Oh yeah? Well, I have two words for everyone, regarding you!



*runs away giggling and then slams face first into a brick wall*

My glasses are broken now and it's all your fault. I'm going to ban you from J2O and JDC and the JCF. And your clan. And get you deported from that country you are from. XXXX I think it's called. Lol. Uppercase F looks funny when striked out. It looks like an L but upside down. Lol. Uppercase L looks like an F upside down. HAhaha ha haha ha ha

*falls asleep*

It's a silly idea to say that DM is destroying other clans and preventing them from growing and being happy. A clan is what it's own members make of it. Please name some clans that have been deprived of happiness just because of DM's existence.

As for J2O, JCF and JDC "tyranny": would you prefer people attacking and flaming each other, cheating, giving bad reviews just because they don't like the person who posted a download? Without anyone even trying to stop it? If you're just nice to each other, and leave those who you don't like alone, i'd say you're not very likely to get banned from anything. If you feel attacked on J2O and can't resolve the matter with the person, just contact an admin, don't start flaming each other in public. If it is a DM member you're having problems with and don't trust the other DMs, you might think of contacting a non-DM admin. Really, they exist. Or, even more simple, ask a reasonable friend who isn't an enemy of either side to have a talk with the other party. Someone neutral can be a big help in cases like this. And it's not really like they ban someone for one error. If they did, 90% of the community would be gone already. They don't even give real warnings (the sort that can get you banned) as easily as you might think. There are plenty of things that might've deserved a warning (including some stuff i wrote myself in the past), but didn't get one. So i wouldn't say the community is run by a bunch of tyrants bent on destroying fun for jj2 players. They're just humans like you and me, who go to quite some trouble to make the best out of this community. So don't be too quick to call them tyrants and other nice things like that. The community would look a LOT different without them, probably not in a positive way...

Originally posted by Enigma
If they did, 90% of the community would be gone already.

That's really true!
But I must say...
I got a warning already fer something quite minor(bypassing filter with hell).Shocked me in some way...
But after I saw how MANY warnings the DDL guys got before being banned,I feel that you have to be quite a *censored*person for being banned!

P.S:Was saying"other word for inferno"allowed now?

Derby: Filter bypass fix.

It seems like hell and **** shouldn't be censored since they are actually used in Jazz2.
BTW I only bypassed the filter because I feel I'm not using these words in an offensive way.
EDIT: Um sorry if this is offtopic

Mabey if u cut back on the filtering and allowed some more words, like the ones I metnioned above, The rebels might lay off a bit , just a thought

[EDIT: You should make :P work for instead of only with a lower case p]

Derby: Filter bypass edit? I'm not even sure if these words are in the filter anymore. You probably shouldn't even attempt to bypass the filters, though. It's a pretty bad offense.

lol unhnit what are u talking about? lol maybe its just me but that came out all weird inside and made me feel funny...

Txl Kill = JohanRK

and yes i did crash a DM server just to test one of my progs dont take it to offesivly

Hell is not censored. The other word that has a meaning a bit similar to it will be censored. If you use it for the tileset, bypass the censor, that's fine with me.

And if you talk about rebelling people like Bolt! and DDL_Klein, they did not exactly get banned for bypassing a filter.

Been a while since I posted here...
Just wanted to say when I only played on TSF (a very long while back) everything was great.
Everyone accepted eachother,etc.
But when I found out I also could play 1.23, I found out GPW (I don't know if it still exists) was practiccaly owning whole 1.23.
About everyone that meant something in the whole JJ2 community was in there.
I agree with the ones saying a clan shouldn't own a game.
And I seriously had the feeling they did back then.
But like I said, I don't know if they still exist or if there is a new clan like it but (all?) of the admins and mods here were in it.
Just wanted to say that...
ty.

You can't own jj2.

Epic does!
But they don't care about anything here!

I don't mean the own in owning something.
I mean it in a way that they are much better and higher then the other ppl on jj2.

I feel so torn apart on this subject. On one hand, why should these clans and individuals be higher elevated than the rest? This is a game where rabbits murder each other, not some government. On the other hand, if these people weren't here, we wouldn't have J2O, JCF, JDC, or maybe not even a JJ2! I'll clarify on that last one: If no one made that patch to fix the listservers, we wouldn't have online play after Epic's list went down. And we wouldn't have a place to distribute it! Quite the complex subject: Gosh darn it, I came to shoot rabbits, not think!

Originally posted by Assassin87
Been a while since I posted here...
Just wanted to say when I only played on TSF (a very long while back) everything was great.
Everyone accepted eachother,etc.
But when I found out I also could play 1.23, I found out GPW (I don't know if it still exists) was practiccaly owning whole 1.23.
About everyone that meant something in the whole JJ2 community was in there.
I agree with the ones saying a clan shouldn't own a game.
And I seriously had the feeling they did back then.
But like I said, I don't know if they still exist or if there is a new clan like it but (all?) of the admins and mods here were in it.
Just wanted to say that...
ty.

Ow, didn't know GpW owned JJ2. Thanks for the news.

GpW was extremely powerful, but didn't own JJ2...

Originally posted by Trafton AT
GpW was extremely powerful, but didn't own JJ2...

Actually, it wasn't like that. People assumed we were powerfull. Why? Because other people liked us. Why did other people like us? Because we used to be a strong clan, and we were an old clan.

And people got to know us because of multiple members being active on this online community. So actually, it's the community which gave clans like DM or GPW their popularity.

I know.
I didn't say you forced it on people. It was well-earned.

I am kinda worried now. Bolt said he was going to leave JJ2, if he couldn't bring the revolution to a good end. But he wouldn't leave without giving a final blow.. What if that anti-DM tileset/level was that final blow? That'd mean that Bolt is gone from our community now.. Ugh..

But if that wasn't the final blow...
Eep...

Every war takes its victims

It's quite arrogant to leave for something like that imho.

This is getting out of hand.

(Trafton: link removal edit. Extremely strong content.)

I agree. I was going to post the link to the tileset, but I would rather it not spread. It is very contenty.

Originally posted by EvilMike
Oh yeah? Well, I have two words for everyone, regarding you!



*runs away giggling and then slams face first into a brick wall*

My glasses are broken now and it's all your fault. I'm going to ban you from J2O and JDC and the JCF. And your clan. And get you deported from that country you are from. XXXX I think it's called. Lol. Uppercase F looks funny when striked out. It looks like an L but upside down. Lol. Uppercase L looks like an F upside down. HAhaha ha haha ha ha

*falls asleep*

Can't stop

Why are DM's and GpW's 'elevated'? Well, they're not, but if you want a reason:
- They pay for, created, maintain and run J2O and the JCf
- I do believe these JDC adnims have been around for a while (since it's CONCEPTION, perhaps?)
- It is their site. Duh.

I was trying to resist posting here, but this is getting out of hand. EvilMike is a fair admin, more lenient than many others on other forums. I bet if any of these so called rebels ran a board and had people come and try to mouth them out they would have banned those people. Mike could probably have that done afaik but he hasn't - why? Because he is fair, despite what you claim.

Blazey: They're likening Bobby to Hitler? That is plain sad. I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but all those so called rebels: That is just SAD. Cue the eyes, mister smiley:

Newspaz: Exactly. Why are DM's and GpW's so popular? They earned respect by being good players, nice people, and when it came to things such as this, fair. If you want to take control, not that you can control a game then start your own site out of the goodness for your heart, pay for things, code it by hand, be fair, and stop trying to lay stuff like this out. For the last time, it's a GAME. It can't be controlled or taken over. They run the site because they made it. They pay for it. They maintain it, so people can use and enjoy it.

This isn't a community site, it's a fansite, to quote someone else who posted earlier. If you don't like the way things are done around here, try building your own site. And stick around for a few years while maintaining a friendly, respectful image like the clans did and I'm sure you'll be '1337' and popular.

/harsh rant off

Originally posted by defalcon
Why are DM's and GpW's 'elevated'? Well, they're not, but if you want a reason:
- They pay for, created, maintain and run J2O and the JCf
- I do believe these JDC adnims have been around for a while (since it's CONCEPTION, perhaps?)
- It is their site. Duh.

I was trying to resist posting here, but this is getting out of hand. EvilMike is a fair admin, more lenient than many others on other forums. I bet if any of these so called rebels ran a board and had people come and try to mouth them out they would have banned those people. Mike could probably have that done afaik but he hasn't - why? Because he is fair, despite what you claim.

Blazey: They're likening Bobby to Hitler? That is plain sad. I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but all those so called rebels: That is just SAD. Cue the eyes, mister smiley:

Newspaz: Exactly. Why are DM's and GpW's so popular? They earned respect by being good players, nice people, and when it came to things such as this, fair. If you want to take control, not that you can control a game then start your own site out of the goodness for your heart, pay for things, code it by hand, be fair, and stop trying to lay stuff like this out. For the last time, it's a GAME. It can't be controlled or taken over. They run the site because they made it. They pay for it. They maintain it, so people can use and enjoy it.

This isn't a community site, it's a fansite, to quote someone else who posted earlier. If you don't like the way things are done around here, try building your own site. And stick around for a few years while maintaining a friendly, respectful image like the clans did and I'm sure you'll be '1337' and popular.

/harsh rant off

Why waste the time and typing energy? It will never even get past their retinas, let alone penetrate their soft tissue bits. (the ones in the head, not the lower ones)

Originally posted by Krezack
Why waste the time and typing energy? It will never even get past their retinas, let alone penetrate their soft tissue bits. (the ones in the head, not the lower ones)

They have soft tissue in their heads?
I realise that they probably won't read it...you have to be smart enough to understand the alphabet for that.

Originally posted by defalcon

. . . they probably won't read it...you have to be smart enough to understand the alphabet for that.

HECK! How could I have forgotten that? Glad you reminded me.

Ofcourse they can't read it. Most of the most active generals of RK are already banned from this forum, how can they read it then?


Hmm I wonder why GpW is getting involved too, I haven't seen any attacks on GpW lately at all, also before it's dead. And besides, the revolution isn't against DM, J2o/JDC/JCF itself, but against some people, who just happen to be involved with those things.

. .
..



No wait,




Wow, this is pretty silly. But I have some serious things to say to "both sides". ()

To the side of evilmike -
Um, don't react at all to this, please. I'd say don't overreact but considering any of this as serious is not a good idea because it is a huge joke. To not break this text up further I won't post another smile. These are pre-teen age basically children, on the internet, which is always a dumb combination. Don't even reply here because everything about this is embarrasingly juvenile. You're older from what I remember so it matters nil.

To the side of the 'rebels'
I'm not going to insult this side either because, honestly, who cares? Go play the game or do something else and realize, what are you wasting your time on? You shouldn't take this seriously either. "Bobby and mike" run teh community because they are administrators. I don't know what they do in games, maybe they play or something. I am in "dm" and from what I know we've never done anything ever and putting the dm after your name basically limits your name length prior to it. It is great to be in a group with so many old friends, but I don't think we actually do anything. I hope eventually the "opposing side" of yours realizes that taking any of this seriously is a huge joke.

Basically I agree with mr. Splash. This kind of stuff on the internet especially a nonchalant game like jazz is sad (As in pathetic!) although seeing anyone take it seriously is worthy of a laugh. Internet is not real life, and if you're not acquainted with that, get one please for the sake of people who do. . .



Stuff is good

You're in DM? Cool ;P


As for me taking this seriously, I have two words. Ha ha. Maybe 3. Ha.

This is all so amusing that I look forward to each day of people threatening to hack me. It's great.

It seems fairly quiet today.

Is it over? NOTHING'S OVER UNTIL WE SAY IT'S OVER!!!!..Erm...you might want to ignore that. Seriously, I think the worst of this is over.

Yeah...

So, craccoboy, why not post a list of people you are against? With evidence, or whatever? I'm getting sick of this idiotic "revolution". If creating bobby=hitler tilesets is your idea of improving jj2 you are out of your mind.

Amen

Originally posted by Fquist
So, craccoboy, why not post a list of people you are against? With evidence, or whatever? I'm getting sick of this idiotic "revolution". If creating bobby=hitler tilesets is your idea of improving jj2 you are out of your mind.

Actually, it wasn't CB who made that set.

Newspaz is right. CraccoBoy was not responsible for that tileset. He is out of town, and will be back Monday.

Did I say he made that tileset? No.

He's allied with RK, so he basically supports this action. If he did not he should have distanced himself from RK.

I'm inviting any non-banned 'rebels' for posting a list of things going wrong in this community, with good arguments and evidence.

I don't believe we are currently "allied" with RK. The post that said so was a typo.

Right. So when Cracco said he was allied with RK it was a typo?

Before I say more garbage I want to apolgize to mr. EvilMike because I was unaware anything was actually happening to him (or being threatened) or more accurately his property, by basically preteenagers. An odd internet this is where people who don't know any better can still mess with other people in a more serious way than you'd assume.

There's no reason to really talk more about this but i've been surprised as to how some of this message board/game is set up after all. Mainly I'm "startled" if you prefer as to how important "clans" are made to look when the real official dueling system is JDC, and clans are so unconsequential it's amusing. I'm also "baffled" about the concept of revolution and community (less about this) is respect to real life. This thing here in the form of the message board/useful website can always be called a community because it is people talking with eachother and doing stuff together (Stuff is good), but it isn't really people and it isn't a solid environment that can really be affected by anything. Nothing about this prevents an actual "person" from doing something - which is why a "revolution" is even more amusing. This isn't russia or something.

No one has any authority (Administrators take care of the message board) and no there are not rules, you just can't participate in pyramid schemes and be vulgar and that sort of thing. This also shouldn't have a shred of importance in anyone's life unless of course they run it and then it's important, aside from a leisure activity or a game.

I don't know much about what is going on here, but I also don't care, and neither should you, those who are "fed up" with such an "important" thing as whatever you're upset about. Don't be a dummy and go play the game or go outside or something. If you're young and you don't realize that later you'll look back and be like, "Wow you mean I thought that was important and I did something dumb related to what, the internet community??", calm down for your own benefit and be smart.
"Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics," says a picture which I don't know the link to, "Even if you win you're still retarded" (Not to insult those who are retarded)
Don't be silly and don't get the message board cluttered with this junk and bother the administrators.