Originally posted by ShadowJOL
Ok. Here me goes. Ever since I've become leader of JOL, people have been really bothering me on servers. Many of which I am kicked out of or banned, and or just yelled at. Now, why do you all hate me! See, DarkerERR or whatever just hates me for example! He claims he don't hate JOL, but he still says he hates me! Now why is everyone mad at JOL. I want to know the unclouded truth. The only theroy I've heard was cuz of some clan war JOL and CC had long ago, but thats the past! As they say, dwelling on the past if futile! Well, whatever the reason is, don't take it out on me or any JOL! See, I'm just thinking that you all need to take stress out on someperson or group of people, and you find it fun to do this. Well why? This game is meant for fun! Not these @(#^!#(& "clan wars" and such. Now don't get me wrong, clan wars and all are good and fine, but don't take these things so seriously. It makes everything so hard to do, and brings down the fun of the game. So I'm saying this now. Put everything about JOL in the past! Just think of JOL just starting out, and none of you are mad at us! Cuz if you think about it, just hating a person for what clan they are in is pretty stupid.

Yes, this game was meant for fun and I agree: we are all (well most of us) are being too serious about it.
I heard that CC did something in the past and now Gpw is doing it.
It was something like this I think:
one day when I was very new on Jazz2 and I was very happy, I was telling someone about the comp my dad had and how good it was..then he started to notlike me. Then one day, I was bored and I started annoying ppl a bit then they started to not like me then well I did mostly stop annoying people like how I was: intrupting conversations and so on..
yeah hating a person for what clan theyre in is a bit ------(I wont say it).

anyway this is what happened with DM:

Spotty came to my server and it was my hotel level; ya know how DM hates hotels. Spotty said something he didnt like about my lvl and I kicked him then he said something not nice about JOL and I banned him,
I did say sorry after but he never forgave me..

didn't just post that useless thing against me because I am CC

It wasn't useless I needed to clear you this up!

I heard that CC did something in the past and now Gpw is doing it

What are you talking about.. keep us out of it thanks.

Err..I think you already know about it Shadow..and I dont want to get introuble again for personal attaching or flaming

Maybe I should become a co-leader
Not too many people dislike me. And maybe I could be the one to test people if they are worthy of joining JOL.*you'd have to send me a private message if anybody wishes to join*

Thats an idea..btw did you know?: Gzou is coleader of JOL..could talk to Shadow about another coleader

In response to the whole Shadow JOL problem. I'd just like to say that he is right. Because if you hate someone because of what clan they are in you are basically racist (Well.. Racist in a JJ2 way). And I'm pretty sure that we all know we should treat each other fairly, andn ot to discriminate people for what clan they are in.

Originally posted by URJazzCC
In response to the whole Shadow JOL problem. I'd just like to say that he is right. Because if you hate someone because of what clan they are in you are basically racist (Well.. Racist in a JJ2 way). And I'm pretty sure that we all know we should treat each other fairly, andn ot to discriminate people for what clan they are in.

True..
Its like people hating someone or a clan just cause they like or make hotels!

I think EvilMike would hate anybody who made hotels, especially if they used one of his tilesets.

Quite an interesting topic that has formed.

I hardly ever used his tilesets but i think I used his conversion a couple times..

Well.... I wouldn't go as far to say that if you hate people because they make hotels that they are racist. But it is along the same principle. But I think that if you are in a certain Clan, and people ban you, kick you, insult you (Unless you did something to prevoke this) then that is racist.

P.S. I agree with you JJ. This managed to turn from a topic of allying, into a topic about JJ2 racism.

JJ2 Racism? Derfinitley not in Clan Talk while I'm mod, goodbye topic. You've all had a say in here, no need to say any more.