I have a few suggestions:

1. Don't make JJ2WC II in Summer ( July/August ). Most ppl are going away on holiday then, and clans won't complete their best warteams. Also then is JDC, and 2 Jazz tournaments in the same time is in my opinin bad idea. Better way is make jj2wc in something around /march/april. JJ2WC is active only at weekend and all people have time then.
2. Make new rules about supervisors. If supervisor will leave the server ( cto, pc crashed or something ), the time have to be stopped, and all players should wait for the supervisor, or some other supervisor before they will start playing. Someone have to count time.
I wrote this, because you left server in last round VS vs GpW, and that made many troubles, because we won it 6-2, but you counted it as 2-2. It shouldn’t happen.
3.Don't delete old news from site. Also the site could be better and more functional (news commentary, more details about matches etc. ).
4. Groups should be drawn. It's more fair.

About lvls.....I think clans should choose for example 6 lvls, and they will create maplist.
The bad thing is that the most lvls aren't symmetric, most clans chose semi as their homemap because blue has big advantage there.

We may even try a new system of scoring, like WC3 clanwars:

2x 1on1
2x 2on2
1x 3on3

Really interesting, but you should find 3 hosts at the same time. If only one man will be the host, clanwar in this system will take hours.....

Originally Posted by Sasik

1. Don't make JJ2WC II in Summer ( July/August ). Most ppl are going away on holiday then, and clans won't complete their best warteams. Also then is JDC, and 2 Jazz tournaments in the same time is in my opinin bad idea. Better way is make jj2wc in something around /march/april. JJ2WC is active only at weekend and all people have time then.

Most of the people have more time in summer. We will see in the close months, though.

Originally Posted by Sasik

2. Make new rules about supervisors. If supervisor will leave the server ( cto, pc crashed or something ), the time have to be stopped, and all players should wait for the supervisor, or some other supervisor before they will start playing. Someone have to count time.
I wrote this, because you left server in last round VS vs GpW, and that made many troubles, because we won it 6-2, but you counted it as 2-2. It shouldn’t happen.

After that match, the host was the only person who counted the time. Again, I'm really sorry about that match, and it really WAS my fault that time.

Originally Posted by Sasik

3.Don't delete old news from site. Also the site could be better and more functional (news commentary, more details about matches etc. ).

Oh well, that's right. Old news won't be removed on the next season.

Originally Posted by Sasik

4. Groups should be drawn. It's more fair.

I think the groups were more or less drawn in this season.

Uhm remmeber me saying, u should choose less popular levels?
Well I should make more clear what I meant by that. There are alot of good levels, that are also played alot. All of the levels in the pool were of high quality, and played alot by us all. But on the end only 3 or 4 were played and 2 were totally forgoten. So by saying I(we) dont want only populair levels, what I meant was, we want levels which r played(cuz most of them r of high quality), but not just 1 or 2. Maybe 5 or 6.... Im sure u wouldnt pick lame levels, but just 2 make sure

I think the whole idea of a 'level list' should be removed. I'd like to play in levels which I actually know...

Okay, so that leaves Diamondus Warzone, Diamondus Warzone and Diamondus Warzone.

That's going to be an interesting tournament. Maybe the fact that you didn't knew the current levels was because of a lack of playing? Or because of a lack of interest in other people's levels?

I'd say you're just a coward if you don't dare to play in very open levels like Marshland, Medieval Skycrapers, etc.

And I feel to agree with Sasik, that at least I wouldn't have so much time at summer, matches should be played at weekends just like in jj2wc 1. It would suck if all jj2-action like JDC, jj2wc, and many many other competitions would be done at the summer, then it would be very boring at the other seasons when there were only like 3 or 4 active players.

If I'm repeating other people btw, it's just because I want to make some opinions clearer.

Uhm well it is true, that this tournament is for people who play the game, and know the new levels as well.
There's tons of levels that werent played but are of the same quality if not better than those played(marsh and JE are a perfect example of that, JE especially seems 2 be made for 3v3/4v4 cw's).
I myself dont like DW that much, but it being a legendary level, which everybody knows I wouldnt mind playing it...

No, let's keep forcing ppl to play various sorts of lvls rather than to let them choose, or only their favourites will be played.

Perhaps we could do a deathmatch 4vs4 - first to score wins. Also a clan JB and assassination. 1vs1s are going to be useless unless there will be many, so I say no duels - that is JDC stuff.

Let's put Assault in it!

I think the whole idea of a 'level list' should be removed. I'd like to play in levels which I actually know...

I agree.

I have a one suggestion:

No more Jazz 'n Spaz Zone (JSZ) in JJ2WC! :l

Uhm to reply to gp's post.
I think that out of all the alternative game modes jb is the most fun to play, especially for the 3v3's(the best jb level i know is sbv2, which is ideal for 3v3's). TD is really awkward, i've played it and I personally didnt like it...
Although I'm not all that against these things, let me just remind you, that always when we play assasination, jb etc. there are problems involved.
If we look at jb, when one team is locked in the other get's pu's and restores health. Sure with an admin that can be limited, but on the end we'd still get a big mess. In this season we played against FoR and TF, both of which are very friendly clans( TF is especially renown for being the friendlies there is) and we had a bit of flaming and tension on both matches. Imagine if something didnt work, or went wrong here, when there's such a big fuss over every flagbug...
I say simple is beautiful, and dont fix what doesnt need fixing.
Those of us who played know what the major issues were... same levels, evolving the scoring system and there also wasnt a strict enough policy about flagbugs...

EDIT: the pure fact that the tournament worked, shows that the organizers knew what they were doing, and that the community has grown, not in number unfortuanetly, and evolved. So GJ organizers and ++us

What's TD?

/me is a newb.

Well, if there has to be some "not so popular"-levels, I would recommend:

-Medieval Skycrapers(yet again)
-Tunnel Torment
-Marshland of Evil(which could have been played at this season as well but none of the clans chose it)
-Jungle's Edge(same thing)
-Just Got Carrot Away(j/k)
-Waterfall Caves
-Divide and Conquer(Some blur's level, which he used for some offic. vs comp.-event)
-This level is untitled(=Evilmike's snow level)
-SPACE ISLAND LEVEL WITH ISLANDS
-African Lowlands(A new level by Snooze, but I'm not 100% sure if it's playable)
-Superconductor CTF(Might be too small, although Semi was played at this season as well, although it's just a little bigger than Super.)
-And if I can get my level finished before jj2wc 2, which is going to be quite large, you can choose that as a level as well.
-Ragnarok's stronghold
-Apocalyptic Afterworld
-Fright Night CTF
-Angelic Warfare

And a ton of other good levels to choose.
There is already 15 choices and I think that at least one of those should be chosen to the next season. And don't count the little joke I added there.
I think bbswing is a little too small for 3vs3.

It might be a little early to think about the levels already but because I was so bored, I decided to make a little list of levels what could be played for example.

And a question: Will [si] play in the next jj2wc?

TD is r team deathmatch...(i made it up btw))

Team deathmatch sounds exactly the same as team battle...

Plz stop using Quake terms like deathmatch, frags, etc. ;P It's not JJ-friendly.

oops, sry mate. I don't know why I used that term
I never even played quake online... ohh well

I've been thinking about it and I think I'll let CC participate next season . After all, we don't have anything against Reptile anymore .

My suggestions:

1. Nimrod should definately be a host again. ++Nimrod

2. More than two rounds, all in a different level (something like 2 levels from each clan and maybe 1 which they both agree with).

3. More freedom of level choices (perhaps let each clan submit 1 or 2 levels they like to the mappool).

4. Although it's hard to see whether it was intentionally or not, a strong policy against people who die at flagbase on purpose, would be nice.

5. Some awards would be nice. Like, for the clan with most scores (doesn't neccesarily have to be the winning clan, you know), for the clan with the shortest matches and for the clan with biggest variety of members used in the wars.

6. Avoid having two seperate groups, but instead one big one in which all clans have to fight eachother. I know it would mean more matches, but that's also a good thing since the tourney will be longer and be more fun, and you'd get a more complete vision of how the clans fare against eachother.

7. More supervisors, preferably taking at least 1 representative fair person from each participating clan ór taking a crew of no-clanners only.

8. Letting the clans, together with Reptile, decide together when they want the match to be held. Would avoid situations like a clan not being able to play with it's full potential because one specific warteam member is at a birthday party or something when the match is held. Or something like, Reptile gives the clans 3 or 4 options to choose from.

9. Do these tournaments more frequently, like once every season. Would be nice to see if certain clans are improving or not.

Can't think of anything more than that, but if something else comes to my mind I'll write it down.

I got two suggestions (as I didnt play in it, i cant really add much more)

The name... "World Championship" makes it sound like its country vs country, England vs Holland etc. But its clearly not, its clan v clan and most clans have clan members from all over the world. So perhaps a name more suitable for the purpose of the tournament?

Be more active, or give other people the ability to run matches. I remember you where busy and didnt turn up to a scheduled match, so Skull and myself got it going, then you came in late and was extremely rude... and tried to force everyone to join your server.. If your going to be the only one with the ability to start matches, make sure your always available for matches, if not, hire some more people capable of starting matches.

thats true, but r3p learned his lesson then. with me and others asking him 2 get an asistant he appointed skull to be co sup, what i think rep should do, is get maybe even up to 4 co supervisors, preferably from diff clans or clanless (although they should be 1st and foremost very active and reliable, whatever the clan...), a great thing would be if those people could also host, so that we have less peep on the server thus achieving lesser lag. One should also be from canada or the states( cough spotty cough). So basicly on the end, it would take less of reps time to arrange stuff, there could even be more matches(if not all matches even) played at once (people wont be able to calculate but will have 2 do their best...).
The rest of the tournament worked rather swell, so thats about all from meh.

Originally Posted by [GpW]Urbs

thats true, but r3p learned his lesson then. with me and others asking him 2 get an asistant he appointed skull to be co sup,

I agree that its good he appointed someone else, but the team really needs someone with different views, not Reptile Number two.

Don't get me wrong, I respect Skull, but hes Reptiles Sidekick, the cup needs more people, with more independent views. A mixture of people in a team could come up with some really good ideas for the cup, and run it well.

Indeed.

well u must also see its reps decision who to pick, now we can only hope he picks people with diff opinions 2. Now I prolly shouldnt say this without spotty knowing, but he'd be a gr8 3rd sup. Then for all i care the 4th can be anyone... But on the end its up to r3p and I hope he'll choose wisely. But lets not give him an "u better get this person to be the co sup or else" attitude.
I'm sure that with our constructive criticism rep will get a l33t team together...

Uhm to touch the subject of various awards for a bit...
JDC has quite a few awards, and all of us like em, bcuz then it isnt only being 1st, but the others get their small prizes 2 (ok we all know they count way less than the victory but still...).
Now these awards should be clan oriented, and not person oriented. The only award where only 1 person would get the award, not the whole clan, would be who gets the most caps, which doesnt mean that person is also the best player...
As for clan awards, well... one can look at score ratios, number of wins, the variety thing that CB mentioned etc. etc.
BTW I like the system of 2 groups that we have now, it functions nicely, and it really feels like WC. Plus jj2wc lasted long enough, so we dont want it to last any longer, which it would, if there was only 1 group...

If you didn't understand yet - there should be one supervisior, one co-sup and many cupadmins.

Actually, there are more cupadmins than you mind. I also asked some known JDC officals but sadly most of them refused.

By the way, if you really want to help, become a cup admin yourself.

@CB: We have no offical hosts since there are no dedicated servers on JJ2.
@Nimrod: What are you talking about? 'different views'?

Originally Posted by Superjazz

Will [si] play in the next jj2wc?

As far as I know we will, but I should get Blur's permission.

Originally posted by CraccoBoyCC
2. More than two rounds, all in a different level (something like 2 levels from each clan and maybe 1 which they both agree with).

3. More freedom of level choices (perhaps let each clan submit 1 or 2 levels they like to the mappool).

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6. Avoid having two seperate groups, but instead one big one in which all clans have to fight eachother. I know it would mean more matches, but that's also a good thing since the tourney will be longer and be more fun, and you'd get a more complete vision of how the clans fare against eachother.

7. More supervisors, preferably taking at least 1 representative fair person from each participating clan ór taking a crew of no-clanners only.

8. Letting the clans, together with Reptile, decide together when they want the match to be held. Would avoid situations like a clan not being able to play with it's full potential because one specific warteam member is at a birthday party or something when the match is held. Or something like, Reptile gives the clans 3 or 4 options to choose from.

I disagree with these points. They will only complicate the whole tournament.
I thought that rules have been decided already. About the maplist I think that people from clans will choose it something like a month before JJ2WC II
And I think that Nimrod still can host the games, as I know nobody forbids him that =P

Also, I am one of the Cup Admins ;P

Originally Posted by Nimrod

The name... "World Championship" makes it sound like its country vs country, England vs Holland etc. But its clearly not, its clan v clan and most clans have clan members from all over the world.

I almost feel like playing in a tournament that's country vs country, but too many complications are bound to arise.

Actually, about that rule of clans choosing the date along with Reptile: didn't we already have that? If you let him know in time last tournament, you could move the date without using the wildcard if the day was inconvenient for your clan.

all the times for our cw's were agreeed upon with our clan, plus we even got some times changed, cuz we didnt have the time. Rep knows that without clans appearing the tournament is meaningless, so he is quite adaptable.

EDIT: gj sasik, u'll be a great supervisor. Uhm i hope you will be the host and supervisor as that makes the game smoother and less lagy. GL!

Originally Posted by BlurredD

I almost feel like playing in a tournament that's country vs country, but too many complications are bound to arise.

1.) There are no enough countries.
2.) It would be quite hard to pick the players for each country.
3.) Timezones..

4) i couldnt play(well unless i convince overlord)

BTW but we could do a america vs europe game ey?
Both sides could get together like 4(1 in reserve) of their best(prequalifiers), and then play 2 rounds in 2 more known levels...
This could even become anual.
Should there be alot of interest, we could make 2 teams, team 1 and 2...
But thats kinda for another topic.

A 6on6 would be more interesting though, assuming lag could be worked around. Or maybe two teams of 4 for each continent.

Hm......Nations Cup in JJ2 should be interesting thing and a lot of fun
I think we can pick national representations from USA, England, Belgium, Holland, Poland, Israel. Maybe also from other countries =P Timezons aren't real problem, at least it will be the same as in JJ2WC.

However, probably nobody will want to organize something like that, because it is more harder to organize than the Clans Tournament =P

how bout we just do EU(including israel and asia etc...) and USA+Canada?
Way easier, plus i can actually play
Although there is always an option to have national teams done, but we all know that the US would totally pwn there. So I vote EU vs US... way easier to do as well, and it could become annual like the game between US and EU golfers...

EU vs. North America could be a big 6on6 JDC event.

ya or that. thats the easiest way...
my vote's on that one

A country vs. country tournament would be very interesting indeed.

Unfortunately, I have never seen a server that could handle a 6vs6 without serious lag. And I'd just love to see the Netherlands and the US solve their luxury problem when they have to select a team of only a few players out of the few dozen they each have.