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The complaining thread!

What the title says! Complain about anything you want here, you can also help with other people's problems!
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This thread has no replies. That gives me no complaints to respond to and no prior example for how to make a complaint. It's making my life difficult by disconnecting this post from other posts. I feel that an appropriate response to my complaint is to make a subsequent post detailing another complaint.
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This thread has no replies. That gives me no complaints to respond to and no prior example for how to make a complaint. It's making my life difficult by disconnecting this post from other posts. I feel that an appropriate response to my complaint is to make a subsequent post detailing another complaint.
Complaining how this thread is nonsense. That's a good start
As for the problem, this is a reply, isn't it?
Okay, about my problem. Every one of my friends seems to laugh at me cuz i told them about this game and this community, and they keep playing shit such as LoL. How can i convince them to play this game so i'm not alone?
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Blackrose is a faggot.
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Blackrose is a faggot.
Explain please. Is Blackrose bothering you or something, if she is, explain why? If there's no explanation, your message wouldn't make any sense. Also, i would ask an admin to delete it the same instant you posted the message
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Explain please. Is Blackrose bothering you or something, if she is, explain why? If there's no explanation, your message wouldn't make any sense. Also, i would ask an admin to delete it the same instant you posted the message
I was on a battle server, one of the Camel servers I believe. I was (as I still am) a newbie and I kept asking the players different questions. He just kept and keeps telling me "No one cares about your crap, Primpy" or "Stop talking shit, Primpy". He just pretends to be "awesome" and treats me like a faggot because he obviously forgot that he was a noob too.
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Explain please. Is Blackrose bothering you or something, if she is, explain why? If there's no explanation, your message wouldn't make any sense. Also, i would ask an admin to delete it the same instant you posted the message
Wait, "Blackrose" is a she? Why do you feel so offended, tho?
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Wait, "Blackrose" is a she? Why do you feel so offended, tho?
There's a player named -t3>BlckRosZ. I'm not sure if you ran into her or someone else, though.
People pretend to be awesome alot, just don't listen to them, they're assholes.
You should ask someone that's willing to help you. As i said before, post problems.Problems can also be questions i guess , If it's jj2 questions, you should visit this thread.
EDIT: Should i rename this thread to the 'psychologist thread'?

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There's a player named -t3>BlckRosZ. I'm not sure if you ran into her or someone else, though.
People pretend to be awesome alot, just don't listen to them, they're assholes.
You should ask someone that's willing to help you. As i said before, post problems.Problems can also be questions i guess , If it's jj2 questions, you should visit the thread below.
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showthread.php?t=11746
Yes, -t3>BlckRosZ is the player I'm talking about. She's a jerk, and I didn't even know she was a girl. ('ackin like a boy)

Nothing to complain right now. I'll think about anything.
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Stop insulting people or I will engage a banhammer on you.
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I'd like to emphasize that, yes. Calling people 'faggot' is not acceptable language here.
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My complaint is for the lack of anti-cheating devices in JJ2. Lots of people say they use cheats in JJ2. Others are crashing servers or abusing servers. Not to mention flamers.

I could just be tired of JJ2 though. There have always been cheaters, and usually I just ignore them. Nowadays I mostly ignore battle/ctf and play tests. It's a huge shift from when I used to love battle/ctf and ignore tests. But at least I am getting better at tests.

Others tell me there are no cheaters in CTF anymore. At least it's reasonable to consider, there's no reason to believe the majority of players are cheating. But to people who say they use cheats, I assume they don't lie when they claim that. Typically non-cheaters refute accusations of cheating, and lying is a form of cheating as well.

There's also an opportunity to look at what makes cheating possible, and what steps can be taken to prevent it. However that's only possible if there are players who care about the game, and I'm not really active on JJ2 anymore outside of tests, watching games/talking and making ++.

Another good complaint is, only one person has beta tested my file Jaz2++.exe. It's called Jaz2++ because it's compatible with plus so far and I took out one z from Jazz to make it look different, and so it's not confused with an official version of Jazz2 or of plus.

Aside from the complaint, the only tactile differences in my mod are the Sound & Music Properties dialog which I tried to streamline visually, and tried to prevent the music volume from being reset randomly. Also the Access Violation popup no longer exists, crashes are handled like a normal program. And, the shortcut icon is recolored.

Into how I made this mod, it's simple. Just open the JJ2 executable file in Visual Studio 2013, and you'll have a lot of options. The only dialog there that is part of the game is Sound & Music properties, and I deleted the rest of the unused dialogs. The reason for deleting code is to speed up performance of the application. For the same reason I also deleted unnecessary icons, such as those that are found in the default Sound & Music Properties dialog.

Ultimately the result of my edits is that my JJ2 program is 1.12 megabytes now. That's not necessarily an improvement or degeneration but my edited program has been working for me since January this year. I'm worried about being in competitive play because it's unfair to use unreleased software against fair players. Is this worthy of ban? Or is ++ worthy of beta test?

Irrespective of the true answers to those questions, I'm disinclined to use JJ2+ without JJ2++ anyway, because it feels like a laggy engine. Unsurprisingly, my Visual Basic teacher did say that applications with less code behind them have less lag. But any perceived difference is essentially intangible. Ultimately the debate for me is: is it allowed to make changes to JJ2, or will I get banned for using hacks.
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Stop insulting people or I will engage a banhammer on you.
I explained why above. If she does insult me, why wouldn't I?
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I'd like to emphasize that, yes. Calling people 'faggot' is not acceptable language here.
Then give me a synonym, because I wouldn't call her like that for no reason.
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My complaint is for the lack of anti-cheating devices in JJ2. Lots of people say they use cheats in JJ2. Others are crashing servers or abusing servers. Not to mention flamers.

I could just be tired of JJ2 though. There have always been cheaters, and usually I just ignore them. Nowadays I mostly ignore battle/ctf and play tests. It's a huge shift from when I used to love battle/ctf and ignore tests. But at least I am getting better at tests.

Others tell me there are no cheaters in CTF anymore. At least it's reasonable to consider, there's no reason to believe the majority of players are cheating. But to people who say they use cheats, I assume they don't lie when they claim that. Typically non-cheaters refute accusations of cheating, and lying is a form of cheating as well.

There's also an opportunity to look at what makes cheating possible, and what steps can be taken to prevent it. However that's only possible if there are players who care about the game, and I'm not really active on JJ2 anymore outside of tests, watching games/talking and making ++.

Another good complaint is, only one person has beta tested my file Jaz2++.exe. It's called Jaz2++ because it's compatible with plus so far and I took out one z from Jazz to make it look different, and so it's not confused with an official version of Jazz2 or of plus.

Aside from the complaint, the only tactile differences in my mod are the Sound & Music Properties dialog which I tried to streamline visually, and tried to prevent the music volume from being reset randomly. Also the Access Violation popup no longer exists, crashes are handled like a normal program. And, the shortcut icon is recolored.

Into how I made this mod, it's simple. Just open the JJ2 executable file in Visual Studio 2013, and you'll have a lot of options. The only dialog there that is part of the game is Sound & Music properties, and I deleted the rest of the unused dialogs. The reason for deleting code is to speed up performance of the application. For the same reason I also deleted unnecessary icons, such as those that are found in the default Sound & Music Properties dialog.

Ultimately the result of my edits is that my JJ2 program is 1.12 megabytes now. That's not necessarily an improvement or degeneration but my edited program has been working for me since January this year. I'm worried about being in competitive play because it's unfair to use unreleased software against fair players. Is this worthy of ban? Or is ++ worthy of beta test?

Irrespective of the true answers to those questions, I'm disinclined to use JJ2+ without JJ2++ anyway, because it feels like a laggy engine. Unsurprisingly, my Visual Basic teacher did say that applications with less code behind them have less lag. But any perceived difference is essentially intangible. Ultimately the debate for me is: is it allowed to make changes to JJ2, or will I get banned for using hacks.
What's the problem with the hackers as long as they don't "fuck up" (excuse the language) your game or the server you're playing on? If they do, simply change the server you're playing on. As long as they use inoffensive hacks such as the frog hack (Which I use too) I see nothing wrong. Anti hackers protection is almost pointless, since there aren't many players.

Reduced the game at 1 MB? What sorcery is this? If you want me to, I can test your program.
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For as far as I know I have no complaints about anything (or anyone) in jj2 at the moment. Fortunately I do have a real-life issue going on right now, and what would be a better idea than to bother all of you with it .

On the 27th of October I handed in an essay for a course called "Cultural Heritage: Monuments II". Rule at 'my' faculty at the university where I study is that the max time a lecturer has for grading papers and exams etc is roughly 13 days. It has been 8 weeks and I still haven't received anything. I'm used to delays, though, and this particular lecturer has a knack for that. No response to emails, and when I met him a week or so ago he said we'd each get an individual reply 'soon'.

I know it's a busy time, and that he also teaches at a different university, but come on. Could he not find the time in 8 weeks to check, grade ánd give us feedback? I spent a lot of time on that essay, I want my grade here and now . I better hope it's an 8 or more, I don't accept anything less.
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Ultimately the result of my edits is that my JJ2 program is 1.12 megabytes now. That's not necessarily an improvement or degeneration but my edited program has been working for me since January this year. I'm worried about being in competitive play because it's unfair to use unreleased software against fair players. Is this worthy of ban? Or is ++ worthy of beta test?

Irrespective of the true answers to those questions, I'm disinclined to use JJ2+ without JJ2++ anyway, because it feels like a laggy engine. Unsurprisingly, my Visual Basic teacher did say that applications with less code behind them have less lag. But any perceived difference is essentially intangible. Ultimately the debate for me is: is it allowed to make changes to JJ2, or will I get banned for using hacks.
I don't think it's worthy of a ban. Remember how Gry has the new version of plus for months now?
It also depends on what's the program's porpuose(or how do you spell it).
What i mean is, if your program does not effect other people's games in some unfair way, it's perfectly fine,right? And by other peoples games, i also meant the test manager scores, too.
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For as far as I know I have no complaints about anything (or anyone) in jj2 at the moment. Fortunately I do have a real-life issue going on right now, and what would be a better idea than to bother all of you with it .

On the 27th of October I handed in an essay for a course called "Cultural Heritage: Monuments II". Rule at 'my' faculty at the university where I study is that the max time a lecturer has for grading papers and exams etc is roughly 13 days. It has been 8 weeks and I still haven't received anything. I'm used to delays, though, and this particular lecturer has a knack for that. No response to emails, and when I met him a week or so ago he said we'd each get an individual reply 'soon'.

I know it's a busy time, and that he also teaches at a different university, but come on. Could he not find the time in 8 weeks to check, grade ánd give us feedback? I spent a lot of time on that essay, I want my grade here and now . I better hope it's an 8 or more, I don't accept anything less.
Well when you meet him next time, remind him how much 8 weeks is (2 months!). And i really hope you get an 8 or more
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I explained why above. If she does insult me, why wouldn't I?
No wonder you are friends with Electron. The lack of manners and the mentality of "eye for an eye" are simply just as strong in you. However, your nature will not become a reason for this site's community of gentlemen to accept behavior of uncultured simpletons. This site has a set or rules; let me link you to them because you must've never read those, as you literally broke all but one. I suppose you're aiming to unlock an achievement of some sort, perhaps one called "Banned from JCF". Let me explain how site rules work. See, we don't care what you do in your backyard, whether you insult the hell out of people, sell drugs, illegal software or pornography. Police would, but we don't, because you're not on the pages of JCF. But when you actually are here, then you are to behave according to our rules, and there is no justification for breaking them. A person insulting you in your backyard or anywhere else does not justify calling them names on this forum. The rules of this forum guarantee that you won't be insulted here, and we have the right to expect that in return you also won't insult anybody on its pages, otherwise you won't be welcome in this part of the community. Similarly, moving a link from a post deleted with a reason "Do not link to this page, it contains links to malware" to your signature instead, does not solve a problem, and whether or not you believe that the program in question is malware and that abandonware is actually morally justifiable, you should obey the judgement of this forum's authorities (unless, according to the rules, they are wrong, in case of which prove them as such).
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I explained why above. If she does insult me, why wouldn't I?
Responding to insults with insults exacerbates the problem. In other words, two wrongs don't make a right.

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Then give me a synonym, because I wouldn't call her like that for no reason.
The point is that meanness is unconstructive, and faggot is a mean word. I think it used to mean a cigarette or a gay person, but the best definition for how I hear this word is a weak/unknown person. Maybe it can also be a synonym for a frog. But making any mean insult doesn't help any party improve themself, so to speak, you can't make someone be nice to you by calling them bad names. Language is just contextual and making any type of insult online is called flaming, usually a bannable offense. Still that doesn't mean you'll live your life being perfectly kind and nice to all... Just that you can exert self-control and self-restraint. If you don't like how she treated you, treating her badly is also not good.

It's just unreasonable to bash all flamers because it perpetuates a culture of indecency.
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Because as a rule, you don't insult people on this forum. It doesn't matter what happened outside the JCF - if you want to talk about someone here, be civil about it.

And homophobic slurs are certainly not okay.
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I don't think it's worthy of a ban. Remember how Gry has the new version of plus for months now?
It also depends on what's the program's porpuose(or how do you spell it).
What i mean is, if your program does not effect other people's games in some unfair way, it's perfectly fine,right? And by other peoples games, i also meant the test manager scores, too.
I don't feel my program is worthy of ban, since it doesn't affect gameplay. The purpose is just to streamline menus, reduce lag and be visually unique. Or, my purpose of making this is to practice code minimalism and see what's possible.

More likely I anticipate ban because, well there's just a culture of indecency. I can't reasonably assess myself to determine how I disrespect others, but I don't know if others feel I disrespect them. And my relationship with the game community has to be mutually beneficial; otherwise it's not worth it for me to be involved where I have nothing to gain, when it's not enjoyable to be in a constant argument, or refuse to play because of cheating. The gracious part of any activity is really just to talk friendly.

Unfriendly talk is a deterrent from continuing the same course of action. I already spent a lot of time with Jazz Jackrabbit and I don't have any more noteworthy goals surrounding JJ2. I can pass a Diamondus level, I learned how to make levels, I've won in Diamondus Warzone, I've played in a team, my team won a tournament in clan ladder. I guess another thing I wanted is to host a dedicated server but that's unfeasible for me now. So what else should I do, I don't enjoy CTF or battle. That's why I feel ban would be appropriate. It's not helpful for me to join a server where I won't play due to cheating.

Primpy, indeed the problem is when cheaters bring their cheating to others, and force others to quit playing a game that would otherwise be fun. It's not nice to use cheats to destroy an arena that could be others' source of entertainment. But you're right that another player has to stop playing due to others' cheating. But you could be misled into thinking "frog hack" is inoffensive. It's still breaking rules of most servers. Anyway just saying, yes it's worth it to distance yourself from unfairness. And no to the beta test offer, I don't want to deal with you personally unless you apologize for what you said about Blackrose. It's important to learn how to treat others nicely, and if you can't be nice then don't be in a counterproductive environment.
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Because as a rule, you don't insult people on this forum. It doesn't matter what happened outside the JCF - if you want to talk about someone here, be civil about it.

And homophobic slurs are certainly not okay.
Fine then, I'll talk more polite. How's being homophobic an insult for the people around anyway? As you may be afraid of seeing spiders, I am afraid of seeing homosexual couples.
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Fine then, I'll talk more polite. How's being homophobic an insult for the people around anyway? As you may be afraid of seeing spiders, I am afraid of seeing homosexual couples.
Spiders don't visit this forum. Homosexual people do. This forum should be a place where everyone's welcome, so broadly insulting groups of people is not acceptable.

If you're "afraid" of homosexual couples, keep it to yourself.

If you (or anyone else) wants to discuss this further feel free to open a separate thread in the Feedback forum. Further off-topic posts here will be removed.
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LOL, are you quite sure homosexual people visit this forum?
And can someone please tell me how can i convince my friends to play jj2? They say that the game is for babies, even though it's not really like that.
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And can someone please tell me how can i convince my friends to play jj2? They say that the game is for babies, even though it's not really like that.
I haven't successfully recruited anyone to play JJ2 in the last year or two, but I can tell you how to perk up interest. Let them see what it looks like, sounds like or feels like. Show a screenshot, video or let them watch you play. That's the easiest way to show what the game's like.

In general, the best way to open up any new hobby to your friend is get them some free time. They can't play if they don't have free time. And helping others find free time is one of the most difficult parts of life. The most common way of getting free time is creating a schedule. A typical work schedule like working 9 am to 5 pm usually leaves someone with free time from 5pm until they go to sleep and when they don't work on weekends. An athletic approach to free time is get rest in the morning and daytime, and go to the park and play basketball in the evening, 4pm to 10pm or just before it gets dark, that way you don't let yourself play for too long and get tired.

Like one day this summer I played basketball for 8 hours in a day. That's not usually a good idea for your body, although it was fun at the time.

An artistic/musical/creative approach to earning free time is, spend as little time on your works as possible. Making a song for me should take on average 30 minutes to an hour. If it takes more time than that, it's just very memorable but can become stressful in the process. The rest of the time not practicing, training, teaching, consuming, reviewing music can be used to just think, think about music, think about not music and let that be a time to regain your focus.

In school one of the main lessons is not to let school take away your freedom. In school you still have complete freedom, or relative to the amount of freedom you have at home, given that the adults' job is to provide a safe organization. That doesn't mean your school wants you to dedicate 100% of your resources to studying the curriculum or to join the football team and play enough to become a professional. Having well-balanced activities in your life is a key component.

A personal example about free time is, if anyone remembers me from older days, after I joined [si] I became very inactive on JJ2 and very active in music. Eventually from freshman year of high school up to mid-way in my sophomore year of college, the balance in my passions turned toward giving little to no time on homework/school and social conversation, with all my energy going to working on music/improving on music and looking for money and financial opportunity. The effects of that are overindulgence into working society and too many interactions with new people. In the more recent years since then, I sought a break from music and turned back to JJ2, dedicating my time to competitive efforts and looking for friendship, trying to have definitive conversations.

Regardless what my point is, if you want to interest your friend in trying something new, you have to give them an opportunity, a time and a place. Most people are willing to try something even if it doesn't seem smart for them at first. But they might not have the resources to make it happen on their own, like my friend who works full-time can't necessarily play JJ2 since JJ2's userbase is most active during local business hours. Or another friend of mine who has an aversion to sidescrolling games, although I don't consider Jazz a traditional sidescroller like Super Mario Brothers (where you can go right but not left). It's not my job to get her over her aversion.

One of my friends who was interested in JJ2 recently took a relatively unique approach to it, he was looking for music samples and I directed him to semi music. The song is called Galactic by Darkhalo. By sampling this song my friend created his own unique version of the music and shared it with the community. That's obviously not the traditional way to play a game, but it's still getting something out of it. And it shows that there are many ways someone can benefit from a game like Jazz.
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I haven't successfully recruited anyone to play JJ2 in the last year or two, but I can tell you how to perk up interest. Let them see what it looks like, sounds like or feels like. Show a screenshot, video or let them watch you play. That's the easiest way to show what the game's like.

In general, the best way to open up any new hobby to your friend is get them some free time. They can't play if they don't have free time. And helping others find free time is one of the most difficult parts of life. The most common way of getting free time is creating a schedule. A typical work schedule like working 9 am to 5 pm usually leaves someone with free time from 5pm until they go to sleep and when they don't work on weekends. An athletic approach to free time is get rest in the morning and daytime, and go to the park and play basketball in the evening, 4pm to 10pm or just before it gets dark, that way you don't let yourself play for too long and get tired.

Like one day this summer I played basketball for 8 hours in a day. That's not usually a good idea for your body, although it was fun at the time.

An artistic/musical/creative approach to earning free time is, spend as little time on your works as possible. Making a song for me should take on average 30 minutes to an hour. If it takes more time than that, it's just very memorable but can become stressful in the process. The rest of the time not practicing, training, teaching, consuming, reviewing music can be used to just think, think about music, think about not music and let that be a time to regain your focus.

In school one of the main lessons is not to let school take away your freedom. In school you still have complete freedom, or relative to the amount of freedom you have at home, given that the adults' job is to provide a safe organization. That doesn't mean your school wants you to dedicate 100% of your resources to studying the curriculum or to join the football team and play enough to become a professional. Having well-balanced activities in your life is a key component.

A personal example about free time is, if anyone remembers me from older days, after I joined [si] I became very inactive on JJ2 and very active in music. Eventually from freshman year of high school up to mid-way in my sophomore year of college, the balance in my passions turned toward giving little to no time on homework/school and social conversation, with all my energy going to working on music/improving on music and looking for money and financial opportunity. The effects of that are overindulgence into working society and too many interactions with new people. In the more recent years since then, I sought a break from music and turned back to JJ2, dedicating my time to competitive efforts and looking for friendship, trying to have definitive conversations.

Regardless what my point is, if you want to interest your friend in trying something new, you have to give them an opportunity, a time and a place. Most people are willing to try something even if it doesn't seem smart for them at first. But they might not have the resources to make it happen on their own, like my friend who works full-time can't necessarily play JJ2 since JJ2's userbase is most active during local business hours. Or another friend of mine who has an aversion to sidescrolling games, although I don't consider Jazz a traditional sidescroller like Super Mario Brothers (where you can go right but not left). It's not my job to get her over her aversion.

One of my friends who was interested in JJ2 recently took a relatively unique approach to it, he was looking for music samples and I directed him to semi music. The song is called Galactic by Darkhalo. By sampling this song my friend created his own unique version of the music and shared it with the community. That's obviously not the traditional way to play a game, but it's still getting something out of it. And it shows that there are many ways someone can benefit from a game like Jazz.
That's alot of words.
Anyway, i took some screenshots of the things i find most cool. I also told them you can make levels for the game, that there are tournaments and such...
But still, they think it's for babies. Also, they have LOTS of free time and they spend it by playing league of legends . They just don't see anything interesting about the game. Even when i introduced them to dust an elysian tail, they find it dumb. And you should see how Dust: An elysian tail looks like, it's awesome!
But i think it's all a matter of taste for games
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That's alot of words.
Yeah, off-topic but I need to stop making horrendously long posts. I'd rather write an essay, article, poem, story or abstract than spam the forum with unreadable walls of text.

The "Jazz Jackrabbit is for babies" argument applies to any game, lol. Or anything. So it shouldn't correspond with an actual opinion on anything xD
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I read this thread and laughed so hard at the posts that I have a stomach ache now.
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I'm glad.
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The "Jazz Jackrabbit is for babies" argument applies to any game, lol.
It applies to games that are cartoony and vibrant.

http://cdn10.mixrmedia.com/wp-upload...4/comic146.png
*Yeah it's pokemon, but it has a reputation for being deemed childish.

The ironic thing is, it's adults that are the most invested in cartoony games, and it's tweens/teens that are mostly interested in the violent/detailed games because they think it makes them look cool or "mature" when it truth, it means nothing at all (infact, quite the opposite when it comes to maturity).

I never went into that phase, as I just wanted to have fun. But then again, I have a soft spot for toons. I don't feel the need for realism when I already have it...in real life.

Cartoons were never specifically made for children. They were meant to be for everyone. But then the wave of political correctness marketed them that way. Sigh.
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Jazz Jackrabbit 2 for babies? I have access to modern, high-quality games like Heroes of Might and Magic V, Might and Magic: Heroes VI, Legendary, Empire Earth III etc, but still I choose to play the 1998 classic Jazz Jackrabbit 2. Why? Because it's fun. Because people make awesome maps, because I can make maps, because there is an active community, which many other games no longer have or never had at all. Yes, it's cartoony, yes, it's simple, but that's part of what makes it still attractive .

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It applies to games that are cartoony and vibrant.

http://cdn10.mixrmedia.com/wp-upload...4/comic146.png
*Yeah it's pokemon, but it has a reputation for being deemed childish.

The ironic thing is, it's adults that are the most invested in cartoony games, and it's tweens/teens that are mostly interested in the violent/detailed games because they think it makes them look cool or "mature" when it truth, it means nothing at all (infact, quite the opposite when it comes to maturity).

I never went into that phase, as I just wanted to have fun. But then again, I have a soft spot for toons. I don't feel the need for realism when I already have it...in real life.

Cartoons were never specifically made for children. They were meant to be for everyone. But then the wave of political correctness marketed them that way. Sigh.
I agree. However there are teens/tweens like me who love retro cartoony games. Realistic shooting games are terribly boring. The only shooter I play is TF2, because it's very cartoony and the voices of the classes are just amusing me. Also, the weapons are not regular serious weps like in CS (I hate CS).
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Jazz Jackrabbit 2 for babies? I have access to modern, high-quality games like Heroes of Might and Magic V, Might and Magic: Heroes VI, Legendary, Empire Earth III etc, but still I choose to play the 1998 classic Jazz Jackrabbit 2. Why? Because it's fun. Because people make awesome maps, because I can make maps, because there is an active community, which many other games no longer have or never had. Yes, it's cartoony, yes, it's simple, but that's part of what makes it still attractive .
You're completely right.
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Not that I dislike a good old guts and glory in gamesm but to me gears of war or call of duty are the kid games. As an adult I appreciate the art and dedication what you find in colorful games.
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However there are teens/tweens like me who love retro cartoony games.
I didn't say there was none of them, however.

You know, you can edit your post. It's to the bottom right, leftmost of your signature.
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Can I complain about closing the FAQ thread? Isn't there a therad just for asking questions from all the JJ2 domains (JJ2, JCF, etc.)? Also, there isn't a thread like "JCF Talk"? I really need a hand with learning levels. It's fun.
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Ok then. Rest in pepperonis, "FAQ" thread
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