I'll E-Mail CliffyB, and see what he thinks about this, and if he minds if I get Plus and Level Packs.

Originally Posted by Robo4900

I'll E-Mail CliffyB, and see what he thinks about this, and if he minds if I get Plus and Level Packs.

CliffyB couldn't care any less whether you play with an extra DLL file or not. Don't waste his time.

Okay then, who can I ask?

EDIT: I can't find the Terms of Service anywhere in my installation or the installer for my version of JJ2. I did find the License.txt, but that said nothing about Level Packs, therefore, it is not illegal for me to download Level Packs. I win. I have the LK Avalon version of JJ2 TSF, just so you know.

In which case it is also not illegal for you to use the JJ2+ patch. It works both ways.

I am trolling around. This is something like "c'mon girl, show me ur b**bz"...

Nope, it says in the license:

Originally Posted by License.txt

YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO REVERSE ENGINEER, DECOMPILE OR
DISASSEMBLE THE SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY.

I win.

EDIT: Whoever down-repped me, please PM me saying exactly WHY you Down-repped me, all you put was "false". What does that mean?!

EDIT 2: Whoever it is who keeps negrepping me, stop it.

Somehow you say I win as if this is something to gloat about. Like you can stand on a hill and say "MWAHAHAHAHAHA! YOUR PLAN TO..." eh, you get the idea. But whatever, it's your loss in the end.

If you read how JJ2+ works then you would see that it doesn't reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble JJ2 in any way....Just saying. JJ2+ is a fan-made ADDITION that when run, uses a .dll to run additional features to enhance the experience. New .j2ls add levels, JJ2+ adds gameplay. If you want a metaphor think of it this way: You are using an Internet browser, and you download a toolbar. The toolbar doesn't mess around with anything already in the browser, buts adds a few useful quirks that improve functionality and ease of use for the user, and change the overall layout a bit. Are browsing toolbars illegal? Nope. In fact some are encouraged by the creator as it shows user-devotion and a wider user-base.

That's just by two-bits on this somewhat ridiculous debate.

I'll look into Plus, then. If it's definately 100% fine and good, I'll get it.

EDIT: My version of TSF(LK Avalon) isn't compatible with plus.

If you have the LK Avalon, I believe you should have the right to download 'normal' TSF. I'll PM you a link.

I apreciate the offer, but no thanks.

EDIT: I've thought about it, and I'm downloading it now.

EDIT 2: Anyone know how to get LK Avalon TSF to work with Plus?

Yes, I am certain plus is not harmful or illegal. And even if in the future a mod for Jazz Jackrabbit was released that did edit code, Epic would not care.Epic has shown to be one of the most pro-modding game companies out there as the Unreal Series has one of the largest game mod communities out there and recent games in the Unreal and Gears of War series' have INCLUDED software to create, integrate and run mods, even on the PS3 version, and have run official supported community mod contests offering liscence deals and $1,000,000 prizes to the best mod. If you emailed them about it they would just say "okay, we don't particularly care"

... That doesn't answer my question: How do I get Plus working on LK Avalon.

Robo, you make me sad inside, how can someone be such an idiot :'(
I guess you never download any movies or music either.

There's no simple way to get it to work. Even though some users have managed to get it sort-of working, the bottom line is it isn't really meant to work. The LK Avalon version of TSF has a number of differences in the way the code is ordered, or at least that's the impression I'm under, so that although it plays the same, a patch wouldn't do all that well. If there's a user out there that knows how to do it and is willing to help, that's fine, but I think you should consider downloading normal TSF and patching that instead.

Originally Posted by Camou

Robo, you make me sad inside, how can someone be such an idiot :'(
I guess you never download any movies or music either.

... What? I don't get what you're saying or what you mean, but I assume it's something to do with the fact that I want my LK Avalon TSF to work with Plus. And why are you calling me an idiot? I know it's possible, I've heard people have done it a few times. And what do you mean "I guess you never downloading any movies or music either."?
A) That has no relevence;
and B) It's not good to promote illegal activity.

So, to sum up, I am not the idiot here.

Oh, and Obi1mcd, I will get/patch normal TSF, but I would like to at least try to get the version I actually have working.

Like I said, it isn't going to be easy at all, and it would take about 10 minutes to do it with normal TSF.

[FRUSTRATED]If I wanted to be told that what I want is stupid/impossible and be insulted, I would've suggested that we make another JJ3 Revival. I simply want to know how to try something. I don't care what the downside is. Now, unless you have something nice to say, don't say it.[/FRUSTRATED]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to annoy you.

It's alright, I won't down-rep you or anything. I'm thinking about down-repping Camou, though. It's just plain mean to call someone an idiot for simply asking how to do something with one of your favourite games.

I could take a shot at LK Avalon when I come home. I'll try to PM you on monday.

Cool, thanks.
(I would Up-rep you, but it won't let me. XD)

Originally Posted by Robo4900

Cool, thanks.
(I would Up-rep you, but it won't let me. XD)

Sorry, you're not an idiot.
You're completely retarded.

Since you fail to comprehend even the simplest of things: not all replies are related to the last post you made, but to other posts as well.
I assume you're the failure who also negrepped me for saying I downloaded the music for Jazz2 (which I have an original copy of) because it didn't work?

LOL I DOWNLOAD WAREZ AM I COOL YET XDDD

__________!

Camou, all you're doing is making youself look bad. Flaming is against the rules, now stop flaming before you get yourself in trouble! I am now ignoring your posts until the 7th of Febuary. Enjoy being ignored.

EDIT: Oh, and you, Camou, have failed to comprehend the simplest thing: The conversation had moved on, so what you said was as irrelivent as a ham sandwich.

Don't feed the trolls, please.

Question :3 .

If I buy the retail Jazz 2 box that claims 'Jazz 1' is included inside the box, what am i getting? and extra cd with the first game, the first game in a folder on the same disc where Jazz 2 is included, or some kind of voucher to download it?

Thanks for the answers

my question is will jj2 ever die , and will u give me the awnser shaney02005@gmail.com my email . and for pc problems u can contact me for online advice with jj2 etc its free


(btw dont wory dwws is dead) LOL

Originally Posted by Daniel

Question :3 .

If I buy the retail Jazz 2 box that claims 'Jazz 1' is included inside the box, what am i getting? and extra cd with the first game, the first game in a folder on the same disc where Jazz 2 is included, or some kind of voucher to download it?

Thanks for the answers

When I bought JJ2 years back, JJ1 wasn't in the box. There was a small slip of paper saying there was a mistake and a number to call to have the disk sent to me from Gathering of Developers. Normally, I figure it would be a separate disk inside the box. If you get the voucher, there's really no chance to redeem it anymore... I think. Godgames went under, right?

Sort of. In 2000, they were bought, then the main guy died in 2001, then they rebranded, then they folded into 2K Games. Basically, they aren't GOD Games anymore, and I doubt they do that service anymore.

(Short answer: Depends on how you look at it. I think of them as long gone.)

Well, I love Jazz, so I already purchased it, last week. I live outside the States, so I may be recieving the box in a month, maybe =/ . If anything, I'll post in here what's my 'situation' regarding the box.

Thanks a lot for your answer, guys; they always come in handy.

Just recieved Jazz Jackrabbit 2. What a beautiful big box :3. But, just like Hare, I got a piece of paper saying there was a mistake. Shame on that, really. Otherwise, it's good .

Take photos! I've never seen one of those pieces of paper.

Originally Posted by Violet CLM

Take photos! I've never seen one of those pieces of paper.

=/

Seriously, this will go down as my biggest disappointment ever... ok, ok, not really, but I was expecting Jazz 1 inside. The box says I'm entitled to it !

And now I have a question: Has anyone ever seen or heard of any copies of Jazz 2 that actually DID come with Jazz 1? If so, in what form did it come?

Form of: Broken Promises!

Is these forum/pages in here still active? I'm new here and there's almost no major recent activities besides the JJ1 LPs...

Yes, they're still active

Not as active as it was in the early days of JJ2, but still active nontheless.

I see... at least there is still people here...

Originally Posted by Robo4900

And now I have a question: Has anyone ever seen or heard of any copies of Jazz 2 that actually DID come with Jazz 1? If so, in what form did it come?

At least, I got that same paper, and they sent me JJ1, so arguably, it still did come with JJ1.