why am I getting such fps? Is this normal?


Thanks

I managed to stick around 50fps with worse hardware. Make sure to play in 8 bit mode. And you should be fine using any other setting.

By the way, Darker. You're such a bragger...

Darker, he wasn't trying to get a new computer...

just something to play around with...

Be careful with your harddrive man. Jazz people seem to have loads of megabytes in their jazz2 folder containing levels, programs, music, tilesets, etc. You will most likely be at risk of a low disk warning, and basically will probably get full. Especially since windows dumbs a bunch of crap on the OS. I would recommend buying a big hard drive and leave that for C alone. So basically all I say is, install Jazz2 on the flash drive.

Oh yes, welcome to the communityy 450! I don't see the purpose of the flat monitor, for needing to play JJ2, Darker...

Originally Posted by ¿Ã�Ã(-)rkér¿ TRC

Nice/

Anyways, Any less then 70fps just...scares me dude. You should have goten :

Pentium4Intel
AT LEAST 512MB RAM or higher
23' Flat Monitor
GeForce4X 6800 256MB Video Card
Standard Blaster Sound Card
20Gb HardDrive AT LEAST
DSL or Cable or T1 Line
Windows XP OS, Home or Prof. edition.

Thats what a person w/ a average statues of living can get with abit of saving and most of it right away.

Try putting it on Low Detail :P

or just Windows 2000 with 10GB and a normal Videa card and a old 16" CRT monitor will do just fine.

computers do work faster with windows 2000, try out windows XP on a 166Mhz computer (wont even install) then try windows 2000 it will work even better than windows 98 sometimes.

Welcome!

BTW: I do have a Pentium 4 as my main PC. XP Home, and some form of Linux/BSD when I feel like it. The P200 is just a dedicated DOS/older 3dfx gaming machine (NFS III, etc). I don't like XP, I like 2kPro way better because its more stable for me. Putting the settings on 8 bit doesn't help much.

Thanks again for the welcome!

Well you should ask 'Monolith' or 'Bobby aka Dizzy', I suppose about this dedicated server stuff, as they do this all the time. Umm, I would think that you need good computer spcs to run a dedicated server, as you have to leave your computer on.

Originally Posted by Derivative

Well you should ask 'Monolith' or 'Bobby aka Dizzy', I suppose about this dedicated server stuff, as they do this all the time. Umm, I would think that you need good computer spcs to run a dedicated server, as you have to leave your computer on.

Server? What did I say about a server?

I'd say you'd get around 40 - 50 FPS. On my laptop that has 16MB of RAM, I get about 20 FPS.

Don't mind Derivative, either. He occasionally replies to topics without reading them.

Originally Posted by 450

I was wondering because Need for Speed III (with Voodoo2s) skip very few frames. Hmm...Maybe theres a way to play Jazz 2 with my V2SLI setup...

I doubt it, since the Voodoo2 is a 3D card, and JJ2 is a 2D game. Hence there would be no graphics acceleration for it if you tried running it on your V2's, if it'd even run on them at all. So you'd better hope that your matrox card has good 2D acceleration on it because your V2's are going to get you nowhere.

Note: I have a computer with a single V2 and JJ2 won't run on there, I have to run it on my ATI card. And if it won't run on a single V2, it won't run on dual V2's since SLI mode only splits up the work that each card has to do, it doesn't add to their capabilities at all.

The game was made for P90's and 1mb gfx cards, so why am I getting such fps? Is this normal?

Yep, perfectly normal. My P75 used to get around 5-6FPS tops if I was playing an online games. It'd top out at about 30 max when playing singleplayer. Remember, just because a game is designed to play on a low-end system, it doesn't mean that it'll play well.

On the other hand, my .450ghz PII would play JJ2 maxed out at 70fps most of the time. So given that you have a 233mhz system which is right between the two, I'd say that the FPS that you're getting to be right on the money. Personally I consider anything over 15fps to be perfectly playable. If you don't believe me, you should compare it to 5fps (or less) someday. :-)

I've never tried a processor switch myself. I'm think about switching the Compaq Deskpro 2000 5200MMX's Pentium 1 200MMX to a K6-III 380 (fun experiment)...Less than 10 dollars on ebay. Will I need thermal paste or anything? It has a pretty big heatsink on it and I don't know if I need to put on new paste.

I always have about 20-30 FPS. I don't think that more than 70 FPS is possible.

You can get 71 FPS for shorts amounts of time, Alex.

What I were gonna say has been said by LRK so no.

Originally Posted by Cooba

You can get 71 FPS for shorts amounts of time, Alex.

What I were gonna say has been said by LRK so no.

Is there a way to mod the registry into allowing 70+ fps?

Not that you would need it...

Originally Posted by 450

Is there a way to mod the registry into allowing 70+ fps?

Similar to getting resolutions over 640x480, it has been tried, but failed. I doubt you would be able to distinguish any difference at all from what you see when the game runs at 70 FPS now and if the framerate was above 70.

There is no difference between 60 FPS and 13613906109641 FPS.

Originally Posted by ¿Ã�Ã(-)rkér¿ TRC

GeForce4X 6800 256MB Video Card

You got GeForce 4 MX or GeForce 6800?
And you also made a mistake if you bought GeForce 6800 Non-Ultra with 256mb. (unless it's 6800GT or 6800U =D)

Originally Posted by Labratkid

Similar to getting resolutions over 640x480, it has been tried, but failed. I doubt you would be able to distinguish any difference at all from what you see when the game runs at 70 FPS now and if the framerate was above 70.

Why has it failed? Coding issues?

I tried using another program to check my FPS. Jazz 2 could score FPS over 70. A normal place in the level scored 74 FPS. So it can run faster than 70 FPS but it just dosn't say it. (P.S. I used a program called FRAPS)

Originally Posted by ¿Ã�Ã(-)rkér¿ TRC

Pentium4Intel

The AMD Athlon 64-bit series is better on everything (especially games) except movie codecing.

Originally Posted by R3ptile

The AMD Athlon 64-bit series is better on everything (especially games) except movie codecing.

Hahaha.

OMG :s:s

I score around 20/30 FPS with this PC :

Interpentium 4
120 gb.
Radeon 9000 pro 256 mb. (For hackers : one of the best Graphics cards to hack with!!!)
512 mb ram memory(the speed)
Trust 7.1 Sound Card with 5.1 set.