People always like to complain about the lag they had, when the opposition supposedly had just as much (or more) lag.
I keep taking note, day in and day out how huge an effect lag has on each and every real-time online match-up.
If there were no lag (the impossible dream), I'd have had twice, thrice (or more) as much chance of winning well over 65 % of the matches I've played.

First things first; Mav and I leave the tournament. We haven't managed to get a single match finished, despite being online a looot.

Reasons:
1) Some teams are imposisble to reach (read: Zaba)
2) My connection has prevented me to play evening time, but still, we haven't even been able to play against people in the weekends
3) Most importantly, the tournament arranging is flawed. Why are there no backups in the teams? Why is there a ridiculously huge amount of teams in? To be honest, I only think the tournament has a slight chance of finishing because of massive forfeits.

Lastly, Quickz not having made the rules himself, and not applying them fairly (that means; as they are written) has added up to my personal annoyance, which doesn't make me more eager to stay in the tournament.

Hitch nice try to edit the log. GG

Originally Posted by Grytolle

First things first; Mav and I leave the tournament. We haven't managed to get a single match finished, despite being online a looot.

Reasons:
1) Some teams are imposisble to reach (read: Zaba)
2) My connection has prevented me to play evening time, but still, we haven't even been able to play against people in the weekends
3) Most importantly, the tournament arranging is flawed. Why are there no backups in the teams? Why is there a ridiculously huge amount of teams in? To be honest, I only think the tournament has a slight chance of finishing because of massive forfeits.

Lastly, Quickz not having made the rules himself, and not applying them fairly (that means; as they are written) has added up to my personal annoyance, which doesn't make me more eager to stay in the tournament.

I personally gotta agree with this, yes. Not many people care about playing at all really, too many teams, no more than 2 people per team.
Anyways, whatever

That means...that the Black Bracket will become the easiest one by far, most likely.

I don't know if just one or two backups help a lot, because it's just certain people who are inactive/unavailable at certain times. It would be better to go for a clan-tournament to have minimum amount of forfeits. You see, Red and Blue brackets are progressing well, while Yellow and Black brackets only have 1 match completed each. I wouldn't really put all blame on Quickz.

I didn't. But he could have done a lot to prevent forfeits. Limiting the amount of teams, requiring substitutes, etc

Originally Posted by Vivando

Black bracket only have 1 match completed each. I wouldn't really put all blame on Quickz.

I do. There is another match that has been played but CERTAIN people are too chicken to admit it.

And yah a 3 people teams will rock.

Well, I tried to arrange matches in my bracket, but the only team which took this a bit seriously and with which I could set the date was RHPS (Yasco/Sq). Still, we didn't finish our match yet =/

Wenn I set the date of our match with Dragon/Wielki, I was the only person who was online and able to play at the set time. So the problem is that some people only joins the tournament and later don't care about it.

Really, no one from my opponents contacted me to set the date of our match etc. So what can I do more? It's obvious that this tournament will never end without technical wins.

Originally Posted by Anubis

Hitch nice try to edit the log. GG

Huh?

Okay, so it's obvious the groupstage is failing. It's 3 days to the deadline, but I'm not gonna wait for matches that won't be finished anyway. So, that means the Final Stage (or K.O.-stage) can start now. The teams who performed well have 'easier' draws than the inactive teams. So forget your groupstage-matches and start concentrating on the K.O.-stage. Also, check out the updated rules and mappool.

First of all, 2 inactive teams are out now, which are Majorek/SkulL and speeza/crazy. That means 18 teams are left, so 4 teams should play for 2 spots in the draw: the winner of Ragnarok/PurpleJazz vs. Hitch/Birdie (I'll use the Red Bracket standings for that one) will face Squirrel/Yasco. The winner of Dragon/Wielki (who didn't show up for one match) vs. valmango/Master Sven will face Grytolle/Maverick. For other match-ups, use the link in my signature. Since this is kinda new, the deadline for the 1/8 finals will be 16 March.

All the deadlines for the Upper Bracket:
1/8 Finals: 16 March
Quarterfinals: 26 March
Semi-finals: 6 April
Final: 13 April

A match now is best-of-3. So if both teams win one round, a deciding round has to be played. If both teams can't agree, the Supervisor or any Official will decide.

Interesting.
Gry and Mave in again it seems too.
Oh well, gl then I guess =P hope the matches will get played this time =]

Originally Posted by Vegito

Oh well, gl then I guess =P hope the matches will get played this time =]

Yes, well, it should be easier to arrange one single match, since you can focus only on that o ne. Also, the inactive players are out now. All 'rounds' are like 1,5 weeks with at least one weeekend, so that should be enough.

yeah. a weeekend will surely help

I hope FS and i will have the time now. We were already rather close to playing the game with Sasik, so i really hope this works out now..

Go and play already > : (

Wielki and Dragon, come online plz....:P

At least Dragon is on relatively all the time.

Wait... Officials? What are officials for? And can we (people who are in the Upper Bracket) fight already, or must we wait for the others who aren't yet or something, or what?

I'm afraid that's the main thought in everybody. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PLAY YOUR MATCH BEFORE 9TH MARCH.

Originally Posted by IconGuy

Wait... Officials? What are officials for? And can we (people who are in the Upper Bracket) fight already, or must we wait for the others who aren't yet or something, or what?

Yes, you can play. PLEASE PLAY, lol.

Officials: since it's now best of 3 (level team 1, level team 2, neutral level) in rounds, you'll need people to decide on a neutral level if needed. There are uhh, 5 officials, so you can ask an unbiased one.

Also, they can decide together how to progress when problems occur.

So lol what happens if someone hasn't played their games?

Unless this tournament doesn;t revive itself, or rather, unless people start caring to organize games, this tournament is dead

The competitive scene is only distantly alive.

Anyway, I'm not one of those people who make the first effort, anymore.
Too many times in the past have people turned me down for my efforts.
Especially with jj2 associated stuff, lately.

But I'm willing to play just about anytime.

Seems Wii players have ssbb in their mind.
*cough* Birdie *cough*

Is tourney actually dead? Or it's dead only for teams which haven't played their matches?

Originally Posted by [valmango]

Is tourney actually dead? Or it's dead only for teams which haven't played their matches?

Isn't that the same thing? Tournaments fall because of players not playing.

Hmm...is this tourney officialy dead now? Or not? XD

Well, since Rep decided that he is "too good for me" and left the team, I dunno much about the activity. But, the fact that the team fell apart itself might slow things down. And other people dosen't seem to play any matches...


Not officialy til Quickz post it here, but yah, it's dead. Can be revived... I guess. But it's not going to happend.

Problem is almost nobody cares about tournaments at all. Actually, half of the people don't even know this thread exists. ;\

I care about tournaments... but the motivation is a looot higher when it's clan related.

And when it actually is a tournament which isn't doomed to fail because of no back ups

Originally Posted by Grytolle

I care about tournaments... but the motivation is a looot higher when it's clan related.

JJ2WC....

VS, CC, 8D, AMC, iR.. perhaps SoL?

yeah, it does seem possible to have another JJ2WC season now.

(duel tourneys have always been better though)

Sure, after we've finished the last one!

that may as well last forever

Originally Posted by R3ptile

VS, CC, , AMC, iR.. perhaps SoL?

yeah, it does seem possible to have another JJ2WC season now.

Don't forget about TUX ;P

No, I don't care about any jj2wc

And ZEC >[
How about a tournament WITH BACKUPS OMGWT(-)BBQ

Now is a great time to remind you of the 3v3 tournament possibility

y 3 people per team would've been great, because im pretty sure many more games would have been played if every team had had a backup player.

Any non-clan tournament will fail

'I (R3ptile) have finally decided to quit my job as the supervisor of JJ2WC. Yasco (and perhaps Sasik?) are now the men in charge, and any questions regarding the tournament and its future should be addressed to them.'