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I didn't expect it could really happen, but it did this time. A player injured during the tournament (not in the game though), so that he couldn't play for a while anymore. He is Czech, who reported me that his arm is broken, and so decided to leave the tournament, due to that. Get well soon!

Anyway, Fox progresses and his next opponent is sliver. Deadline is December 13th, and tiebreaker is Galactic Warfare, if needed.

Also Warrior vs Quickz was played. It was a fairly close match, although Warrior won both two rounds. His next opponent is clear once the duel I mentioned above is played. Until then, Warrior can have a pause.
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A fairly big pause probably. xD
Anyway, best reason ever to give up on a tournament.
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The tournament has been "progressing" slowly meanwhile I have been lazy to post anything here. Basically it means that nothing very interesting has happened here. First Fox got a walkover from sliver who quite didn't show up when needed nor did show any interest to play his remaining duel(s.) Same thing with Warrior vs Fox happened just a moment ago. Fox would mainly appear online to me during noon-afternoon, while Warrior was more active in the evening somehow, although they both come from the same country. It was a hard decision to make, but eventually something had to be done, or else this tournament would delay by several months like DIT v1 did. Warrior generally showed more interest in playing his duels and asking his opponents, so that way I made my decision however.

So, yet again it means that Warrior progresses to the next duel, and has now won himself a prize with FawFuL and Vegito, but still there are 2-3 duels remaining. LB Final, and Grand Finals. Next one is of course:

FawFuL vs Warrior, deadline January 10th and tiebreaker level is Toxin Twister.
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I wonder why not much interest was shown over the 4th/3rd place fight since there WAS a price..
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Who paid the price?
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I payed my own price, nespresso, what else
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Due to Warrior's request, I postponed the deadline by a week, which is now the absolute one. I really hope the duel gets played until then. Also, I'll be making an exception in the rules, since this is sort of a finals-match for Bronze, I'm allowing FawFuL and Warrior to pick any levels from the pool here again, even the ones they used twice. However, tiebreaker still remains Toxin Twister.
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Since the tournament was drawing near it's end, I removed all the deadlines, and so I just request the remaining players to duel as soon as possible. Warrior vs FawFuL, was finally played, after a long, long while from the previous tournament match. This match got delayed/postponed several times, but at last it has been played. Only 1 or 2 matches remain. However, we now have a Bronze Medalist.

JJnet Duel Tournament v1.0 3rd place: Warrior

Congratulations!

Also, a prize should be there soon, try contacting DanZeal for that. You may also refuse the prize, of course, and just have the honor.

So this means, that the Grand Finals will be a rematch between Vegito and FawFuL. Of course, to become the tournament champion, Vegito requires one victory, meanwhile FawFuL requires two, since Vegito didn't lose a match yet, as you probably know. Both players are allowed to pick any maps from the pool, except vetoes. Tiebreaker(if needed) is also up to them in the first place. There is no schedule for this match yet, but you may expect it to happen soon, I at least hope so.
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I lost (SBv2) 1-0 and (CotS) 1-0, 1 reason: airhits.

These matches were both lag biased, espescially in SBv2 I got hit 3 times only.. Neither of those times I even saw any bullet in my screen. Basically 3 airhits took the game from me and it was pretty boring of a game too.

In CotS I felt I was the better player although it was my 2nd duel there. I just couldn't kill him then in the end he killed me anyway.

And now I will be mean:

I will be going on holidays tomorrow, I will only get back late next week in which I will then meet an american friend and leave for Belgium almost the same day. After that I will have 7 days of work, then I will leave for Germany. I will not be able to play for some 4 weeks straight.

Due to Warrior and FawFul taking so long I likely have to forfeit the 2nd round as FawFul does not want to play the 2nd round now either. Therefore I wish to tell him GG but being OVER ONE MONTH LATE him playing against Warrior I highly blame them. Just as refusing to play again I highly disagree and hate it for that but there's no reason to drag this on any longer. Good job dragging the tournament on just long enough till I have to forfeit probably.

This tournament was supposed to end in 2009. It was even lucky I could play today still and hoped I'd win but this is just LAME. Refusing to play/pausing the duel tournament for about 1.5 month to then win the finals because I lack the time is pretty awesome.

Maybe we'll meet in March for second round, it's not final yet but I do express my strong feelings against how this went.
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I lost 1-0 and 1-0, 1 reason: airhits.

And now I will be mean:

I will be going on holidays tomorrow, I will only get back late next week in which I will then meet an american friend and leave for Belgium almost the same day. After that I will have 7 days of work, then I will leave for Germany. I will not be able to play for some 4 weeks straight.

Due to Warrior and FawFul taking so long I have to forfeit the 2nd round as FawFul does not want to play the 2nd round now either. Therefore I wish to tell him GG but being OVER ONE MONTH LATE him playing against Warrior I highly blame them. Just as refusing to play again I highly disagree and hate it for that but there's no reason to drag this on any longer. Good job dragging the tournament on just long enough till I have to forfeit.

This tournament was supposed to end in 2009. It was even lucky I could play today still and hoped I'd win but this is just LAME. Thanks for playing anyway and have fun with your win. Refusing to play/pausing the duel tournament for about 1.5 month to then win the finals because I lack the time is pretty awesome.
Yeah, this is very unfortunate. I would have kept the deadlines up if I only knew about your plans. Well, of course you told me a bit, but I had no idea of exact date, etc. The previous duel should have indeed happened several weeks ago, but it got delayed several times for whatever reasons. I cannot help with that anymore though.

So, I'm not yet confirming the final result, since the case is this. I'm leaving a chance for Vegito to still play later, and so I'm setting no deadline for now, since I didn't keep one for FawFuL either. Wouldn't be fair. It simply means that this tournament will still be on hold for another long while. After all it doesn't really hurt, since this tournament was supposed to end before 2010 anyway, and yet it didn't and I removed all kinds of deadlines.

@FawFuL: I suppose you should stay tuned for a possible rematch date later in the future, possibly a month forward on. Also don't take all the blame and pressure on your shoulders, since this is still only partially your fault. The previous duel should have been played earlier, you should have been less passive, Warrior should have been less passive, Vegito should have been more informative, and I should have been more dedicative probably. And I get your argument here. Refusing to play after a tiresome match at least makes more sense than refusing to play when you think the stars aren't at perfect position. However, since the case is as it is, you don't yet receive a technical victory.

About the match itself:

Vegito [0:1] FawFuL (Security Breach v2 - Vegito's choice)
Vegito [0:1] FawFuL (City of the Sn00zE - FawFuL's choice)

The matches were as close as they could be. Both played very carefully and passively, FawFuL perhaps a bit more passively even. That way the results were typical soccer result-like. The score in the first round happened at around 8th minute, but the only score in the 2nd round came during overtime (3rd minute.) This just shows to me how I should change the mappool next time maybe.
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Does this mean we can't choose the levels we choose now? =D. I hope.
Some of the levels added are just so extremely defensive biased it is barely fun to play. I didn't consider these duels fun because I felt I was the one who had to go offensive all the time.
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well i do feel kinda sorry the most and taking the pressure on my shoulders is quite obvious now. i think that it's kinda 80% my fault of it, or atleast, that's how i see it. my argument wasn't the best at all, and i would probably slaphead whenever i am full of energy again. But on a moment like that you are being in such a trance not coming out, being so tiresome hardly makes me being able to chose either what's good or not because you are only thinking of that atm, which is that i am totally tiresome mentally. from my view, saying stuff like this at 9 o'clock and kinda give me the feeling i am forced to play in a state i can hardly play and concentrate in. and when you're also striking back directly, because i did something wrong with the delaying stuff together with warrior, Doesn't have much to do with each other imo. after all IT does but not from what i could have known, atleast.

but yet i am sorry the whole communcation crushed because of my bad habits of discipline.

@veg, i also took your usual C area camp spot from the last (final Winner bracket) time in sbv2, veg :---)
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Let's focus on the positives, guys! Your duel provided irrefutable proof of how boring duelling is
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You will have to wait for the next tournament.
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don't worry gry, i won't forget how much teamplaying kicks (-)(-)(-) . our 2v2's . perhaps come back and play more often ?
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Let's focus on the positives, guys! Your duel provided irrefutable proof of how boring duelling is
Actually, I think it was boring mostly because they chose levels which can take ages for duels. Might want to consider something smaller and faster-paced next time if you didn't enjoy this
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Taken from JJnet News:

The JJNet Duel Tournament v1.0 was finished only a moment ago, as the very last duel of the tournament was played.

I have to admit it was a very exciting and close game, definitely worth the title of the Grand Final. The match could have gone either way, however Vegito took a 2-0 victory by winning 2 rounds with results 2-1, and 2-1.

This means the tournament results are now:

Winner: Vegito
Second: FawFuL
Third: Warrior

So, congratulations for the top three. If you want to receive your prizes, contact DanZeal .

I am glad the tournament is finally over, since it took an exceptionally long time to finish (not a record though.) The tournament began in September 2009, and lasted about 6 months, although it was supposed to end before the year 2010 already. It didn't happen. This edition was still a bit of an experiment, as it was the first edition, but after all it seemed to work very well in overall.

The tournament popularity was something that surprised me. The 32 spots filled up by sign ups in under 24 hours, which is amazing. Due to this, I'm planning to organize an even bigger tournament next time. You may expect a Duel Tournament v2.0 to begin in next August/September. I'm expecting next JDC season to be running next Summer as well, so we might probably start it during it, or a bit after. Expect some changes, like the mappool obviously.

Also, here's a brief match report about the Final Duel of the Tournament:

Round 1: FawFuL picked TCS as his map, since both players were allowed to pick anything from the mappool again(except VETOes of course.) Vegito picked Red Team. This round was slightly less exciting probably because of very careful play. However after approx. 2 minutes of playing, FawFuL roasts Vegito, and makes the first score. He holds his only score until the very last minute of the main timelimit, until Vegito roasts him, and ties the game up. Overtime awaits, and it lasts for about 2 minutes, until Vegito scores again and wins the round.

Round 2: Vegito picked BBSwing. FawFuL picked Red Team. This round was a real thriller. Vegito scored already in the first minute, and anything could have happened after that. FawFuL managed to keep Vegito on low score and often on low health as well. Vegito pretty much lost the control, once Faw scored after Vegito's 3hk around halfway. After that, there were a lot of close situations where the match could have ended, especially during overtime, which came in again. They even managed to double kill each other. However, after about 3 minutes of overtime, Vegito finishes the round, and the whole tournament.

You can look at the match details here.



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Actually, I think it was boring mostly because they chose levels which can take ages for duels. Might want to consider something smaller and faster-paced next time if you didn't enjoy this
Your comment has been noticed. A part of the levels here weren't that much duel-suitable after all. The next mappool is being planned already, and will consist of different and smaller maps. Only two maps from the previous pool will follow to the second tournament, the rest is all going to change.
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I guess both I and Faw didn't want a duel like last time either and therefore chose better levels to duel in . It worked well, just a bit laggy sadly. Thanks though.
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Watch the duel in BBswing here.
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Congrats Veg, and I'd like to suggest longer individual matches for DT2 (quick ones don't always reflect who's actually better, and are often random and based on luck and such..).
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Remember not to include campy-as-hell levels like SBv2 in duel tournaments again.
You also don't want to include levels with lots of carrots like CotS, because in duels it's easy to stay back and recover all the time.
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Congrats Veg, and I'd like to suggest longer individual matches for DT2 (quick ones don't always reflect who's actually better, and are often random and based on luck and such..).
The reason why the timelimit was only 10 minutes, was because the duels were much easier to arrange that way. Players would surely have at least 20 minutes of free-time to play on each stage, who were more busy with studying, etc.

However, I still get your point. I will be probably increasing the timelimits a bit for the future tournament partly. This depends on the tournament-size and stuff.

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Remember not to include campy-as-hell levels like SBv2 in duel tournaments again.
You also don't want to include levels with lots of carrots like CotS, because in duels it's easy to stay back and recover all the time.
I got criticized about this already. As well, I am now sure about which levels now fit into the concept better from that mappool. As I said, I will pick only a pair of the smaller maps for the next mappool, and CotS/SBv2/similar levels are out for sure.
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