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Keep J2O as it is now.
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Keep J2O as it is now.
No. There are way to many bugs and unfinished pages. Not needed.
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I like j2o, just fix a few things.
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Can't believe nobody thought of this. Have the ability to rate reviewers. THIS could work better than rating strictness. Anyone can rate a reviewer from 1 to 5 for good reviews and sensible rating. Their rating would be displayed above each of their reviews, and could be used to influence a levels average rating (if you go with the idea to alter the ave rating based on who rates it.) Raters like Aiko would probably get a high score, and thus their reviews would carry more weight, and ppl would trust their scores.

I also say link party mode to GIP.

Here is a unique idea : Put a link to the server from the GIP with the most players playing in it on the main page. (Of course, it would be a public server.) This would be a quick way to play Jazz and you wouldn't need to check the GIP.

I also agree that a textbox should be used for the tileset option. As well, the tileset makers should be notified whenever a level is made with their tileset. (I, for one, would enjoy to see levels using my tileset, even though only one I know of so far has other than the ones I made.) Of course, that would be an option.

Put the links to Downloads, Pictures, Articles, JDC, etc. on the left side much like J2C did, not along the top. Make them buttons. (The kind that light up when the mouse is over them.)

Just like on the JCF, make the option to have a little box pop up when you get a PM.

How about an easier way to submit did you know tips?

Make re-uploads work. As well, when the author reuploads something, move the level back to the top of the list so ppl are aware of the reupload. This also encourages authors to reupload levels instead of uploading version 2s, etc.

For some reason some features on J2O do not work unless I turn off my firewall temporarily. For example, I cannot view reviews of pictures or articles. But I can see reviews of levels! Strange. Anyway, fix this if you can.

Have the option to post a screenshot of the level/tileset when it is uploaded. This can be viewed before downloading, either by having it displayed under level info, or clicking on a link in the level info. (This is a really cool idea. Please consider it.)

Those are all I can think of for now! Make J2O the best site on the web! Make us Jazzers proud!

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Here is a unique idea : Put a link to the server from the GIP with the most players playing in it on the main page. (Of course, it would be a public server.) This would be a quick way to play Jazz and you wouldn't need to check the GIP.
That's would slow down the main page so much it wouldn't be worth it.

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For some reason some features on J2O do not work unless I turn off my firewall temporarily. For example, I cannot view reviews of pictures or articles. But I can see reviews of levels! Strange. Anyway, fix this if you can.
I've never heard of anything like this before, I'd like to know more about that.
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We have Norton Personal Firewall, which is a software based firewall (as opposed to hardware firewalls.) When I try to view an article, for some reason the page just doesn't load until I briefly turn off the firewall and turn it back on. Pictures load, but the reviews/comments on it also don't until I turn the firewall program off briefly. I need to check if reviews of websites load...

As well, I think in order to login I also have to turn it off. Everything else I can do! I can even play JJ2 online with the firewall running, so I am not sure why the pages don't load. It might be too difficult to figure out.

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Can't believe nobody thought of this. Have the ability to rate reviewers. THIS could work better than rating strictness. Anyone can rate a reviewer from 1 to 5 for good reviews and sensible rating. Their rating would be displayed above each of their reviews, and could be used to influence a levels average rating (if you go with the idea to alter the ave rating based on who rates it.) Raters like Aiko would probably get a high score, and thus their reviews would carry more weight, and ppl would trust their scores.
The problem with that is, people who don't like someone would just give them a 1, most likely.

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As well, when the author reuploads something, move the level back to the top of the list so ppl are aware of the reupload. This also encourages authors to reupload levels instead of uploading version 2s, etc.
Would their levelID be changed? If so, that would leave lots of non-working files. If not, they're no longer really in order.
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Okay, then admins could give reviewers ratings! (That would definetly work)
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I'd like that reviewer reviewing-thing,since there are some guys who are really(how am I supposed to say it...)strange at reviewing.
(I don't say a name okay?)
There are VERY few levels that deserve a 1! And it's a VERY bad rating,so,to be used with caution!

Coming to the thread,J20 is really cool but could really use a few features(which are already mentioned I guess).
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Fix the banner that link to j2o.nagcentral.com, heh
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-Remove the About, Characters, Party Mode and JCS links.

-1) When you upload a level you should make it so that the 'Level Type' area is a text box, and so you can type in the kind of level you made.
-2) If last idea won't be made then add to the drop down list: Survivor, Test, LRS, XLRS, Assasination, Cycle Battle, Bank Robbery, Jail Break, Gladiator, Instagib, etc...

-Make an explanation of the game's new JJ2 modes that don't come with the game. I.e. Survivior, Test, LRS, XLRS, Assasination, Hotel, Cycle Battle, Bank Robbery, Jail Break, Gladiator, Instagib, etc. (I dunno what Gladiator and Instagib are)

-Hmm, make a link to most common programs that all JJ2ers should already have.
a. Listserver Patch 1.23
b. Listserver Patch 1.24
c. TSF Race Patch
d. Overlords JCS Patch
e. AntiAccess Violation Patch (Although this patch I noticed has too many bugs, and needs improvement, because I still get 1000s of AV error windows. There are different types of AV errors.)
f. 1.23 upgrade
g. Jazz2 Uninstall Aid
h. Mod2j2b
i. ModPlug Player
j. ModPlug Tracker
etc...

-A separate section in the Links page that's titled Jazz2 help. And it would add links to Overlords MCE/SCE/Ambient Sound/Other Stuff page. Ninja Dodo's JCS Help page also, etc...

-A separate tilesets page that include all the JJ1 remasked and new conversion tilesets.

-An option that allows you to delete your old Private Messages for both JCF and J2O.

-Make it so you don't have to type in your Username and Password everytime you wanna review or do anything on the site, instead make it so if you try to anything on the site that requires site registration then when you try to do the thing it will forward you to the J2O login page.

More ideas later maybe...
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Remove the About, Characters, Party Mode and JCS links.
Amen. Those just torture meh.
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I don't think they should be deleted, they just should actually link to something.
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Try reading the topic before posting stuff. A lot of what has been said recently has been said before.
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I'm amazed no one has mentioned this yet, but MAKE IT SO THE CUSTOMIZATION THING WORKS. The yellow layout, while OK, reminds me too much of...well...uh...happy. It is a bit bright for my eyes.
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Yeah, I wanna make it look more like J2C!

EDIT : Yes, I mean color scheme. The black and blue is awesome. Why did the JCF lose that as an option? Does Deth really not even want us to use the same colors? I still don't understand what happened back then, Dethman went mad, closed the JMMB without warning, didn't allow this board to be called JMMB2 or anything related to it, etc. etc. What's wrong with using the color sceme, though?
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Actually, J2C's layout seemed haphazard to me.

If you mean color scheme, I'll go for that.

I like Dark Moogoo's red and black JCF theme, though.

J2O *should* be color-customizable, but there is a glitch that errors out whenever you change a color.
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hehe, we're WAY ahead of you guys. It already works completely

Plus, you can choose between thick borders, thin borders, OR (drumroll please)...Thick on outside and thin on inside! Are we great or what!?

Also, I've been meaning to code in support for additional header/footer templates (not just colors). But as of currently, color customization works fully
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Add Something like Quik Reply to the News->Comment

Add the Tags B I U SIZE URL IMG QUOTE STRIKE
and make it so we can actully edit our Comments,
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a Search Function for Pictures News post Articles Would be Nice too
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I would like to see the "comments" area in some way integrated with the JCF, as it would prove to be an interesting community event discussion.
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Quick reply for news comments isn't currently coded, but it's a good idea...maybe I'll code it when I get some time

Search functions are not coded, but planned.

Also, integrating news comments into the JCF would be very easy, there's only one tiny problem...there are MANY people registered at J2O that aren't registered on the JCF. And if we integrated it, then their J2O username would be completely pointless. I thought about it (not with news comments, but removing the J2O PrivMsg system, and just using the JCF one), but FQuist gave me a through beating, so sorry, but that one won't happen. Good idea though, that's how DJ's (Dimension Jazz, my old JJ2 site ) news system worked. We could do this if Quist agreed to reset the J2O userbase, but then we'd have to reset downloads, articles, pictures, etc. all back to zero, and that wouldn't be good, would it?

Also, I have just begun to learn the agony of being in High School (I have very little time, and so much homework), so I don't know how often I'll be able to work on J2Ov2. From what Quist tells me, he's busy with schoolwork, or being sick Don't get us wrong, we want to work on it, we just have a severe lack of time, that's all

Keep submitting ideas!
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I'm busy with both, actually.
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Yes, yes, finally, color schemes. I despise yellow =P However it would be even better if it could be fully customizable as far as layout and stuff goes.

I was thinking that if there are any levels that could extremely low ratings (3 and under I guess) that they could be automatically deleted after so-many ratings...or perhaps integrate it with the rating-weight, so that if just a few of those reviewers with more influence rated it extremely low it would be deleted sooner, though I suppose that might now be fair as far as user ratings go. Anyway, it would help to filter out some of the really bad stuff automatically.

Also, maybe expand the Top Downloads on the main page to more than 5...maybe 10? Or 20? I know it's hard for any new reall really good levels to get into the Top Downloads list because its so small and people who just see the main page are much more likely to just download the top few levels and not go into the Downloads section.

Anyway, I have to go right now, so that's all for now.
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Idea:
Make a little chat-box, 130x400 or so. And put it somewhere on a side of the (home)page, left or right. Not in the center.




Sorry, if someone already figured this, dont have much time to read the entire topic.
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That's a good idea...like a tagboard like on SJ =P
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v2 should have a big sign saying "ALL HAIL ~SPLASH~". Serious! I'm not kidding!

how about a better integration of the boards in the real site? Don't ask me how, though
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My suggestion is to drop the pictures section.
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I'm holding FQuist hostage. If you do not heed my demands, he gets the big troutslap. Got it? Good. I know many of these aren't necessarily related to J2O v2 and are just general ideas. These all may sound stupid, but please don't flame me. These aren't "I'm-100%-sure-it-will-work" ideas, more like "might-be-interesting-to-be-in-the-future" ideas.

1. Word wrap for comments. Yes, Nebula, you know what I'm talking about. ;P
2. Add a "recent downloads" bar to replace "recent articles." Heck, have both.
3. Make the Hail Trafton and Torture Trafton sections. The second one will be loved. You can delete the first as quickly as possible.
4. Have more updated news that doesn't show on page one. Have a "news patrol" or similar to go out and get news, but don't show it on the main page until it is verified to be true and significant.
5. Incorporate pie and marmalade in some way.
6. NO BANNER ADS. NO MATTER WHAT.
7. Let users add ideas more often. Add features as you go online, so we don't have to wait a year and a half for new features.
8. Add review moderators. I know this sounds stupid, but the truth is that a lot of personal attacking and swearing goes unnoticed on the J2O review section. There are many people who would make great and honest review moderators.
9. Don't let people with the same name, heck the same IP, review a level with a rating.
10. Have more clear reviewing rules. The current review rules aren't, well, always clear to understand. And they're hard to find, too.
11. Make it so if you select "tileset" or "other," etc. that you don't have to select a used tileset.
12. Add more often-used tilesets to the tileset used list. Good examples would be Cheq 3, Tavern, Cool Day, etc.
13. Don't allow uploads of pets on the pictures setting unless their owners are also in the pictures.
14. Have J2O automatically rate levels that I make 10.
15. Have a mail or private message automatically sent to an administrator if a review is made of a level that is significantly below or above the current average of the level. This is especially nice because I've noticed some will wait until a level falls off the first few pages (so nobody will be reviewing it unless they find it on random level) and then post an usually unfair score.
16. Make it as customizable as it can get. I love to tweak options for some reason and get it as custom as I can. Many do.
17. Add content that would slow down index loading pages as options so that cable users can see them on their main page while 28.8K Jazzers don't have to suffer through a seemingly endless page load.
18. Correct the error that makes a level rating still appear as the average even after someone has changed the rating to N/A.
19. Add an option for email notification of when a level you've made is reviewed.
20. Add a filter to the reviews section, darnsporkit.
21. Let Derby do everything for you.
22. Make it so it's easier to make a custom theme with every little thing your custom color.
23. There is no 23, but I like the number 23, so I put this here anyway.

NOW DO YOUR JOB AND TEAR MY IDEAS TO BITS! ;P

...I might even keep FQuist for LAB EXPERIMENTS. >;)
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Make J2O compatible with the Opera browser (I'm using it). That shouldn't be hard to do, the only problem I encountered is the table spacing.

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Also, integrating news comments into the JCF would be very easy, there's only one tiny problem...there are MANY people registered at J2O that aren't registered on the JCF. And if we integrated it, then their J2O username would be completely pointless. I thought about it (not with news comments, but removing the J2O PrivMsg system, and just using the JCF one), but FQuist gave me a through beating, so sorry, but that one won't happen. Good idea though, that's how DJ's (Dimension Jazz, my old JJ2 site ) news system worked. We could do this if Quist agreed to reset the J2O userbase, but then we'd have to reset downloads, articles, pictures, etc. all back to zero, and that wouldn't be good, would it?
Is it possible to manually match the names though? It would be a lot of work, but you could get people to help. If someone is registered at J2O but not at the JCF (or vice-versa), add a new account.

I think a totally integrated wonderful feature like this is worth any amount of work required to do it.
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Fl@sh: Neither FQuist or I have Opera, but I've noticed that in the past, that when something goes wrong in Opera, it goes wrong in Mozilla (both are standards-compliant browsers). I have mozilla, and actively check for problems like this, so we've got it covered.

Link: Yes, manual name matching would be very possible. I guess we might be able to set something up on J2Ov1 (current J2O ) that let you enter your J2O username, and your JCF username (if they have one). Although the more I think about it Link, I see no reason why we'd need J2O to syncronize with the JCF. From the way FQuist and I have been developing it so far, there is no need for the JCF, it runs perfectly fine without it. I've coded a super-l33t PM system, our comment and news system is working, I really don't see a point in the syncronization. We pay put in something that lets you put a link in your J2O profile that links to your JCF profile, and possibly vice versa, but I can't really imagine anything more than that this far into the project.
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Opera is only 3,5 MB big. It shouldn't take too much time to download and check it :P
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Nov 23, 2002, 10:03 AM
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Opera 7 (a beta), right? Opera 6.05 doesn't have that problem.
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I don't have Opera installed because my computer is bloated enough as it is.
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Hmm...another suggestion:
Maybe you could make it so that extra N/A comments can be added in reviews that do not go towards the author's review count? Just an idea.
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In addition to that, maybe don't allow the author of the upload to review their own upload, even it's a N/A comment.
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In addition to that, maybe don't allow the author of the upload to review their own upload, even it's a N/A comment.
I'm not sure I like that idea. It would stop the level maker from replying to the comments of the reviewers.
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yes. They will be able to comment (no rating).
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