Ravvage of Crysilis

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Joseph’s Jazz 2 Online Music #005: Ravvage of Crysilis
(Pronounced “Ray-vedge”. Don’t ask me. I didn’t invent the English language…I just speak it. XD)

I know, I know. “Oh sweet lord, not another Crysilis arrangement!! We’re all gonna diiiiie, aaaaagh!!” Well…suck it up and have a listen! XD

This is just a little something I threw together within an hour or so because. And I think it shows…but still. I finally uploaded something again.
Anyway, my own work here kind of reminds me of what “Eiffel 65” thing someone else did, but without being intentional. Ya know? It sounds rather close to the original song by Mr. Allen, admittedly. But I like it. Hence I feel confident in uploading it.


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User Reviews (Sort by Helpful Index or Date Posted) Average: 5.6

RecommendedReview by fearofdark

11 Jun 2006, 11:15 (edited 11 Jun 06, 11:16)
Spaz Slackrabbit (185 Points)
Number of reviews with ratings159 Featured reviews4 Average helpfulness64%

Short review:

The song sounded very futuristic. The song would be great for a future or pinball level. I disagree with Danyjel about the size. I think 300KB is rather OK for a music size since some are 1000KB or more. Take my Labrat remix for example, that song is over 700KB and uses 20 channels and didn’t see Danyjel complain about that. This song uses 12 which is about the average for an S3M file. I like the beat samples used which can also be used for other people who want to make future mixes. Some of the samples used is the tune are also quite useful.

I dislike that sampling between patterns 24 to 27. Also, the song can be too repetitive (eg, the repeating notes used mainly in channels 1 to 4 are used to often) but the rest seems to be OK.


Pinball/futuristic style
Reasonable size
Usefull samples
Good Beat

Bad sampling

RANK: 7 Good

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Review by MSB3000

9 Jun 2006, 22:08 (edited 14 Jun 06, 14:04 by Fquist)
Frog (11 Points)
Number of reviews with ratings11 Featured reviews0 Average helpfulness21%

This isn’t as bad as DanYjel said it was, actually :P Kind of disco-ish. A little wierd.

Overall: New and interesting.

[Inappropiate rating (8.2) removal. No sufficient reasoning was given for this rating. – FQuist]

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Review by Ischa

18 Jun 2006, 06:11 (edited 19 Jun 06, 17:23 by Fquist)
Spaz Slackrabbit (108 Points)
Number of reviews with ratings102 Featured reviews2 Average helpfulness31%

Ravvage of Crysilis

This song is clear one about Crysilis. And it is not short: 4:54 minutes.

The doesn’t have the atmosphere from Crystilis. Good music-instruments for a song about Crysilis are: a piano or a harp. This one is more futuristic.

If you want to create a pinball-level, this music is OK, but it is not fit for a level on Crysilis.

Mark: 5,0
Download recommendation: NO!

[Unsupported rating (5.0) removal. Using a mood you don’t appreciate/instruments you do not like is not enough grounds for rating like this. – FQuist]

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Review by Joseph Collins

10 Jun 2006, 00:16 (edited 10 Jun 06, 00:17)
Turtle Goon (88 Points)
Number of reviews with ratings75 Featured reviews3 Average helpfulness62%

“CowBell”? That should totally be my new Jazz Jackrabbit 2 online username! Or maybe not! I dunno.

Anyway… I appreciate your unique insights to my music, DanYjel. Thank you! However, some bits of it confuse me. For example, is 300 Kilobytes really that weighty? I would think 300 Kilobytes would be a pretty nice size for your average Jazz Jackrabbit music, especially if it were to be converted and used in a stage or something. Goodness knows, some of these mammoth-sized files wouldn’t be very conventional to use in Jazz 2 stages. While one or two Megabytes might not seem like much all and all, it does take a lot longer for our Dial-Up friends to download.
Another thing that confuses me is that you mention around 3:38, there’s a “totally different beat”. Well, said beat is actually the exact same beat(and patterns) from around 1:42.5. The most major change-up occurs around 2:59.75 where the bassline changes entirely and part of the main “echoing foreground” disappears, sounding like it does around the beginning of the song. Though after 4:04, it leads into a very long fade-out. Is that what you’re referring to?

80s electronica wasn’t really what I had in mind when I made this music. I was trying to go more for an “electronica/rave” style, honestly. But now that you mention it, there is a bit of the 80s in this piece! Good ear! But what does “getting this from your head” mean? Do you mean it will get stuck in your head? If so, that’s very nice of you to say! Thanks!
Another thing that confuses me is how you seem to say that you like it in one instance, but in another instance, you don’t. If you could be a little more clear in describing what you do and don’t like about this song, that would be very appreciated.

Lastly, I have to ask this. If you don’t like this genre of music — which is roughly the same genre that artists like yourself and Luigi E. excel at — then why did you call it an “awesome tune, really”? And I notice you bring up the compartitively miniscule file size once more in your overall score. As a critic myself, I understand that sometimes, you have to look at something from all sides, but it seems like you let personal tastes get in the way of an otherwise decent review. It’s nice to know the score deserves an 8.0 aside from the fact you seem to have a sincere dislike for electronica and the 80s in general…

Thank you for taking the time to review my piece of music and I hope to hear from you in my next project! And before I forget, I absolutely love your new review format! It’s much more organized than your old system of (+) and (-). Though, I’m gonna miss that system… Oh well. Such is the price of progress, I suppose.


The “Simon Cowell” of Jazz 2 Online‘s Music Scene… Joseph Collins
Doc Lithius” or “LithiuServer” on Jazz 2

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Not recommendedReview by DanYjel

9 Jun 2006, 14:27 (edited 25 Sep 06, 22:49 by Danyjel)
Jazz Jackrabbit (215 Points)
Number of reviews with ratings215 Featured reviews0 Average helpfulness44%

Suppah, new CowBell’s music… I’ve been looking forward for it from yesterday, so thanks a lot, CowBell! You probably read my mind. Well… the tune has almost 300 KB so OMG, isn’t it too much? Find it out!

Song Analysis:
All the sections of the song are from original “Crysilis”, author apparentely didn’t take lot of work with this. But it has nice at-one-note edit, it rocks, I just love it!!!
And then around 3:38, things get totally different beat. Why? I don’t know.
Going back for a moment, the beginning of this song reminds me of some 80s electronic music. Soft beats which kill ears after 20 seconds of listening… Actually, you’ll have problems with getting this from your head.

I’ll not lie, the beat is bad. But it has nice transitions, really. I also like the bass and background, it gives song even better feeling…

Sample Analysis:
The biggest problem of the song. Lead sample sounds like something between string and beat, I don’t really like it.

Final Analysis:
If I will not mention the samples, it’s awesome tune, really, but OMG it has 300 KB and I don’t like the genre, sorry :(

Score: 8.0
“Wrong genre” Points: -4
“300 KB” Points: -2
“Man, 80s are bad!!!” -1
Total Score: 1.0

Hmm… It’s great tune but it’s not my genre so… No.


The “DanYjel” of Jazz 2 Online‘s Music Scene… DanYjel
DanYjel” or “DanYjel” on Jazz 2

I hope this review will be respected and accepted in totally same way as Collin’s one. Thanks a lot.

2Cooba: Why? You agreed with that people can give bad rating just because of wrong genre so what? Why it

was okay yesterday, but it’s a problem today? I am interested, really.

2CowBell: No problem, man! I’m looking forward for your music very much!!!!


Ok, let’s stop kidding, now review with real reasoning. The song itself sounds very… off-key, time by time it’s plain loudness and the sample lead sample really suck (see above). It’s annoying repetitive, the length should be like 3:00 minutes and it could be okay.

Also, nothing new, except for the one tone melody, added.
To be honest, this is the worst tune by you, Collins…

Rating: 4

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