Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   JazzJackrabbit Community Forums » Open Forums » JCS & Scripting

My first level ready soon (maybe)

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 3, 2003, 06:13 AM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
I don't think demos are allowed in the downloads section. There was too much:
"Ubermegarace DEMO!!
Ubermegarace
Ubermegarace addon!
Ubermegarace special!
Ubermegarace 2"
Yeah, I can see the reasoning behind that. Unfortunately, that means it may be a LONG time before I can upload this.

Quote:
Originally posted by Fl@$h
*will test plzthx*

Oh and BTW, you could make the pack auto-update by making a HTML file that checks for updates everytime it's opened, and automatically starts downloading when it find a page updated. It may be a little complex, but it works, as long as the user has internet access.
Just making levels, and custom tiles for each individual level is enough work for me right now. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Oh, and yes, you're quite welcome to test once I've got it ready for that. It'll be just a little longer than I thought because of the new tiles I'm adding. They're mostly done, but its going to take some work to make them look a bit better in the stage.

As soon as that's done, I'll make some screenshots to get some input from you guys, and get to work on the pinball segment of the level. The pinball will take some time to make sure it's challenging but not too frustrating.

Enemies and item placement are about 95% done.
Stijn

Administrator

Joined: Mar 2001

Posts: 6,968

Stijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to behold

Dec 3, 2003, 06:21 AM
Stijn is offline
Reply With Quote
I meant that with teh HTML as an uhm... helpful remark for your idea to upload the pack in parts, which will not be appreciated by the admins, I am afraid, so this might be a good replacement. just a thought *shrugs*
Another Jazz 2 fan

JCF Member

Joined: Mar 2001

Posts: 1,217

Another Jazz 2 fan has disabled reputation

Dec 16, 2003, 04:21 PM
Another Jazz 2 fan is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamepanther
The only way to really get stuck is to be standing on the ground, and then jump right as they hit, so that you sink into the ground. The window for this to happen is very small, so you'd almost have to do it on purpose.
This is easy to prevent, however. Just put one-way on the floor tiles, and you will not sink into them. (The same can be done with Psych animated spikes)

Hope that helps.
__________________

Proud to be an old-timer! Rarely active, but Jazz Jackrabbit will always be in my heart.

Check out my War Tavern story, The Life of Jason Jackrabbit! [UPDATE - yeah, it died in 2002, but it was fun!]
Current Projects: Devan's Secret Weapon - yes, I still intend to release this some day. Got a lot of really great stuff done, it's going to be awesome!
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 23, 2003, 08:48 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Another Jazz 2 fan
This is easy to prevent, however. Just put one-way on the floor tiles, and you will not sink into them. (The same can be done with Psych animated spikes)

Hope that helps.
Didn't know that
*goes to fix*

Thanks!
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 26, 2003, 04:35 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Update: I have only some minor enemy placement issues to correct, and the level will be ready for testing. I promised screenshots, so I'll try to get those taken tomorrow.
NOKA

JCF Member

Joined: Dec 2002

Posts: 38

NOKA is doing well so far

Dec 28, 2003, 04:35 AM
NOKA is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamepanther
Update: I have only some minor enemy placement issues to correct, and the level will be ready for testing. I promised screenshots, so I'll try to get those taken tomorrow.
When you will upload your level pack on j2o -I can't wait to play it -this stuff looks gooooood.
__________________
<img src="http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4392/sigstatkekjt4.png">
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 29, 2003, 03:05 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
For your amusement:





Sorry for the delay. Bad case of the flu took all the energy right out of me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NOKA
When you will upload your level pack on j2o -I can't wait to play it -this stuff looks gooooood.
Unless I can strike some kind fo deal with the powers that be here, it will be a long, long time, becuase this is the beginning of what I hope will be a very large level pack. If you'd like to play sooner, you can help test it for me
Risp_old

JCF Member

Joined: Mar 2003

Posts: 3,992

Risp_old is doing well so far

Dec 29, 2003, 03:12 PM
Risp_old is offline
Reply With Quote
That scenery looks... bland. At least it isn't a gradient.
__________________
<img src="http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Ashton_JX/the_web/stupid_prize.gif" border="0" alt="The rodent thingy wasn't worthy.">
I would not want anyone having sex with my cocktail. ~ Radium
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 29, 2003, 03:54 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
No, the new tiles don't look as good here as they do in action. You can't tell too well from here, but I've used them to create a pseudo-3D look. People that have been testing it for me in person say it has a sort of Sonic-esque feel to it. Anyway, the idea was for the new tiles to make the level feel 3D and textured as a whole through the way the tiles are arranged in the level. With the old castle tiles, each tile had a lot of depth and texture, but the level looked flat no matter how I arranged them.
blurredd

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2001

Posts: 1,896

blurredd is an asset to this forumblurredd is an asset to this forum

Dec 29, 2003, 04:02 PM
blurredd is offline
Reply With Quote
I doubt it will look a whole lot better in action, but do what you want.
Risp_old

JCF Member

Joined: Mar 2003

Posts: 3,992

Risp_old is doing well so far

Dec 29, 2003, 06:00 PM
Risp_old is offline
Reply With Quote
It might look a bit better if everything was that style, but...
__________________
<img src="http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Ashton_JX/the_web/stupid_prize.gif" border="0" alt="The rodent thingy wasn't worthy.">
I would not want anyone having sex with my cocktail. ~ Radium
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 29, 2003, 06:58 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Can I assume that the worst part is that big flat orange spot in the bottom right screenshot (below and to the left of where Jazz is standing)?
Risp_old

JCF Member

Joined: Mar 2003

Posts: 3,992

Risp_old is doing well so far

Dec 29, 2003, 07:07 PM
Risp_old is offline
Reply With Quote
That and the bridge in the same screenshot.
__________________
<img src="http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Ashton_JX/the_web/stupid_prize.gif" border="0" alt="The rodent thingy wasn't worthy.">
I would not want anyone having sex with my cocktail. ~ Radium
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 29, 2003, 07:29 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
I can't do much about the latter, but the former has been fixed up a little. I'll keep an eye out for any more blank spots I've overlooked.
TangerĂŻne

JCF Member

Joined: Dec 2003

Posts: 17

TangerĂŻne is doing well so far

Dec 30, 2003, 02:15 AM
TangerĂŻne is offline
Reply With Quote
Yeah, the big orange spot just looks bland compared to the rest of the tileset. Add some shading, at least. The other thing is the sharp colour changes in them - it looks so unnatural for a level.

Oh, and put the falling red stuff back in. It's in the first screenshot (the one with castle) but not the second :P
__________________
!
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 30, 2003, 01:47 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by TangerĂŻne
Yeah, the big orange spot just looks bland compared to the rest of the tileset. Add some shading, at least. The other thing is the sharp colour changes in them - it looks so unnatural for a level.
I'll see if I can make some tweaks to the color changes, but there's not much I can do without going back and doing some major work on my palette.
Quote:
Oh, and put the falling red stuff back in. It's in the first screenshot (the one with castle) but not the second :P
There's an example of how much my tile set depends on motion. That fiery stuff is actually shooting up from the bottom of the level, and wanders across the entire stage. It just happened to be in view for the first shot and not for the second. I haven't removed or changed it at all.
Radium

JCF Éminence Grise

Joined: Jul 2002

Posts: 12,275

Radium is an asset to this forum

Dec 30, 2003, 02:41 PM
Radium is offline
Reply With Quote
Hmm. If you animated the firey things to wave back and forth and up and down a little, gave them some horizontal motion (so the layer moves up and to the right), and made them flicker a bit, they'd look just like embers or fireball things blowing off the surface of the lava.
__________________
GENERATION 22: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

<i>"This picture shows me that the gray bird man is just a bully and picks on smaller birds. Just because he has no friends and takes it out on others smaller than him to look good. I can see in the parrats eyes that it does however have a understanding of the gray bird man and is upset about getting cut."</i> - Speeza on cartoon birds.
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 30, 2003, 04:43 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
Hmm. If you animated the firey things to wave back and forth and up and down a little, gave them some horizontal motion (so the layer moves up and to the right), and made them flicker a bit, they'd look just like embers or fireball things blowing off the surface of the lava.
If you're talking about the bright little specks scattered randomly across every screenshot, that's exactly what I've done.
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 30, 2003, 04:46 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
I've gone in and removed some barely-used color entries in my tileset so that I can do more work with the ground tiles. This time, I think the results will be satisfactory to most of you, but it means yet again that this will take even more time.
Radium

JCF Éminence Grise

Joined: Jul 2002

Posts: 12,275

Radium is an asset to this forum

Dec 30, 2003, 05:05 PM
Radium is offline
Reply With Quote
I mean actually animating the tile with the spark on it to move around, in addition to the layer, so it isn't always moving with the same speed.
__________________
GENERATION 22: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

<i>"This picture shows me that the gray bird man is just a bully and picks on smaller birds. Just because he has no friends and takes it out on others smaller than him to look good. I can see in the parrats eyes that it does however have a understanding of the gray bird man and is upset about getting cut."</i> - Speeza on cartoon birds.
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Dec 30, 2003, 07:58 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
I mean actually animating the tile with the spark on it to move around, in addition to the layer, so it isn't always moving with the same speed.
Yes. It bobs up and down. The effect will be more obvious in the second stage (already in progress). In this level, it moves so quickly and on so many layers that it's difficult to tell. I would make multiple animations of it to add variety, but I've got too many animated tiles already.
Gecko

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 94

Gecko has disabled reputation

Jan 1, 2004, 02:58 PM
Gecko is offline
Reply With Quote
The tileset and screenies *Drool*
Oh and i'll test the second level when it's ready for the testing stage, but PM me the Stuff not e-mail it. Because well ummmm *has no e-mail Address*
__________________
<IMG SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/ga4/gex/Mut1.gif" Height=150 Width =150 >
Kids, this is why you shouldn't play with mutants!
"Shut up about capitalization, I'm too lazy to reach for the e and the shift key right now. "-Kaz
TangerĂŻne

JCF Member

Joined: Dec 2003

Posts: 17

TangerĂŻne is doing well so far

Jan 3, 2004, 01:57 AM
TangerĂŻne is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamepanther
I've gone in and removed some barely-used color entries in my tileset so that I can do more work with the ground tiles. This time, I think the results will be satisfactory to most of you, but it means yet again that this will take even more time.
Better to wait for a good level than play a bad one, right? w00t. Thw only thing I have trouble with now is the ribs, they went with the castle but not with the current blocks.

And if you have no e-mail, how did you sign up?
__________________
!
Gecko

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 94

Gecko has disabled reputation

Jan 3, 2004, 07:53 AM
Gecko is offline
Reply With Quote
Well I used to have one and got rid of it since I barely used it and that such. I just wish people would trash the E-mail comfirmation thing.......

Oh and on topic did you rip those tiles when all you have is a J2t file?
__________________
<IMG SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/ga4/gex/Mut1.gif" Height=150 Width =150 >
Kids, this is why you shouldn't play with mutants!
"Shut up about capitalization, I'm too lazy to reach for the e and the shift key right now. "-Kaz
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Jan 3, 2004, 10:06 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by TangerĂŻne
Thw only thing I have trouble with now is the ribs, they went with the castle but not with the current blocks.
They don't go because the space behind them was too flat. I'm fixing it.
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Jan 3, 2004, 10:13 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
Oh and on topic did you rip those tiles when all you have is a J2t file?
You mean how did I do it? I opened up the tile sets in JCS and took screen shots, then pasted the tiles into my own set as needed.

BTW, you don;t need to wait until the second level is ready to start testing. You're welcome to test the first, as long as I can manage to get the files to you.
Gecko

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 94

Gecko has disabled reputation

Jan 5, 2004, 01:18 PM
Gecko is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamepanther
You mean how did I do it? I opened up the tile sets in JCS and took screen shots, then pasted the tiles into my own set as needed.

BTW, you don;t need to wait until the second level is ready to start testing. You're welcome to test the first, as long as I can manage to get the files to you.
But I want to test the second level.
__________________
<IMG SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/ga4/gex/Mut1.gif" Height=150 Width =150 >
Kids, this is why you shouldn't play with mutants!
"Shut up about capitalization, I'm too lazy to reach for the e and the shift key right now. "-Kaz
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Jan 5, 2004, 03:01 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gecko
But I want to test the second level.
What's wrong with testing both?
mikeejimbo

JCF Member

Joined: Apr 2003

Posts: 187

mikeejimbo is doing well so far

Jan 7, 2004, 05:18 PM
mikeejimbo is offline
Reply With Quote
Is it ready to test right now?

If so, I'll PM you my e-mail address.
__________________
<BR>
Douglas Adams!
<BR>
42!
<BR>
Fnord!
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Jan 7, 2004, 07:53 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeejimbo
Is it ready to test right now?

If so, I'll PM you my e-mail address.
Give it just a little more time. I'll announce it here when I'm ready.

Here's a progress report for those who are waiting:

Currently, I'm having to "texture" the entire stage to get the look I want. I'm already 50% done with that. (Edit: Note, this is the last time I change the tiles. I'm very happy with the new look I'm getting, and it will be final... so no screenies. You'll all just have to try it out and see )

Next, I have some problems with the enemies at the very last part of the stage. I know without testing that it needs work, so I'm going to get to it before I let a singe person into the stage... but after I'm done "texturing" everything.

Then I'm done! All terrain is in place. Obstacles, secrets, items, and hints are in place.

When I'm finished, there will also be support for all three difficulty settings, one Jazz(or Lori)-only secret, and one Spazz-only secret (in addition to all the secrets that everyone else can get)
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Jan 12, 2004, 05:58 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Status update:

I'm almost completely done re-working the level to use to the new tiles properly. Just a couple of spots to fix.

I decided to add lighting effects to one area. It looks great for the most part, but it caused a bug in a sequence of secret chambers. Removing one room from a sequence of rooms connected by teleporters fixed the bug. The "removed" room still exists, but it no longer part of that sequence of chambers. It is now a secret accessed from an entirely different part of the level (VERY hard to find, too).

I still have to work on the enemies at the end of the level. Most of them are either too hard to deal with at the speeds I'm, uh, encouraging players to move at, or they're too easy to simply run past and not have to deal with them at all. I need to find a way to balance it. I will keep working on it until it feels right.
Stijn

Administrator

Joined: Mar 2001

Posts: 6,968

Stijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to behold

Jan 13, 2004, 06:36 AM
Stijn is offline
Reply With Quote
That sounds so 1337.
Risp_old

JCF Member

Joined: Mar 2003

Posts: 3,992

Risp_old is doing well so far

Jan 13, 2004, 01:36 PM
Risp_old is offline
Reply With Quote
Wow, that sounds like some hard work for just one level. Dedication.
__________________
<img src="http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Ashton_JX/the_web/stupid_prize.gif" border="0" alt="The rodent thingy wasn't worthy.">
I would not want anyone having sex with my cocktail. ~ Radium
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Jan 13, 2004, 10:34 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by RSPSS FR
Wow, that sounds like some hard work for just one level. Dedication.
Well I give what I'm doing everything I can put into it, or I give up on it completely. That sucks, considering some of the promising things I've started and abandoned, but once I've let people know I'm working on it, I tend to work on it until I finish.

I think if people with more talent and skill than me would put more time into things (not four years, that was just because of college) we'd have some stuff a LOT more amazing than we've seen done with Jazz 2. Not pointing any fingers, but there are some people around who I think have more talent and skill...
blurredd

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2001

Posts: 1,896

blurredd is an asset to this forumblurredd is an asset to this forum

Jan 16, 2004, 04:30 PM
blurredd is offline
Reply With Quote
Feel free to point fingers. I won't mind.
Iam Canadian

JCF Member

Joined: Aug 2002

Posts: 1,575

Iam Canadian is doing well so far

Jan 16, 2004, 10:34 PM
Iam Canadian is offline
Reply With Quote
Umm...wow! That looks awesome.
Can I beta test? Please?
__________________
"If there's anything more important than my ego, I want it caught and shot now."
-Zaphod Beeblebrox
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Jan 20, 2004, 12:18 AM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
UPDATE:
Progress will again be delayed for now, as personal problems have come up concerning my long-distance fiance, who is having a severe bout of depression. The wedding has been postponed indefinately, and I am moving away from home to be near her. I won't be posting here or working on the level at all until I have finished moving to my new (and still temporary) home. Even then, progress will be slower while I find a new job in that area. Please wish us luck.

Progress will resume once things have settled down slightly. I'm not letting all this work go to waste by not finishing.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Iam Canadian
Umm...wow! That looks awesome.
Can I beta test? Please?
Yes, once I am able to work on it again...
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Jan 26, 2004, 01:30 PM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
I am now somewhat settled in, living on the couch at a friend's house. Progress on the level(s) will resume now.
Flamepanther

JCF Member

Joined: Nov 2002

Posts: 134

Flamepanther has disabled reputation

Feb 6, 2004, 12:17 AM
Flamepanther is offline
Reply With Quote
I've made a few last tweaks to the look of the level, and I'm finally making progress on the enemies in the last area. I should be ready to start public testing in a week or two. Wish me luck and inspiration!
Stijn

Administrator

Joined: Mar 2001

Posts: 6,968

Stijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to beholdStijn is a splendid one to behold

Feb 6, 2004, 05:51 AM
Stijn is offline
Reply With Quote
Good luck and inspiration
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:36 PM.