Originally Posted by Grytolle

Perhaps there could also be nipple stiffness and a more modest crotch bounce in icy levels?

I like where this thread is going.

Originally Posted by Darkhog

At this point I think it'd be better to just remake JJ3 from scratch in one of modern engines rather than trying to polish the turd. Let's face it - engine used to make JJ3 is OLD and no matter what you'll try, it will never look nearly as good as it could be if made in a modern engine such as Unity.

I could take care about coding as I'm a programmer, but there would be need for level designers, people who'd make textures/models, etc.

If this gets off the ground, I can do level design, and assist with coding if necessary.

Although I think we can all admit that's a pretty big "If".

...This thread took an interesting turn, hahahaha.

Originally Posted by Darkhog

At this point I think it'd be better to just remake JJ3 from scratch in one of modern engines rather than trying to polish the turd. Let's face it - engine used to make JJ3 is OLD and no matter what you'll try, it will never look nearly as good as it could be if made in a modern engine such as Unity.

Actually Unreal Engine 1.0 is still very good... And no, I'm not even joking here.
Try running old UE1 games on your modern machine. Chances are most of them will work flawlessly, even with proper widescreen resolutions (None of that stretched aspect ratio crap) and other handy things. It also provides excellent mod support.
And it just runs very well nowdays, with proper framerate and without any real compatibility problems. I have no idea how they did it but even most of the old beta and alpha UE1 things (Including JJ3) just run flawlessly. You can't really say that about like.... 99.9% other game engines out there that are as old as UE1.

What I'm saying here is... no, UE1 is not a turd. it's actually pretty awesome
The only real problem is that it's closed source and doing anything commercial with it would be somewhat problematic, as I'm sure Epic would just direct any UE1 developer to go and use their new high-tech UE4 engine that doesn't even have a proper scripting layer.

Also I've seen worse looking games made with Unity. it all really just depends on the developers themselves =)

Oh yeah, I completely forgot.
I actually worked on this one project some time ago for this one game development competition.
I was given ~2-3 weeks. Here's what I came up with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y2SEeZjU8Y

And yes, I was kinda inspired by JJ3. There's also some "Croc 3" in there, if you can find it.

Originally Posted by Jelly Jam

The turtle, lori and spaz look great . but lori has no nipples

If that's the case, where the hell did Spaz's penis gone?

Well as for sonic the hedgehog he hasn't any genitals.

Originally Posted by SAMI

If that's the case, where the hell did Spaz's penis gone?

Oh god this thread.

SAMI is ruining this thread.

Technically, Jelly Jam was the one who ruined the thread.

Originally Posted by Jelly Jam

The turtle, lori and spaz look great . but lori has no nipples

Anyway, can we get back on topic? Or at least vaguely in that direction? Or open a different thread for debating this nonsense?

when i tried file carrot2 under classic unreal editor carrot icon file vanish somewhere.It seems game don't accept realistic graphics or game is outdated.

Jazz....

So how did the humanoid Dipsy cosplay go? Looks like didn't go too well. Are you...into something with that blindfolded mouth and nose?

Yup...you're right,but I can't put my own basic textures as part of torso,chest and arms.I had problem with texturing the outdated original textures by separating body parts,but for blender texture mesh it's too small size.

Originally Posted by Treylina

Are you...into something with that blindfolded mouth and nose?

Originally Posted by Gamerz31w

Yup...you're right

Oh god.

What about feature of displaying levels like in game Unreal Classic Editor simulation and save and load feature in next patch update?

Originally Posted by Gamerz31w

next patch update?

Read the first post for the release date.


But on a serious note, this reminded me that I'm actually interested in working on some non-profit projects sometime soon... maybe this summer, we'll see.

Why never?Just work on second final patch with feature of saving progress(save/load doesn't working) and displaying levels in Unreal Gold Editor.That's it.

Game serialization isn't all that simple, but it's doable. I haven't looked into how Unreal did it. But I'm guessing it wouldn't be too insanely difficult to implement. Why don't you give it a shot? =)

As for viewing levels in "Unreal gold editor"...
Jazz3 used an earlier version of UE1. As far as I know, they also implemented some slight changes, but nothing major. Because of this, I actually attempted porting Jazz3 over to Unreal 277, but I only got partial success with that.
here's how far I got:



(No, it wasn't playable)

Yeah.Finished Save states was rebuild in unreal gold so it's the same code script.

Yeah game is outdated.

Any released game is technically outdated.

Originally Posted by Gamerz31w

Why never?Just work on second final patch ... That's it.

No.

So JazzGruff are you planning Dean Doondrill's Jazz Jackrabbit 3D(1999) in High Definition?

The game can already be run in higher resolutions. The textures will still be low quality, but that's not going to change.

Why are you so intent on doing stuff with JJ3? It's super old, unfinished and even though JazzGruff has done some cool things with it it'll always be an obviously incomplete alpha version. Nice to play as a curiosity, especially with the bugfixes the patch brings, but I don't think you'll really get anywhere with JJ3 itself. There's multiple free engines with great tool support around nowadays, why don't you go ahead and use those if you want to make new things.

I think EarthBound 64 was created on old Classic Unreal Gold Engine likewise Jazz Jackrabbit 3.

Originally Posted by Stijn

Why are you so intent on doing stuff with JJ3? It's super old, unfinished and even though JazzGruff has done some cool things with it it'll always be an obviously incomplete alpha version. Nice to play as a curiosity, especially with the bugfixes the patch brings, but I don't think you'll really get anywhere with JJ3 itself. There's multiple free engines with great tool support around nowadays, why don't you go ahead and use those if you want to make new things.

Well, actually, most of my friends find Jazz Jackrabbit and Jazz Jackrabbit 2 unappealing. However, when I showed them Jazz 3D, they were actually interested into it. Some people find 3D more appealing 2D. JJ3D is actually quite a great game, especially patched. Even though it's incomplete, I find it very enjoyable and would like to see more of it.

Someone thinks MOTHER 3 in 2D is more appealing than MOTHER 3 in 3D.Sorry it's mentioning Nintendo RPG game.

Mother (Or EarthBound) is not a Nintendo game. Those games were only published by Nintendo and had little involvement in their development.
Also EarthBound 64 (Aka Mother 3) most likely did not use UE1, as the N64 probably couldn't even handle it properly (Although that's arguable, I'd love to see it happen). Besides there probably wouldn't have been much of a reason to use UE1 for Mother 3, anyway.

Originally Posted by Primpy

Well, actually, most of my friends find Jazz Jackrabbit and Jazz Jackrabbit 2 unappealing. However, when I showed them Jazz 3D, they were actually interested into it. Some people find 3D more appealing 2D. JJ3D is actually quite a great game, especially patched. Even though it's incomplete, I find it very enjoyable and would like to see more of it.

I agree, one of the reasons why I actually wanted to do the patch was simply because I thought Jazz3 was pretty good for what it was (And also because, at the time, I wanted to expand my skills on a different engine). I'd love to see a game like this happen, even if it's not Jazz (Hint Hint, the game I'm making right now....).

Attachments means pictures?I don't create crazy thread.Maybe I have amnesia?

Stijn I thung you closed this thread?

This patch looks great, but where should I get JJ3? As I know, it was cancelled, and there is/are only (a) demo(s).

Originally Posted by Ja22

This patch looks great, but where should I get JJ3? As I know, it was cancelled, and there is/are only (a) demo(s).

Here you go
http://www.mediafire.com/?jzi8p275t4q0hhl
You need at least Unreal Gold GOG.com Edition only. If you have Windows 10 and you have no access to play use compatibility mode or install DoNotSpy10.If that so you need the lastest CloverGruff's Jazz3 1.3c patch.
If I'll fail my modelling skills again I guess attempts of brand new engine (perhaps someone who knows Cry Engine) maybe Unreal Engine 4 Stijn is going to ban me again perhaps forever.I promise I'm going to delete my stupid,inapropriate posts and fix models.I hope you will like it or this thread will disapear like his jazz3 patch and openjazz-2015(I hope you re-created jazz 1 engine)update.With little help of ModDB I can try to swap characters like mods in Sonic Generations.Using some brand new Unreal Engine 1 tools.
It's in T-Pose not rigged model
http://www.mediafire.com/?ps9jpgdpt4fg5ia
Did I send you private message JazzGruff before?

The Link Of Patch 1.3 Is Down D: Please Make Another One D:

Could someone please re-upload v1.3c? Thanks!

I still have the zip file somewhere still. Perhaps I'll put it on Mediafire or something when I have time. :P

Awesome, thanks man

https://ufile.io/vdcxk here.

It will expire in 30 days. I can still reupload though, I'm just too lazy to make accounts or look for better websites.

Originally Posted by JazzGruff

...
Downloads::
V 1.3c
https://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/...1.3c.zip_links

Reuploaded since the file got nuked.

Please give me a shout on Twitter, same handle as here, if you need help. I have a complete set of files, all originals.

Originally Posted by Jelly Jam

https://ufile.io/vdcxk here.

It will expire in 30 days. I can still reupload though, I'm just too lazy to make accounts or look for better websites.

It took me two days to find my set of files. I have reuploaded to MirrorCreator here, which uploads to a lot of places at once so there is no question: https://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/...1.3c.zip_links

I have built a small idea of what Jazz 3D should be. Something with potions and portals. Areas that unlock with newer weapons.

Thanks guys, much appreciated!

Guys I downloaded old alpha demo of Jazz Jackrabbit 3 demo and I downloaded 1.3c patch when I want to open some maps I can't move I mean preview each maps freely because this error is popping up even if I want extract some textures to shade them in Photoshop more realistic which Unreal engine 1 won't handle such strong GPU power.Never Stop Sneakin' have visuals just like Jazz Jackrabbit 3 so mods could be useful. Tell me how to fix it, please?

Hello, I also had this problem, look how you can solve it download unrealed from here http://www.unrealtexture.com/Unreal/...torPatches.htm and replace it. I have been working on Jazz 3 for a long time and I have knowledge of this engine, actually I want to finish jazz 3 but I do not think I can alone, I have many planned ideas. If you wish we could work together ��