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|22 Dec 2009
|--Pools of Light & Shadow-
|21 Dec 2009
|21 Dec 2009
|--Carrotus (Carrotene Mix)
|16 Dec 2009
|--Silent Valley [StonaRemi
|11 May 2009
some more remixes of mine, including an improved Eu4ria.
Sigh.. dunno how to explain this but let’s start. because i thought it would be epic after you stating it is, in your readme document. but it’s definitly far from ‘epic’. i’ll tell you why.
first of all the sample quality is pretty shite.. it’s good you have a couple of effects and such but using then on different octaves only clutters and wouldn’t make it sound any better. to be honest, even for Mod quality the quality is pretty fucked up. however i can live with that, i am pretty sure no-one bothers listening this way. though it’s not only the quality of sample that bothers me.
for example starting of with your chrysillis remix. it had a lot of potentional at the start except that the echo is way too loud and annoying. but well it DID sound good. then the melody start, quite fast.. nothing wrong. but the second part. row 32 to 64 simply had wrong chords and it was completely out of tonesort and it sounds horrible, really. me starting the think you were kinda tone-deaf making this piece. also when it starts to modulate, once again wrong chords. such a simple mistake screws it up totally. looks kinda rushed and unfinished. then, hoping it wasn’t just a copy and paste of the original crysillis with different samples. there was starting another kind of melody, probably your own. It was OKAY.. but actually not as good as the original one at all. then again horrible chords and some kind of guitar that doesn’t sound like a guitar but a low horrible transposed analog guitar out of 1990. i also noticed you didn’t use any effects.. looking around in the pattern it looked quite simple to place stuff on some certain rows. anyway, the guitar was a horrible distortion that didn’t match with the other channels at all. there wasn’t an epic ending either, well you get the hang of it. it means i kinda fell asleep, no offense. though i am not only going to state bad stuff, i actually did like the whistle/clock samples you used. probably being the only really good samples in this pack.
moving on to Mega Carrotus/carrotene. i liked what you did in the start. but again could have been better with better samples. then you hear some GOOD quality guitar distortion which you probably pasted into your sample map. it strongly reminds me of the scratch (Lark?) used in his christmas-x-core remix. problem is that your music is badly executed.. however i think the IDEA is good. then there were some parts where you had some Lead from a jj3 module called haunted terrero. it’s a good lead sample, but not when the awful guitar sample simply overvolumes that solo, such a shame.. because i quite liked that one. i was also quite sad i couldn’t remember anything of carrotus in it, may be just me.. it’s probably the same melody. but i miss the good dynamic rhytem. the rhytem you used was quite cluttering as some parts were placed row for row. may also be the bad samples which distorted it a bit. thing is, it wasn’t quite bad and such. but my full dissapointed came when it reached the ending. the most horrible mistake you can make is make it out of tone. the tone-sort didn’t match at all with what you used, and don’t call it modulating because it was just poor. overall once again a potentional start, but began to be horrible after a while once again. though this one had a better loop and ending.
moving to ‘silent valley’. to be honest i liked this one the most of all, and then i mean the beginning. it had a dynamic rhytem bass line which i liked a lot. the samples in this track were less painful then in the other tracks, to my feeling. it is a very good motif that keeps coming back. though it became annoying when there wasn’t any variety. thought that this would be it there became a melody which sounded quite.. boring. it kept echoing in my head. making it even worse, the melody was set in some kind of motif aswell.. only modulating up and down in a horrible repetive amount of times. actually everything that got added were some marimba stuff doing the same modulating in some kind of chorus/chord. furthermore i DID like the drum change a lot somewhere in the beginning but that among with the bass line in the beginning is practically the only part. in the ending you began composing out of tone again. same story. you start off well, then screw it up totally. and sometimes a boring ending at same time. anyway this keeps being the best. may be good as background music. but after a while i would turn it off because you easily get annoyed by it.
almost forgot.. i think the tubelectric remix is still the best off all. it got improved since the last time.. but it kinda looks like some sample switches.. still wouldn’t prefer. i am pretty sure tube electric could be remixed a lot better. drum styles with these stuff wouldn’t really match with the music style itself, to be honest. i did like you put that horrible piano riff out which also had an annoying transposing rhytem. it is replaced with some less annoying sample that actually sounds better while being transposed then a piano. but yet, it’s the same melody and rhytem. seems like a rushy improvising.. (riff going up and down). overall not bad.. good construction except the drum change in the beginning which was pure gimmick. what i also DIDN’T like here that i heard crash effects continously. it felt like it was overdone, sorry. yet an good start with a sucking middle/ending. try not to rush your remixes/tunes.
- most of them having good starts also having much potentional.
- good construction at the start (gets fucked up later in the track though)
- 1 honorable good chrysillis sample
- your effort
- quite rushed
- Bad samples
- not that great bridges
- sometimes horrible rhytem riffs, over octaves
- Tonedeaf, out of tonesort, chrysillis could have a better ending, and the tubelectric remix has a quite horrible out of tonesort ending.
-Cluttering music -> being too much useless effects and stuff making it confusing.
What to do:
-if you consider it’s not what you like, just start all over. or just that part.
- Try managing to get better samples
- try to use some effects and more
variety in songs. get more hang of Modplug tracker.
- have some better self-reflection.. like the first point. it isn’t THAT epic.
- try to execute your idea’s better.
- listen well if things don’t get ouf of tonesort.. it’s very important everything fits like a compact puzzle.
anyway these tracks had a lot of potentional in the start. would have been good if it had better samples and no ‘screw up’ parts. keep tracking and you maybe start to understand what i wrote here. think positive :). (yeah i did stole cooba’s text)
Your Friendly Composer Mod artist.
Pools of Light & Shadow:
Nice, good…AND BOOM! On middle, that song is getting some Hard-Rock bad guitar, or something else, what makes this song very bad till the end. This remix is going to be rated 5.7.
Yeah…you beat me. I can’t rate this song low, because I like original version of Tube Electric. Mix is nice, awful, and BOOM again…on the end that song was ruined. Because of good original song, and middle of this mix, rate for this song will be 6.7.
Carrotus (Carrotene Mix):
Good song, good samples, rhytm, too. Rate is 5.7.
Silent Valley (StonaRemix):
Not very expressed what you really want to show us with that song. Rate 6.0.
This pack isn’t that good as I expected when I heard 1st song, but the only one song what makes this pack better is Tubeelectric remix.
EDIT: Ron, I didn’t rate rate this because of Faw’s low rate. He told me on MSN:“Wait, busy, I am reviewing PT32’s song on J2O” I said:“I saw that, I’ll rate that now, and after that we can talk”. We posted it in 17:55 and 17:59, because we talked on MSN about some rushes and something like that. I don’t care on other rates. I am good in composing and he is, too (Faw), so we are sharing our emotions about songs ;).
Good thing I didn’t include the one I REALLY thought was crud!
It are a music pack. A music pack of four random tunes — Stonar, Carrotus Gardens, Tubelectric, Crysilis. These files are of mixed quality, but this does kind of leave me at a loss. I’m…never quite sure how to review packs of things, though… I mean, one really horrid entry could easily destroy the entire overall rating of the pack, or one really superb entry could raise the ranking of the entire pack far beyond where it needs to be! I guess the easiest way to go about this is to review the pack as a whole… So that’s what I’ll do.
Base Score: 5/10
Point Bonuses: +3
[+1] Starts out promising…
[+2] “Pools of Light & Shadow” by itself is worth two points.
Point Deductions: -2
[-1] But quickly leads to disappointment when you realize that two of the songs in his pack bear almost no resemblence to their intended counterparts.
[-1] Tying in with the above deduction, the rest of the songs, while not absolutely horrible, don’t really feel like Jazz Jackrabbit songs anymore.
Final Score: 6/10
Really… It’s a mixed bag. I’ll give my take on each song individually here, then give my overall opinions at the bottom.
I’m not exactly sure I hear Stonar in there, though… Unfortunately for the author, I genuinely cannot hear much of the original song buried within the heavy drums, deep bass, and pan flutes. The only real similarities I hear between the two songs are Stonar’s bit of melody at 1:53 and this song’s similar melody around 0:51. Well…that and the authentic Jazz Jackrabbit samples reused for this tune. As an original song, though… Not too bad.
Carrotus (Carrotene Mix)
Rather than lead up with a cheerful rise as in the original, this song chooses to drone down deep in heavy guitars right from the start. Again, the similarities between this song and the source material, “Carrotus” from Jazz Jackrabbit 2, are far and wide. I’m not entirely sure if this uses any of the original samples. The song also kind of falls into chaos around 1:20, in which the chimes start to overpower the electric guitars, causing a headache-inducing rhythm that’s not real pleasant on the ears. If it wasn’t for that one part between 1:20 and 1:43, I’d say this is a pretty good rock song despite its lack of similarity to Carrotus. This particular tune was also made to be looped, and it does indeed loop flawlessly.
Tubelectric. Again. Has anyone really done anything different with Tubelectric yet? Not even my “Winter Thunderland” remix was all that different if you get right down to it. But I digress.
Loudness. That’s what this particular mix is. Loudness. It uses the original samples in a number of places as well as using a number of heavy drum samples among other things. It’s not as awful as some of the things I’ve heard, but there’s a part around 1:42, and the ending part, that aren’t at all pleasant. Once again, it just ends up being a disorganized mess of loud samples around these areas. The rest of the song? Well, as a change of pace, PT32 actually made the song sound like Tubelectric. A good portion of the song is actually a lot of fun to listen to, as well. It’s not terribly different from what you’d come to expect from Tubelectric, but it has a certain appeal to it.
Pools of Light & Shadow
This. This right here. This wins. If you were going to download this pack for just one song, it would be this one. Pools of Light & Shadow is the author’s best work from this pack without a single doubt. Maybe I’m just a fan of echoing melodies, but I genuinely love this song and what was done with it. It has a beautiful sense of drama and fine arrangement that makes it of the same quality as some professional grade music. This is a true joy to listen to. And just when you’re getting used to the beautiful melodies, at 1:48 comes a huge change! It gives an image of walking through the planet and admiring the crystal caves, then having them collapse right on your head. And yet, all is not lost. 2:19 brings a peaceful, yet forever-changed landscape of a single electric guitar with deep choir in the background, leading to a slow fade-out of the song. And finally, a beautiful reminder of what once was. If the author had submitted this song by itself, I would have absolutely no qualms about giving it the high rating I think it deserves.
The samples are clean, clear, crisp, and don’t fuzz. I’d say about half the samples come from the source material while the other half comes from wherever they came from. For the most part, they’re used well, but as mentioned in the individual song reviews, sometimes they’re just too much for that area of the song. Not much else to say about the samples.
There aren’t enough good things I can say about “Pools of Light & Shadow”. The rest of the songs I can give or take, but Pools of Light & Shadow is the main reason you’re going to want this pack. A suggestion for you, PT32, might be to upload the songs individual for a more balanced review of each, or at the very least, upload Pools of Light & Shadow by itself if you’re aiming for a popular song.
If it wasn’t obvious, I recommend this music pack purely for the beauty that is “Pools of Light & Shadow”. The song title tells you exactly what to expect: light and shadow.
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