Trafton, I understand your decision on closing the PATPAY-Thread at 10000th reply, but closing a new one is not justified at all.

The PATPAY-thread was one of the most active threads the JCF ever had and it was very much fun to those people, who posted there. I don't see, why a new PATPAY-thread should be closed. You say, it is so much offtopic. But there are so much more threads, which are even more offtopic. Just look at Freelance's "This place is a drag" - thread. This topic hasn't any sense and it isn't closed yet!

Which problem do you have with the Post about the poster about you-thread? You say mess of senseless posts? Wow, what news. You just have to look into a thread on the Misc and you will see tons of senseless posts. Thats nothing new. Why can't you let us have a new PATPAY-thread? What is so annoying with it? If you don't like it, just leave it and ignore it like you, obviously, do it with all the other threads.

*claims this page in memory of Post about the poster about you*

Nuuu, it can't go it just.... CAN'T!! *kick self* aaarrrrrgggghhh!

EFIL GINGERBREAD MAN!

The Cornbread side just gained an ally...

yeah..evil trafton, and those who made him a mod! eessh..boredom is just..returning..WE WANT THE PATPAY BACK DARNIT!! , it's still running on the TLA forums, and some other forums..
and sorry if I sound mean..I'm just upset

Just make another one, it's not a big deal. Frankly, I was never a bit fan of it. Do what you like, people.

if we make another one, it'll get deleted..after the old patpay (the one that had too many replies), was locked, faw made another one, and it got locked.....so..yeah...but I want the topic back..and so many ppl do...so yeah..-_0

Why don't you make another one? ^^; *is kinda angry now*

BORDEM MUST NOT RETURN!!!

*pout-sigh*, ah well, if you make a new one there would be none of this trouble... now most people around the JCF are gonna leave and such, we all loved PATPAY

dalspots, I am not a moderator and I did not make the decision to lock the topic.

0o...you aren't? but why you're agreeing on closing it?!eeh?

Originally posted by dalspots
0o...you aren't? but why you're agreeing on closing it?!eeh?

I have presented my opinion on the matter throughout this topic. Go back and read it.

even if a thread has 10,000 posts, it's not right to close the new one! essh

Originally posted by dalspots
even if a thread has 10,000 posts, it's not right to close the new one! essh

Not to mention the second one...

yes, I agree with faw..closing the new thread for the patpay, is...just unfair...bring patpay back!

Why are you people continuing to attack and blame Trafton for every single little problem resulting from this pathetic PATPAY incident? Why? Can you please answer that? Besides, he is not a moderator; how can he close topics? Magic?

Do you see anyone else complaining about this? What about people like Shorty, Nova, ElectroPiZZa, DarkShadow, etc.? Are they sinking down to this level of childishness, and whining about the closure of one little topic? I'm afraid not; perhaps they have lives, or have more important things to be concerned about. (Posting in that thread has nothing to do with the examples I am giving, because most/all of the people I have listed above did not actively post in there.)

Please cease and desist; the problem is only getting worse as more and more people make whiny comments about it. Also, if anyone takes offense at my post here, I apologize for the inconvenience.


~pranx0rific


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Then I wait for a statement by one of the admins or mods. There wasn't any real reason to close a new one.

Originally posted by dersproedel
Then I wait for a statement by one of the admins or mods. There wasn't any real reason to close a new one.

When a topic is closed, it generally is closed for good reason. As Derby stated, it would be considered a reinitialization of offense.

Velk,there simply are some people who are different from you or Shorty.
Some come here to discuss things,others come here to have fun...
I myself see the JCF as my personal home!^^
I really grew up here,this is the place I started my online life,THIS meaning especially the forum games...who knows where I'd be now without that...
I wouldn't have my art cos I never woulda met Skulg or Pho,I wouldn't have any friends...oh joy.
Please refrain from saying things like"get a life",I find that very offensive,seriously.
I simply can't do anything else while I'm online cos I keep watching out for people logging in or something happening...I do have a life,not a very good one,but it is a life",so nya or something.;-P"

Originally posted by Trafton
When a topic is closed, it generally is closed for good reason. As Derby stated, it would be considered a reinitialization of offense.

HA,veeeery good reason.
So now forum games are an offense?
Highly interesting,and amusing,too!
It's especially nice to see how you people are giving the high number of replies as a reason of closure while the new one almost HAD NONE AT ALL!

Originally posted by Trafton
When a topic is closed, it generally is closed for good reason. As Derby stated, it would be considered a reinitialization of offense.

Why does he think so? Were there ever big problems with the PATPAY-thread? I can't remember any...

Originally posted by Piccolo
HA,veeeery good reason.
So now forum games are an offense?
Highly interesting,and amusing,too!
It's especially nice to see how you people are giving the high number of replies as a reason of closure while the new one almost HAD NONE AT ALL!

I think the message that is trying to be presented here is that PATPAY is getting old. Word Association, for instance, remains unlocked. While PATPAY may be dead, there are plenty of other good topics out there (I'm not saying that I like Word Association, but I like it better than I liked PATPAY).

OH NO I SAID SOMETHING OFFENSIVE
OH YES I AM GOING TO DIE LAUGHING

Okay, look. Forum games, while they may be a diversion (fun activity), are not a reason to start thread after thread of complaints when they are closed from becoming too large. Realize, that when a thread becomes too large, it is necessary to close it.

I am going to shut up, now, after failing to make my point repeatedly; sadly, I actually have a life, and will hereby go study math, play UT2k3, or work on projects such as BOB_ALLEN Central. Farewell. Please don't make me post this much in a short period of time.

thats not what we mean , megum
when the old patpay got closed (the one that had too much replies)
some one made a new one, but then...it got locked!O_O but why?

Originally posted by dalspots
thats not what we mean , megum

May I ask, who the heck is 'megum'? ;-P

~pranx0rific

Originally posted by dalspots
thats not what we mean , megum
when the old patpay got closed (the one that had too much replies)
some one made a new one, but then...it got locked!O_O but why?

Opening a new version of a topic that was closed is simply reopening a topic that should be locked. It is treated just like the old topic, and therefore closed.

Originally posted by Trafton
I think the message that is trying to be presented here is that PATPAY is getting old. Word Association, for instance, remains unlocked. While PATPAY may be dead, there are plenty of other good topics out there (I'm not saying that I like Word Association, but I like it better than I liked PATPAY).

Its getting old? C'mon! PATPAY was the most active thread on the whole JCF! It doesn't matter if it is an old idea. It depends on its popularity and the popularity of the PATPAY thread was immense.

@ Agent: It is quite logical to close a thread, when he gets to big, but to close the new thread of the PATPAY isn't.

Originally posted by Piccolo
HA,veeeery good reason.
So now forum games are an offense?
Highly interesting,and amusing,too!
It's especially nice to see how you people are giving the high number of replies as a reason of closure while the new one almost HAD NONE AT ALL!

Unlike the first word association, Post About the Poster Above You was not closed due to a high number of replies. It was a convenient time to close it after ten thousand replies because it was half-expected to be closed after that many replies. While I have never compiled a list of reasons to have the topic closed, there are many, and if anyone had the most support for its closure, it would be me. So come after me. Roar. Woof. Meow. Neigh.

*agrees with spro*

btw, Megumi..that was a typo! O_O yeaah.megum is a typo of megumi...blame it on the keyboard

Originally posted by Derby
Unlike the first word association, Post About the Poster Above You was not closed due to a high number of replies. It was a convenient time to close it after ten thousand replies because it was half-expected to be closed after that many replies. While I have never compiled a list of reasons to have the topic closed, there are many, and if anyone had the most support for its closure, it would be me. So come after me. Roar. Woof. Meow. Neigh.

Exactly. If it had continued any longer, people would just want it closed at the next significant number, and that would be 100,000, which is a bit high. Besides, most of the JCF expected that it would be closed at that point.

Originally posted by Trafton
Opening a new version of a topic that was closed is simply reopening a topic that should be locked. It is treated just like the old topic, and therefore closed.

But you say, it was closed, cos it got too big. Well, this problem can be solved. Close the old and just make a new one. Look at the Word Association. Why didn't get it closed? The old Word Association was closed cos of 5000 replies, but the new one is still opened. Why don't they make the same with the PATPAY?

Sorry for my bad English...I hope you can understand it.

As Derby said, it was just a convinient time to close it. I suppose it was sort of an honoring of a topic. It had a very long life, perhaps the longest of any thread, and that I suppose deserves respect. It was a commemerative thing as much as spam prevention.

Originally posted by dersproedel
But you say, it was closed, cos it got too big. Well, this problem can be solved. Close the old and just make a new one. Look at the Word Association. Why didn't get it closed? The old Word Association was closed cos of 5000 replies, but the new one is still opened. Why don't they make the same with the PATPAY?

Sorry for my bad English...I hope you can understand it.

This is incorrect. The topic was closed for other reasons than the assumed and false reason that it was closed because it had reached ten thousand posts. It was closed at that time to take everyone by less surprise.

Oh cool. We can be proud of our PATPAY, huh? It had a long and proudful life, but now it is gone. Just like a funeral, or what? This is a thread and it hasn't a "life".

Originally posted by Agent Megumi
Also, if anyone takes offense at my post here, I apologize for the inconvenience.


~pranx0rific

Originally posted by Agent Megumi
OH NO I SAID SOMETHING OFFENSIVE
OH YES I AM GOING TO DIE LAUGHING

(Fawriel:User humiliation)

Any other questions?

Originally posted by dersproedel
Oh cool. We can be proud of our PATPAY, huh? It had a long and proudful life, but now it is gone. Just like a funeral, or what? This is a thread and it hasn't a "life".

I am unsure of whether that was sarcasm or not. Regardless, yes, more or less. All threads come to an end. PATPAY was one of the threads that will be remembered for a long time because of its great impact, through both the huge amount of posts (still unrivaled for the #1 most-replied topic on the board) and through its legacy of sorts. ;-P

Originally posted by Agent Megumi
Why are you people continuing to attack and blame Trafton for every single little problem resulting from this pathetic PATPAY incident? Why? Can you please answer that? Besides, he is not a moderator; how can he close topics? Magic?

Do you see anyone else complaining about this? What about people like Shorty, Nova, ElectroPiZZa, DarkShadow, etc.? Are they sinking down to this level of childishness, and whining about the closure of one little topic? I'm afraid not; perhaps they have lives, or have more important things to be concerned about. (Posting in that thread has nothing to do with the examples I am giving, because most/all of the people I have listed above did not actively post in there.)

Please cease and desist; the problem is only getting worse as more and more people make whiny comments about it. Also, if anyone takes offense at my post here, I apologize for the inconvenience.


~pranx0rific


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=(((((((((((((((((((((((((((
OMB OMB, I HAV NO WHEIR TO GET HIGH AMOUNTS OF POSTS WITHOUT BEING BANNED. >=(((((((

;-P If your existance depends on the Thread PATPAY, then go put your head in a trash can. Yay.

Originally posted by dersproedel
Oh cool. We can be proud of our PATPAY, huh? It had a long and proudful life, but now it is gone. Just like a funeral, or what? This is a thread and it hasn't a "life".

Just like the death of anything that is not going to return, users will get over it (or will at least need to). That is not to say that mourning is unacceptable; it is understandable.

Originally posted by Derby
Just like the death of anything that is not going to return, users will get over it (or will at least need to). That is not to say that mourning is unacceptable; it is understandable.

Indeed, while making parallels to the death of a human being is a bit creepy, for these purposes it is not at all inaccurate. PATPAY was a big part of life for many users, thus it is hard to let go of it. However, things come and go. It is really the cycle of life. While the magnitude of the death of a person is far greater than that of a forum game like PATPAY, it is understandable to have the mourning period. People have mourning periods for even small (or relatively moderate for some) things such as this. PATPAY may be gone, but it is not forgotten.

I know this sounds quite cheesy, but it does make sense.

I think this is quite a stupid reason, but if you want it like that...

come on, come to think of it, mods and admins..when you are at some forum, and there's a topic that you liked so much that it was your fave, and it was part of your life, and then, it gets many posts, and then..some day....BAM! it gets closed....what would you do? ...come on, think about it!

Originally posted by Trafton
Indeed, while making parallels to the death of a human being is a bit creepy, for these purposes it is not at all inaccurate. PATPAY was a big part of life for many users, thus it is hard to let go of it.

FINALLY someone gets it!

And no,our lifes do not depend on that thread,bit they're a lot less fun now...