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If you could ask the Jazz2 developer's anything, what would you ask?

Early this evening CliffyB came into #jj2 and was letting us ask him questions about anything. He only answered a few, but did "allude that he [Cliffy] and noogy are cooperating". Anyway, a couple questions were never answered, so I thought it might be interesting if I made a thread where people could ask any question Jazz2 related to any Jazz2 developer. Perhaps sometime one of them will stop by and take the time to answer all of them...

Anyway, two of the major questions asked that never got answered in #jj2:

Is it illegal to use Jazz or Spaz in a fan game?
Would it be possible to forward the old list server somewhere? (more or less)

And btw, Epic re-registed jazzjackrabbit.com until 2006 =/
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If a new Jazz game were to be made, would it be from scratch or would it borrow elements from the unfinished JJ3 pre-alpha? For example: The story, the ideas, the world

Would any of the rocking music from the pre-alpha be used, if a new Jazz game were to be made? Cause you can't go past Alexander Brandon.

Would it be legal to create the Jazz Jackrabbit characters for use in other games? Eg: player models etc.
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Why did you put the LASER shield in? Was it a QA testing thing which you added as a cheat, or what?
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Are you using JCS sometimes when you're bored?

Will there someday be a pacth fixing things like the CTF bug, or generally making JJ2 online gaming faster?
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Why in the world are you answering our questions? Are you SURE you are the real Jazz 2 developers and not just super evil clones from Mars?
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*puppy eyes* Can you fix the ammo respawn bug (ok, bobbu already did this, but it would be nice not to need a separate program for it) and the CTF bug?
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Here is a part of the log and chatter filterted most of it out.. have fun reading

[04:42:23] * CliffyB_Epic (cliffyb@dhcp-157.epicgames.com) has joined #jj2
[04:42:23] * AutoVoice sets mode: +v CliffyB_Epic
[04:42:24] <+Trafton> CliffyB Viewing Thread Buy Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Junk! and laughing. Laughing so manically. Laughing at the fools. Ha ha. Haha. Hahahahahahahaha. 07:33 PM
[04:42:34] * +Trafton freezes.
[04:42:36] <+Trafton> Hello.
[04:42:39] <+CliffyB_Epic> hey guys
[04:42:44] <@SlaYo> Maybe he's not laughing
[04:42:47] <@SlaYo> Hello
[04:42:49] <@[GpW]ShadoW> alo
[04:42:49] <+defalcon> erm, hello
[04:42:49] <@Spaztic> Hi.
[04:42:58] <+[GpW]BeAuMaN> 'ello
[04:43:01] * [GpW]ShadoW sets mode: +o CliffyB_Epic
[04:43:01] <@CliffyB_Epic> ask me anything
[04:43:06] <@[GpW]ShadoW> stunned
[04:43:11] <+defalcon> how come you bought Ed Duke Cox's maps? :P
[04:43:20] <@CliffyB_Epic> cuz they're good!
[04:43:39] <@CliffyB_Epic> and if you talk to him tell him to drop Jim @ scion a line ASAP
[04:43:43] <@[GpW]ShadoW> CliffyB_Epic: Jazz2 is 5 how ya feel that there are still gamers here
[04:43:49] <+defalcon> okay..
[04:43:54] <+[GpW]BeAuMaN> lol
[04:44:04] <@CliffyB_Epic> I'm glad. You're not all furries are you?
[04:44:05] <+Trafton> Hey, Sal.
[04:44:10] <+[GpW]BeAuMaN> Cliffy, how about you see us more often
[04:44:12] <+Trafton> ...No. Not last time I checked at least.
[04:44:15] <@Spaztic> Haha
[04:44:21] <@SlaYo> No, i shave
[04:44:27] <@CliffyB_Epic> I'd visit more often if we had a Jazz project that's active.
[04:44:34] <+[GpW]BeAuMaN> I see...
[04:44:39] <@Spaztic> =/
[04:44:49] <+[GpW]BeAuMaN> well, we hang out here... and talk about... everything but jazz it seems
[04:44:52] <@Spaztic> Understandable, though.
[04:44:52] <@SlaYo> Hi Sal
[04:44:55] <@CliffyB_Epic> noogy and I are working on some stuff but it's super early.
[04:44:57] <+sAlLAmAnDeR> Hello.
[04:45:03] <@CliffyB_Epic> just ideas now.
[04:45:08] <+Bobby_aka_Dizzy> so, how badly did the GBA bomb?
[04:45:10] <+[GpW]BeAuMaN> Spaztic talks about... stuff... and slayo talks about... his exploits of... ya... and....
[04:45:12] <+[GpW]BeAuMaN> stuffness
[04:45:17] <@[GpW]ShadoW> CliffyB_Epic: No am RTCW/Ut2k3 insta gib dude
[04:45:18] <+Trafton> How did JJGBA do? I've been wondering.
[04:45:19] <+defalcon> lol, nice and blunt, Bobt
[04:45:24] <@CliffyB_Epic> didn't see any of the numbers for the GBA game
[04:45:34] <+Trafton> Then I would assume they aren't good. =P
[04:45:40] <+TheChosenOne> haha, its not in stores around here
[04:45:40] <+Bobby_aka_Dizzy> ah, well it can't be good, releasing it a day before Christmas like they did
[04:45:42] <@CliffyB_Epic> never expected to make millions from it
[04:45:42] <@SlaYo> You probably wouldnt want to see them anyway
[04:45:43] <+TheChosenOne> nor has it been =P
[04:45:56] <@Spaztic> Is it illegal to put Jazz or Spaz in a fan game?
[04:45:57] <+Bobby_aka_Dizzy> they had problems with Jaleco
[04:46:00] <+defalcon> don't think it's sold here either
[04:46:16] <@[GpW]ShadoW> Europe never saw the game
[04:46:31] <+defalcon> nor Australia afaik
[04:46:35] <@SlaYo> Everybody was talking really bad about you before you entered
[04:46:58] <@[GpW]ShadoW> CliffyB_Epic: still got contact with the old dudes?
[04:47:03] <@[GpW]ShadoW> Arjan etc
[04:47:20] <@CliffyB_Epic> haven't talked to arjan for a while or nick
[04:47:26] <@CliffyB_Epic> just me and dean lately
[04:47:33] <@[GpW]ShadoW> he's still on ICQ some now and then
[04:47:41] <@CliffyB_Epic> Slayo: Yeah people got some (-) to say? Say it to my face then.
[04:47:41] <+Trafton> I must say it is surprising to see you here. =
[04:47:42] <@[GpW]ShadoW> visted the chap at LostBoys 2 times
[04:47:42] <@SlaYo> What are you working on, if i may ask?
[04:47:42] <+Trafton> =P*
[04:47:50] <@SlaYo> Thats right Clif
[04:47:52] <+Trafton> Hey, UR.
[04:47:55] <+Unknown_Rabbit> Hello.
[04:48:03] <@[GpW]ShadoW> SlaYo: [04:47:42] <@SlaYo> What are you working on, if i may ask? <_ that never works :P
[04:48:18] <@Spaztic> "He browses, laughing at us scornfully. He hisses betwixed his jagged Unreal teeth"
[04:48:18] <+Trafton> That never works. Nondisclosure agreements.
[04:48:30] * Altimit (~crono2k@63.224.202.242) has joined #jj2
[04:48:31] * AutoVoice sets mode: +v Altimit
[04:48:33] <@CliffyB_Epic> well (-) I already alluded to noogy and I collaberating
[04:48:34] <+defalcon> well considering some of Ed's maps were bought, I'm thinking possible ut map pack? :P
[04:48:48] <@CliffyB_Epic> more unreal stuff is a no brainer somewhere down the line
[04:48:57] <@CliffyB_Epic> and some other new shiznit
[04:49:02] <+Trafton> Of course. Unreal makes quite a lot of money, I'd say.
[04:49:03] <+defalcon> UWarefare?
[04:49:03] <+TheChosenOne> like?
[04:49:21] <@[GpW]ShadoW> CliffyB_Epic: OGL or CPL?
[04:49:46] <@CliffyB_Epic> anyone who follows us up can figure it out
[04:49:57] * +Trafton sits in the corner, not being UT-obsessed.
[04:50:05] <+defalcon> they did the winter CPL already, Shad
[04:50:05] * @SlaYo joins Trafton
[04:50:13] <+Trafton> Pickle, SlaYo?
[04:50:14] <@[GpW]ShadoW> defalcon: yeah but dropted the game..
[04:50:17] <@SlaYo> Sure pal
[04:50:20] * +sAlLAmAnDeR slaps Trafton.
[04:50:21] <+defalcon> ah
[04:50:27] * +sAlLAmAnDeR then joins him.
[04:50:27] <@SlaYo> Root beer, Trafton?
[04:50:31] <+Trafton> Sure.
[04:50:33] <@[GpW]ShadoW> defalcon: Angel Mourzsdfsdfs cant spell his name sux sometimes :P
[04:50:35] <+Trafton> Hi, Sal.
[04:51:08] <@CliffyB_Epic> understand that the platform market is DEAD now
[04:51:15] <+TheChosenOne> hah
[04:51:15] <+Bobby_aka_Dizzy> CliffyB: Is there any way we could get the old jazzjackrabbit.com list server back, or have list.jazzjackrabbit forward traffic somewhere?
[04:51:18] <+Trafton> I'm not sure an illegal-to-distribute demo of a no where near unfinished game is good.
[04:51:19] <+defalcon> Yes indeedy. The screenshots were impressive considering it was an early Unreal engine build
[04:51:30] <@SlaYo> You could bring it to the Next-gen consoles Clif
[04:51:34] <+TheChosenOne> =D hah
[04:51:36] <@[GpW]ShadoW> defalcon: Just time will tell
[04:51:36] <@Spaztic> No
[04:51:37] <+Trafton> No where near unfinished. Choose one of the negatives in that phrase and remove it.
[04:51:40] <+Trafton> Hey, iCed.
[04:51:41] <@Spaztic> Don't put Jazz on a console
[04:51:41] <@CliffyB_Epic> Slayo: Yeah, but those games aren't selling well.
[04:51:43] * +defalcon slaps Slay with a large trout
[04:51:44] <@Spaztic> Hi iCeD
[04:51:46] <+defalcon> NO CONSOLES ;P
[04:51:50] <+TheChosenOne> wow, so the word of CliffyB being here gets all the JJ2 fans here =P
[04:51:52] <+iCeD> Interesting indeed.
[04:51:53] <@SlaYo> Better then nothing
[04:51:54] <+iCeD> Hey.
[04:52:01] <@[GpW]ShadoW> indeed
[04:52:07] <+Trafton> I agree with SlaYo on this one - it's much better than nothing.
[04:52:08] <@CliffyB_Epic> Yeah, sorry, if Jazz comes back he's coming for console first then pc or simultaneous - not pc first
[04:52:18] <+Bobby_aka_Dizzy> It would be so great to get the old list server back, people would not need list server patches
[04:52:25] <@Spaztic> Ack.
[04:52:33] <+defalcon> Simultaneous then. :P He was born a PC icon, he should still be a pc icon :P
[04:52:34] <+TheChosenOne> Go for Gamecube. Seems to atract the jazz audience
[04:52:36] <@Spaztic> Asked twice now =P
[04:52:38] <+iCeD> Jazz not on PC first? that sucks
[04:52:40] <+Trafton> Well, Cliff...it's true that the platformer market is dead, but Jazz is a character that could start a franchise. It's family-friendly but he's still the "hero" stereotype.
[04:52:46] <+iCeD> Jazz always struck me as the icon of the PC.
[04:52:51] <+TheChosenOne> bah, he's a green rabbit.
[04:53:06] <+Trafton> I know that it wouldn't be a platform game, but as a character he could be a good franchise. I mean, if a plumber works, Hell, anything.
[04:53:12] <@CliffyB_Epic> Yeah, guys, Jazz 1 and 2 never really sold very well you know.
[04:53:13] <@Spaztic> Jazz3 would most certainly be 3D whether we like it or not
[04:53:23] <@Spaztic> I thought Jazz1 did
[04:53:24] <+defalcon> didn't JJ1 get platformer of the year?
[04:53:25] <@SlaYo> Cliffy, if there will be a jazz, make it a gamecube exclusive just to (-) the other people in here off
[04:53:29] <@Spaztic> Everyone knows Jazz 2 didn't
[04:53:32] <@[GpW]ShadoW> jj1 is 3d so notthing changes
[04:53:43] <@CliffyB_Epic> jj1 made me a bit of money and epic only because we sold it directly.
[04:54:03] <+iCeD> I thought JJ2 sold like a million copies.
[04:54:06] <+Bobby_aka_Dizzy> ah, but it also made your name as a company too
[04:54:07] <@CliffyB_Epic> it helped me move out of my moms into a 500$ a month apartment with a 10,000$ 1991 Saturn
[04:54:08] <@Spaztic> But Jazz2 was a real marketing flop, so a platformer would be out of the question
[04:54:12] <+iCeD> At least, I remember reading that on J2C
[04:57:35] <+[GpW]BeAuMaN> now i like CliffyB better than ever, we think alike, heh
[04:57:35] <@SlaYo> Questions that have to do with jj3
[04:57:58] <@[GpW]ShadoW> [GpW]BeAuMaN: hes the onlyone that makes time to check out IRC and site at all
[04:58:04] <@[GpW]ShadoW> that brings me respect
[04:58:54] <@CliffyB_Epic> gotta go guys
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Cliffy's (very) cool. He and the other Epic guys are a bit more active in the Unreal community, obviously (Cliff runs a site called "CliffyB's 0wnage", documenting the best usermaps, and various Biz Guys and programemrs wander forums) and stuff.

Mind you, I REALLY hope that there's a new Jazz game coming out. I can imagine a 3D Jazz game using the new-generation Unreal technology... excuse me while I wipe drool off my clothes.

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Mind you, I REALLY hope that there's a new Jazz game coming out. I can imagine a 3D Jazz game using the new-generation Unreal technology... excuse me while I wipe drool off my clothes.
Heheh me too. I also hope that if it comes out on consoles, the PC version comes out at the same time, with added features so we can laugh at the console people. He's a PC icon, darnit!

I also hope that if they do make another game, they leave the character design alone and put in Alex B's music.
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I also hope that if they do make another game, they leave the character design alone and put in Alex B's music.
I think Alex B now works at ION Storm, the company that do Deus Ex.
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DEUS EX 2 ARRIVES SOON. =)))

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The ol' sequel is 5 years old now huh? Wow how times flies!
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It seems interesting that Arjan came and posted a comment, CliffyB appeared on IRC, and Noogy came to the forum and posted. It seems Jazz isn't so forgotten by epic.
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It seems interesting that Arjan came and posted a comment
Where?

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"Will you ever release the Jazz 2 sourcecode?"
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Am I the only one under the impression Cliffy (reasonably) thinks you guys are a pack of ungrateful fools? The way you talk to him, the way you demand things, the way you basically say what he did was **** if you didn't like it, it's is not very smegging nice. No bloody wonder he is placing this new JJ game low on the priority list.

But hey, who am I to tell yuo guys off? It's not like you were actually rude or disrespectful to him. OH wait, you were!
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Shad didn't even reveal the entire log. A bunch of morons were getting into a consoles war fight in the middle of all this plus a coke vs pepsi war and there was a ton of spam and stupid questions. After CliffyB left after not responding I was very angry. He does deserve more respect.
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After I graduate, can I come to Epic and try to become the next Robert Allen?


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Well, one of them. Purple Motion and Alexander Brandon aren't too far from the top of the list either...
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Some kids go nuts around celebritys, and people they admire. I think they really wanted attention... but that wasn't the way to go about it. I mess up in that area too, though.
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A NEW JCS!!!

Seriously! If you remeber my JCS topic then you know why i'd asked them

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Here is a part of the log and chatter filterted most of it out.. have fun reading
Please ShadowGPW don't post things like this one

And that really long post you made
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What are ya talking about kid? this is the log from the event he came.

People requested it so ive posted. ingore if you dont want to see it
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Cool, i never expected him ( the UT cliffy B ownage :P ) to come on our jj2 irc channel
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Please ShadowGPW don't post things like this one

And that really long post you made
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*stabs Cheater* How dare you disdain the appearance and relation of knowledge of the great and mighty CliffyB! A POX UPON THEE! *explodes*
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"I like driving an automatic, because I can do this." *revs engine* "You like driving a manual?" "What did I say?" "Automatic." "I like my... automatic, uh, arm... it changes the shift-gear on my, uh, manual." - 4IF vs Ken

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*hides his 8-ball gun*
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Heh, eightball gun. Wheefun.

Has anyone else noticed that the ASMD Shock Rifle is radically better than the original ASMD?

Then again, I guess that's the point.
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Yeah, the stick of 6 fires ranks right up there with the Holy Hand Grenade.


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*Unreal lingo: Stick of 6 fires= the Nali name for the 8 ball gun. A holy artifact to the Nali. It is like a 6 chambered rocket launcher*
*Monty Python and the Holy Grale lingo: The holy hand grenade... er yeah, it blows stuff up :P*
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What is it with the Nali, they like, worship weapons. First the 8 ball gun in the temple of the Nali water god, and then the flak cannon in the church tower. An interesting behaviour for such a peaceful people.

... Darn it, Unreal is stealing Jazz's spotlight again! AAAAAA! Oh wait, that was my fault :P. Me so sorry! Interesting that a future Jazz game would probably use Unreal's spotlight (the engine).
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Hallelujah-- *boom*
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*stabs Cheater* How dare you disdain the appearance and relation of knowledge of the great and mighty CliffyB! A POX UPON THEE! *explodes*
Ow!
Mighty smighty i am the mighty
*pulls out a holy grenade throws it at 4I Falcon and explodes and kills him*
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Ow!
Mighty smighty i am the mighty
*pulls out a holy grenade throws it at 4I Falcon and explodes and kills him*
1. Killing is bad.
2. Halleluja
3. It's "schmighty".
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1. Killing is bad.
2. Halleluja
3. It's "schmighty".
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I think you've been playing worms armageddon too much
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I could say something really mean and funny now, but nah.

Fun ASCII art you got there.


I CLAIM THIS PAGE IN THE NAME OF CLIFFY!!!!!!!!!!!
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