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Old November 15th, 2016, 04:08 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Tying forum and site login?

Would be possible to make it so there's single login for all of J2O, both site and forums? As in, unifying user database and login cookies of those two?
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Old November 15th, 2016, 08:32 AM   #2
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Technically yes, but it's probably not going to happen, since there is considerable overlap between the two databases (username-wise) and most of those accounts are inactive, meaning we can't ask the users themselves to indicate which accounts could be merged.
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Old November 17th, 2016, 01:27 AM   #3
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Old November 17th, 2016, 06:12 AM   #4
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most of those accounts are inactive, meaning these users probably don't care which accounts could be merged.
FTFY.

Seriously, if someone haven't visited site in years, they probably don't care what'll happen anyway, all you'd need to do is for "conflicting" accounts that can't be contacted to send them e-mail that basically says "okay, listen. We've tried to contact you whether you want to merge JCF account into J2O account or vice versa, but since we've been unable to do so in a reasonable amount of time, your forum login is now your J2O login".

As for users who don't have either J2O or JCF account, here merge is easier.
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Old November 17th, 2016, 06:22 AM   #5
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But then, if I get banned from the JCF, wouldn't that mean that I'm banned from J2O as well? Y'know, because it's the same account then.

Well I'm sure Stijn could figure it all out, but to me it sounds like too much pain for something that non of us necessarily need.

Also, some users could probably be using diffirent emails now.
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Old November 17th, 2016, 10:26 AM   #6
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I'd rather the wiki (Earlong Royal encyclopedia) be made functional again for already. It's been down for years. Linking users accounts would be too much effort for little reward.
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Old November 17th, 2016, 11:16 AM   #7
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Ah, yeah. The wiki does sound like better effort. I hope enough people would actually bother writing a detailed wiki page, though.
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Old November 17th, 2016, 11:57 AM   #8
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Seriously, if someone haven't visited site in years, they probably don't care what'll happen anyway, all you'd need to do is for "conflicting" accounts that can't be contacted to send them e-mail that basically says "okay, listen. We've tried to contact you whether you want to merge JCF account into J2O account or vice versa, but since we've been unable to do so in a reasonable amount of time, your forum login is now your J2O login".
No, because people's e-mails may be outdated, or they may have private data in their personal messages, and merging would give someone access to the private messages of both accounts, and allow them to edit/delete contributions by both accounts, which is something that really should be avoided.

Sure, you can come up with something to counter that, like deleting PMs for accounts that seem dead, or making their downloads read-only, but is that worth it? People do sometimes come back after years, even if it happens rarely.

There is no easy way out. There are ways out, but at this point it's probably not worth the effort.

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But then, if I get banned from the JCF, wouldn't that mean that I'm banned from J2O as well? Y'know, because it's the same account then.
No, probably JCF access would be another privilege linked to the account which could be toggled separately. Hypothetically.

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I'd rather the wiki (Earlong Royal encyclopedia) be made functional again for already. It's been down for years. Linking users accounts would be too much effort for little reward.
I have a functional copy of the wiki running locally, but the problem is that its code is incompatible with the site as it's currently running. I'd need to spend a week or two either integrating it or porting the rest of the site as well, which might happen, but it's hard to make predictions about when that would be.
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Old November 17th, 2016, 05:25 PM   #9
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Couldn't we just put up wiki on Wikia? I mean, no reason to host it ourselves and worry about all that server nonsense and compatibility more than already, when there are free wiki hosting solutions, such as Wikia.

All that would be needed is to copy articles manually.
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There is a Jazz wikia, but no one uses it. It's also not as professional looking and is missing a lot of historic information.
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Old November 18th, 2016, 02:08 AM   #11
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Old November 18th, 2016, 06:55 AM   #12
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Yeah, I'm not a fan of moving things off-site. If that's the route to go then we might as well host a Mediawiki instance ourselves, though with the work that entails it'd probably still be a better choice to use the updated version of our own homegrown wiki system.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 02:38 PM   #13
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Although, I'd like this for my account. Is there a way to do this, in case some people request it for their profiles?
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Old February 9th, 2017, 04:26 PM   #14
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Nope, sorry.
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