If this isn't going to change soon I have to do some drastic measures, I might even make the fifth level if I have to.

Please give me some updates!

Originally Posted by cooba

So after a year of working on this, you guys managed to create a whopping four levels, and to distort the first and second levels' plot promise?

you make me proud :salute:

Its funny because if I recall correctly IC couldn't even finish a level for their flashback pack and those were apparently going to be nothing more than overblown example levels anyways.

Originally Posted by Sacrush

If this isn't going to change soon I have to do some drastic measures, I might even make the fifth level if I have to.

Please give me some updates!

Don't worry, I'm busy with that level. I knew I should've given an update, but I never really motivated myself enough. Sorry about that...

So at this moment I'm making the fith level, adding something important to the storyline and giving the player a goal.
The level itself already has basic layout and background/foreground which all work without any problem. All I need to do now is to "fill up" layer 4. Due to the size of the map, this might take some time.
I've encountered a problem with the tileset I'm using, and I'll post a thread about it soon.

Most of my winter holiday time will be focussed on this level.

I'm now at one third of the level. Everything is coming along nicely, and the tree problem has been solved too, though the solution itself isn't 100% glitchproof.
I've still got some trouble with the foreground and background layers, but that'll have to wait for now.
Everything is tested and Lori is able to get about too. I'm quite content with the looks. I can upload a few screens, as long as somebody is interested.

Very good to hear, I didn't knew the tree trouble level was for this. Anyway, keep up the good work.

Quite interested with those screens, my good man.

I've uploaded a few images to imageshack. I'll just post the links to the pics so the forum won't get clogged.
If you find any bugs or oddities, tell me so I can fix them (there should be enough if you look at the trees real closely :P)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4570/ss9jg6.png
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3331/ss1ga2.png
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/907/ss2lp8.png
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3134/ss3yc2.png
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/755/ss4wr7.png
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9097/ss5it7.png
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8425/ss6lh9.png
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/283/ss7qm0.png
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/682/ss8uz7.png

Hope the quality was worth the wait...

Hey guys, back from vacation in Mexico!

How's the level following mine going?
I'm more refreshed now after the months, so I'll try to co-operate more rather than argue. And I'll use yellow text like this to cover up things I only want N00b to see. Don't make me break my promise N00b. I'm trying to be nice.

Originally Posted by gerard244390

Hey guys, back from vacation in Mexico!

How's the level following mine going?
I'm more refreshed now after the months, so I'll try to co-operate more rather than argue. And I'll use hidden text like this to cover up things I don't want N00b to see. Don't make me break my promise N00b. I'm trying to be nice.

Originally Posted by cooba

So after a year of working on this, you guys managed to create a whopping four levels, and to distort the first and second levels' plot promise?

you make me proud :salute:

I don't know what's funnier, that this statement is coming from the ex-leader of the most under-delivering level design team ever in JJ2 history, or that this level pack has seen more progress than any LMAT project.

Originally Posted by gerard244390

Don't make me break my promise N00b. I'm trying to be nice.

I... I what? You must forgive me, aside from Shade and Shadow I don't recall extensively arguing with anyone here. A few one-offs here and there, sure, but nothing that should be getting me this specific attention.

Also, whats the point of making hidden text that I can't see if the message is for me? I'm very, very confused.

I like it when your confused. HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Just jokin' with ya buddy, we're in this together after all.

So I can see we aren't getting that far? I'm going back to mexico

Let's see... Xobim's in on it instead of N00b, I still don't have Olsen's level, and it's been a year since this project began? Yikes.

Originally Posted by Xobim

Hope the quality was worth the wait...

"why would I want to play this?" is what I ask myself.

Originally Posted by Odin

I don't know what's funnier, that this statement is coming from the ex-leader of the most under-delivering level design team ever in JJ2 history, or that this level pack has seen more progress than any LMAT project.

I don't know what's funnier, that you've been involved in both and didn't do (-), or that you sound really butthurt for someone who frequently circlejrks at /v/

Well notwithstanding who of you is the greatest comedian shall we stop this and go back on-topic?

Now this is a total mess. Anyway, back on topic, almost done with your level Xobim?

Originally Posted by FireSworD

"why would I want to play this?" is what I ask myself.

You mean the level is dull? I don't know what can actually make it more interesting, when looking at the screens. Sure I can add more green and thingies, but that'll only make the level look very unclear. Give me something more to work with than just one sentence, please! D=

Originally Posted by Sacrush

Now this is a total mess. Anyway, back on topic, almost done with your level Xobim?

Not near completion at all. I had a busy month with school and other things. I told myself each day that I should do something with the level, but I only got a few little things done. The storyline can be passed to the next levelmaker, though. I'm not going to edit it anymore.
Best if we do that? Just to make sure that the project keeps moving?

I think he might mean is to assess the level yourself so instead of "hoping" it was worth the wait, you "know" it was worth the wait.

Originally Posted by Xobim

You mean the level is dull? I don't know what can actually make it more interesting, when looking at the screens. Sure I can add more green and thingies, but that'll only make the level look very unclear. Give me something more to work with than just one sentence, please! D=

"play this" has little to do with "more green." FS is, I'm pretty sure, looking for signs of gameplay, which aside from the crate/seeker puzzle are all-but-absent in your screenshots. Screenshots should generally have at least one of the following: a new tileset, new and inventive eyecandy, or definite signs of gameplay.

By the way Xobim, try your hardest to end the chip catching thing. Maybe orbitz appears, or the chips are burnt? We need to return to level 1 and 2s plot.

Hahaha, "Orbitz"
One might want to refrain from talking about unknown subjects.

I wish I could make one more level

*Sigh* The more I read this, the more I'm glad I decided to continue being independant...

Guys, I think this requires better communication, less impatience, and a "Behind-the-scences plot summery"

Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit

"play this" has little to do with "more green." FS is, I'm pretty sure, looking for signs of gameplay, which aside from the crate/seeker puzzle are all-but-absent in your screenshots. Screenshots should generally have at least one of the following: a new tileset, new and inventive eyecandy, or definite signs of gameplay.

There is no new tileset, nor is there any interesting eyecandy. When it comes to gameplay I'm not entirely sure how I can show that to you, except for uploading it on J2O or mailing the level so you can try it out.

Originally Posted by gerard244390

By the way Xobim, try your hardest to end the chip catching thing. Maybe orbitz appears, or the chips are burnt? We need to return to level 1 and 2s plot.

I already fixed that, and some other loose plot ends. All it needs is a small, yet not too small, cutscene.

Originally Posted by n00b

I think he might mean is to assess the level yourself so instead of "hoping" it was worth the wait, you "know" it was worth the wait.

I don't understand what you're saying. :/

Originally Posted by DoubleGJ

I wish I could make one more level

Why? It is obvious that with these kind of projects, people will alter the storyline. The only way to control that, is by doing what Puffie40 said.
If that's not what you're after, then just tell it...

It's just that I enjoyed contributing to this project a lot and I have some neat ideas that would put a good twist to the storyline even from any point it's left at. Plus, I'd make sure the level is fun like hell.

Actually, I think I'm lost. What's the current order of level authors? What much is done, aside from the 4 first levels I have?

Originally Posted by Xobim All it needs is a small, yet not too small, cutscene.

I can make a cutscene for you if you'd need it. I'm handy with these kinds of things. Tell me what you need.

Sacrush, gimme Olsen's level now or n00b gets it.
I bet your not reading this n00b. If you are, your gonna get it!!!

...oh, I just realized that that random, bright, glaringly-contrasting-with-the-background text is supposed to be hidden. Umm, there are so many more ways to do that that actually work...

Indeed, a lot can be found out about something simply by observing that something.

I did that assuming that he has some form of yellow background. Besides, I don't really care if he reads it, it's one of my bad jokes. It's contrasting with my backgruond as well. (Orange by link)

Originally Posted by DoubleGJ

It's just that I enjoyed contributing to this project a lot and I have some neat ideas that would put a good twist to the storyline even from any point it's left at. Plus, I'd make sure the level is fun like hell.

Actually, I think I'm lost. What's the current order of level authors? What much is done, aside from the 4 first levels I have?

I'll update the list for you. Also, maybe you can make another level, but we have to wait until we know what's going to happen.

Originally Posted by gerard244390

Sacrush, gimme Olsen's level now or n00b gets it.
I bet your not reading this n00b. If you are, your gonna get it!!!

What's your email?

gmilmore@shaw.ca

By the way St. Louis, are you just here to correct us when we do something wrong? I don't see you contributing.

Originally Posted by Sacrush

The Rules:
The creator can choose the person who needs to make the next level, if the creator is unable to choose somebody or can't get anyone who wants, everybody who signed in to create a level can volunteer. Also if you are creating a level it has to fit the storyline. The level needs
to be of decent quality, if it's below quality you have to agree that I or somebody else edit or even disapprove the level. You can always suggest other rules or if you disagree, let me know.

To be completely honest, I have to say Zapper's level wasn't of decent quality. You know... The impossibility thing... And it looks rushed. Very sorry if I'm offending you Zapper, but it's the truth. You need to make it better in my opinion, or I think we should replace it.
Yes, this isn't on-topic with the above posts.

Originally Posted by gerard244390

To be completely honest, I have to say Zapper's level wasn't of decent quality. You know... The impossibility thing... And it looks rushed. Very sorry if I'm offending you Zapper, but it's the truth. You need to make it better in my opinion, or I think we should replace it.
Yes, this isn't on-topic with the above posts.

Originally Posted by gerard244390

By the way St. Louis, are you just here to correct us when we do something wrong? I don't see you contributing.

Originally Posted by gerard244390

gmilmore@shaw.ca

Oops.

Zapper's level does need finetuning, and while we're at it I think we should remove the mass hurt events in Gerard's level (I think it was at the airlock area? Not sure.)

To be completely honest, I think n00b's right. May I edit my level at it's current state so I can make the hurt events in my level respawn more slowly?

Of course you can edit your own level. Also about Zapper's level, I have to agree, if you read this Zapper please respond so we can find a good solution.

Also, Olsen's level isn't totally completed yet so I dunno if Olsen have some time for it?

Edit: Level is sended Gerard123456789.

Also I updated the rules list a bit, not anything spectacular.

Originally Posted by gerard244390

I can make a cutscene for you if you'd need it. I'm handy with these kinds of things. Tell me what you need.

I'll PM you for that. As long as Sacrush agrees, though.

As for my level: I'll try to set as much time aside to work on it this week.