the way i see it its illegal to download jazz 1 but your doing less harm downloading jazz 1 than if you download a tune from kazaa.

more than likley if you went in to a shop you could buy a cd with the tune you downloaded but if you went in to a shop (in england anyway) and wanted to buy a jazz jackrabbiit game they will have probly never have heard of it.

yes epic classics are selling it but they make it hard for you to buy it, who likes the idea of posting money halfway across the world and hoping it gets there one day?

It's weird that Epic Classics (another company) is selling Epic MegaGames' old titles. It shows that Epic Games Incorporated are totally careless about their own for example Jazz Jackrabbit.

Originally Posted by Karmus

It's weird that Epic Classics (another company) is selling Epic MegaGames' old titles. It shows that Epic Games Incorporated are totally careless about their own for example Jazz Jackrabbit.

Epic Classics, I'm sure, is related to Epic. It's probably just a matter of law, honestly.

~ Traft

What, is this topic back again?

DIE! DIE!
*smashes with a hammer*

Originally Posted by Flamepanther

What, is this topic back again?
DIE! DIE! *smashes with a hammer*

I think most people know the point of this topic.
*Reverting to my Duke Nukem quote earlier, when he kills a boss*

Abandonware is no more or less illegal than warez. Remember, if the company that makes it doesn't declare it as freeware, then it's still illegal. The only real difference is that abandonware is old software that people think that companies don't care about anymore, and warez is usually more current. But from a legal standpoint, you're still not allowed to download either without permission.

See, the problem here is copyright. Software falls under the same category as books. While it is a good thing that the owner of the copyright gets compensated for their work, the bad part is that there is no law that distinguishes between software, and other works (books, music, etc...) So that means that the copyright on JJ1 is valid for the same length of time as it would be for a book. And that is, if I remember correctly, the life of the author plus 70 years.

So by the time that we're all dead, and any computer that would play JJ1 is behind a locked glass case in a museam, we'll be able to download and play JJ1 for free. :-)

Before then though, JJ1 without purchasing it or owning an actual CD or disk set is illegal without official word from Epic that it is freeware. So this discussion is pretty much a moot point.

But who knows, maybe they'll release it one day. I remember once that the developers for Castle of the Winds gave that away for free. That was on Epic's Mega Message Board. (even before the JMMB) if I digged hard enough I might even be able to find the email that I got from the developer who sent me part 2 as an attachment. So keep your hopes up, maybe one day we'll get it!

Btw, according to the "original" argument that no computers/hardware today will run JJ1, I'd have to say that you're wrong. Buy a computer, put windows 98 on it (yes, microsoft still supports it. In fact they just extended the support date on it.) and underclock your processor. Yes, I know it's a bit extreme, but hey... it can be done. :-) Just because computers today come preinstalled with XP on them, it does NOT mean that it is the only OS out there.

You know what would be cool, if the source code of Jazz1 could be released. I've seen it done with Rise of The Triad and Duke Nukem 3D recently. And there are some very nice developments there. (For more information visit the 3DRealms website.)

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Originally Posted by Newspaz

You know what would be cool, if the source code of Jazz1 could be released. I've seen it done with Rise of The Triad and Duke Nukem 3D recently. And there are some very nice developments there. (For more information visit the 3DRealms website.)

That's why I use Dukester X (I'm a beta tester) and the w32 ports to play multiplayer under sucking XP (it actually sucks!). I hope Shadow Warrior also will get possible to play with port someday. People are begging like mad.