I don't think Cracco considers it straightened out. As for the "former clan leader" being thickheaded thing, would that be CB? In that case, that's a personal semi-attack. I would edit your post just in case.

Now 2nd it is very bias to allow only DM members to become Admins, and I know plenty of cool and nice people who should be admins but don't play often enough to maintain the forums.

I don't have a clue what makes you think that only DM members could be admins. If you look at the admin list on the JCF, J2O and JDC, you will find that while many of the admins might be in DM, all of these people were made admins before DM existed at all.

Another reason there are so many DM admins or mods is that DL and MERC (came to form DM though a couple mergers) have always valued participation in the community.

The decision of whether to make someone an administrator or anything like that is based upon various things, but never clan.

It would be nice if you got rid of some of the inactive moderators, some haven't posted in over 6 months.

(I think I saw Brian in The New Word Assocation. Wow.)

It would be nice if you got rid of some of the inactive moderators, some haven't posted in over 6 months.

And get some new fresh moderators, :P


Trafton if someone *cough*hacked you how the heck could you get the chatlog?

because the person who is on your msn the chatlog should be saved to his comp not yours

I was given the chatlog by the people who the hacker talked with. The first time I saw that chatlog was when Newspaz posted it.

I don't believe this 'rebelion' is right. It's absolutely stupid. It's not as if we're a huge, big thing out there (not trying to be mean, guys, but how many people do you know just go to Google and type 'Jazz2Online'. Wait, forget I said that...). I do not believe one person could wreak so much chaos on a community to cause them to break, but I believe that's not what they're aiming for. Mainly I believe they just want to annoy us. That's my views.

Now, for the DM thing. Let's leave DM out; we don't want flame-wars now. I have been in one clan the three/fours years I've been on JJ2- GpW. Wow, that was completely pointless. Anyways, I still don't believe that all adims in outcome are in DM, if that was the case. I do not believe it is, however. If it was, I think that'd be extremely unfair. I know plenty of people here who have been just 'member's all their lives here. Being 2 or more years or such.

I believe alot, don't I? o.0;;; Wait... don't answer that....

If anyone was to become mod, I think that VelKasha would be wonderful. She obviously has pretty much that kind of a nature. *shrugs* Just a thought...

`Wildie

Originally posted by Wild Angel
I don't believe this 'rebelion' is right. It's absolutely stupid. It's not as if we're a huge, big thing out there (not trying to be mean, guys, but how many people do you know just go to Google and type 'Jazz2Online'. Wait, forget I said that...). I do not believe one person could wreak so much chaos on a community to cause them to break, but I believe that's not what they're aiming for. Mainly I believe they just want to annoy us. That's my views.

Now, for the DM thing. Let's leave DM out; we don't want flame-wars now. I have been in one clan the three/fours years I've been on JJ2- GpW. Wow, that was completely pointless. Anyways, I still don't believe that all adims in outcome are in DM, if that was the case. I do not believe it is, however. If it was, I think that'd be extremely unfair. I know plenty of people here who have been just 'member's all their lives here. Being 2 or more years or such.

I believe alot, don't I? o.0;;; Wait... don't answer that....

If anyone was to become mod, I think that VelKasha would be wonderful. She obviously has pretty much that kind of a nature. *shrugs* Just a thought...

`Wildie

They're definately not just aiming to annoy us, they want to change some things, things which other groups couldn't achieve with being peaceful. And also it's just a coincidince that most of the people they're after (about 60%) are in DM, and the rebels want the people they're after to stop acting like they're acting now, who're usually the people with a lot of power in clans and right here.

I don't think this topic really has a point, since there aren't any rebel leaders here to answer anything or defend their arguments.

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
They're definately not just aiming to annoy us, they want to change some things, things which other groups couldn't achieve with being peaceful. And also it's just a coincidince that most of the people they're after (about 60%) are in DM, and the rebels want the people they're after to stop acting like they're acting now, who're usually the people with a lot of power in clans and right here.

I don't think this topic really has a point, since there aren't any rebel leaders here to answer anything or defend their arguments.

If the rebels dislike the admins...go and build their own site. The admins either pay for J2O and all or are trusted people who have proven they are fair admins. They might think the admins are unfair, but who's better? The admins that a small group of people have a problem with? Or the group of people who are trying to 'rebel" If they were take over, they'd be worse than they claim the current admins are.

I'm not DM !

You know people,everything you say was already said a few times before!
What's the use of saying one and the same thing 5-7 times?

Now a comment:
Could the reason why so many DM members are admins be that most of the DM members are simply older than others and can take the responsability?

Admins:

Fquist - in DM, got admin while in Merc.
Bobby aka Dizzy - in DM, got admin while in DL
Nebula - not in DM
ShadowGPW - not in any clan
Cobra - not in DM
Brian - not in DM
Captain Spam - not in DM
DrJones - not in DM
Derby - not in DM

So.. less then 25% is in DM

At J2O:

Admins:

FQuist - in DM, got admin while in Merc. I founded the site so it's logical I'm admin.
Bobby - in DM: pays for stuff and has contributed a lot of code.
Evilmike - in DM: got admin because he's cool and helps us out a lot, got admin while in DL.
Cheeze - not in DM - contributed a lot of code
JJF - not in DM - designed j2o
Shadow - not in DM(or GPW, now) - got admin because of helpfullness
Nebula - not in DM, got admin because of all his help and he's a cool person

Originally posted by Fquist
Admins:

Fquist - in DM, got admin while in Merc.
Bobby aka Dizzy - in DM, got admin while in DL
Nebula - not in DM
ShadowGPW - not in any clan
Cobra - not in DM
Brian - not in DM
Captain Spam - not in DM
DrJones - not in DM
Derby - not in DM

So.. less then 25% is in DM

At J2O:

Admins:

FQuist - in DM, got admin while in Merc. I founded the site so it's logical I'm admin.
Bobby - in DM: pays for stuff and has contributed a lot of code.
Evilmike - in DM: got admin because he's cool and helps us out a lot, got admin while in DL.
Cheeze - not in DM - contributed a lot of code
JJF - not in DM - designed j2o
Shadow - not in DM(or GPW, now) - got admin because of helpfullness
Nebula - not in DM, got admin because of all his help and he's a cool person

60% of the admins they hate is in DM. They don't have anything against people like Cobra, Brain, Jones.

If anyone wants to talk with the real leaders and heads of the rebels get MSN and add:

shadow_xz@hotmail.com (Shadow)
blackenergy90@hotmail.com (Bolt)
Jewish_Pizza@hotmail.com (Piccolo)
jolt_zaps_you@hotmail.com (Jolt)
canadian778_4ever@hotmail.com (Canadian)

naw,

Erm,is that allowed?:\

And can you now Post a list of JDC Which People Have More Acces then Normal members

Quit living in a shadowworld get back to real-life kids

Mainly I believe they just want to annoy us. That's my views.

so true

If anyone wants to talk with the real leaders and heads of the rebels get MSN and add:

shadow_xz@hotmail.com (Shadow)
blackenergy90@hotmail.com (Bolt)
Jewish_Pizza@hotmail.com (Piccolo)
jolt_zaps_you@hotmail.com (Jolt)
canadian778_4ever@hotmail.com (Canadian)

If anyone does try to contact any of the "Rebels" then heres some advice for each one
ShadowXZ - Shadow has allready stated that he is no longer part of the rebel group, he left shortly after I did

Bolt - I don't think that trying to talk him out of doing what he's doing is gonna work...

Piccolo - you'll probably have just as unsuccessfull results as with Bolt

Jolt - I dunno anything about him, so no comment

Canadian778 - (CB, u forgot the last part of his name) - I'm not even sure if he has JJ2 and he's just as crazy as the rest

Basicly, contacting any of these people would get you absolutly nowere so don't waste your time.

You're probably right about not being able to reason with them Crono. They don't have time to argue cause they have to be in bed by 7:00pm
Well, nah. But I do have some addresses to add to my MSN block list.

NEW NEWS JUST IN.

J20 WILL HAVE COMPETITION;

ITS COMPETITION WILL BE J2OV2!!111

SO DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT A MONOPOLY ANYMORE.

---LoL ;-P

I don't think DM has a monopoly. Clans like FoR and TF are getting more members all the time. ;P

DarkShadow that's not what they mean with monopoly position of DM. They don't think that DM is the best clan of JJ2, in quantity or quality, but that they have 'power'.

Don't bother trying to talk to Canadian778. Judging from his posts, he won't say one intelligent word. And as for Picollo...well, I can't give you an unbiased thought about him, since he hates me a lot....and I didn't DO anything!...Must...resist...urge...to...rant.

The internet community is an anarchy. Power is relative here so nobody *has* it. People only have power here when they are given power by other people, because they come to someone's site or think a clan is good.

Well said Fquist!

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
They're definately not just aiming to annoy us, they want to change some things, things which other groups couldn't achieve with being peaceful. And also it's just a coincidince that most of the people they're after (about 60%) are in DM, and the rebels want the people they're after to stop acting like they're acting now, who're usually the people with a lot of power in clans and right here.

I don't think this topic really has a point, since there aren't any rebel leaders here to answer anything or defend their arguments.

Agreed.

`Wildie

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
DarkShadow that's not what they mean with monopoly position of DM. They don't think that DM is the best clan of JJ2, in quantity or quality, but that they have 'power'.

Just do a 3vs3 in an OFFICAL EPIC GAMES LEVEL vs DM
..... you lose IMHO..

If you win.. you get all my respect

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
I don't think this topic really has a point, since there aren't any rebel leaders here to answer anything or defend their arguments.

There are imho.

Originally posted by Unhit
There are imho.

*Quietly agrees*

Someone could interview them via MSN...

My god! Mike is taking their side!

EvilMike DM-EvilMike D2J!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mazinkaiser, that was a joke.

And if it wasn't a joke, it could also have been a clone huh? I've seen a lot of EvilMike clones lately.

Btw, DJ2? Why do I always miss the fun stuff that happens on Jj2? Grrr ;-P

It was a joke by the real Evilmike.

Sure... his joke ;P

I think it was a joke by him.
*I THINK*

I HAET THIS COMUNITY BECAUSE I GOT BANED FROM JCF FOR SAYING A PERSON TO GO (-) (/) AND THAT THEY ARE RETARDED. ISNT THAT RETARDED? NOW I MAK L33T TILKESETS WHICH INVOLVE SWEAR WORDS AND PICTURE OF NAKED ANIMALS BODY PART THIGNIES THINGS GLUED TO KEY DM AND GPW MEMBERS. YOU CAN JOIN MY CLAN IF YOU WANT. WE ROLE JJ2! WE HACK YOUY IF YOU DON'T AGRAE!

Derby: Content/Context edit.

OMG NO!!!!!!!!!! HELP!

Ugh Krezack went Insane *AGAIN* ;p

Originally posted by Unhit
imho.

What does that mean? ;P

Mooney?
It means"in my humble opinion"!
Ya should know THAT!

Thanks, Piccolo !