Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Online

Risp_old · Mar 7, 2006, 03:54 PM

Is it the host or the client's computer which determines if you are hit by a weapon? Because, if it's the client, couldn't the client also cheat by modifying his sprite to be 1x1 pixel, so that he is really hard to hit?

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Birdie · 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Risp_old

Is it the host or the client's computer which determines if you are hit by a weapon? Because, if it's the client, couldn't the client also cheat by modifying his sprite to be 1x1 pixel, so that he is really hard to hit?

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If it is the client that is a real problem also neobeo already claimed the page

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Oh also please keep the import/export test.png as it is so you dont have to go find the file you want to import

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Originally Posted by golden jazz

Look!

Shadow rocks!

When im done with him, i'll start on Inuasha(Spaz)!

If you make inusaha ill kill you :P

Chiyu · Mar 8, 2006, 07:00 AM

This is actually pretty nice, I just wish it would have come 5 years earlier when I still created single player episodes :P.

ThunderPX · Mar 8, 2006, 08:23 AM

IIRC, an online game goes as the host sees it (which is also the cause of the ammo respawn bug, I believe.)

golden jazz · Mar 9, 2006, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdie

If you make inusaha ill kill you :P

Why? He is nice.

i'we arlreddy fund some of the pics for him.

R3ptile · Mar 9, 2006, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by golden jazz

ThunderPX · Mar 9, 2006, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by golden jazz

Why? He is nice.

i'we arlreddy fund some of the pics for him.

That's not Inuyasha...

White Rabbit · Mar 9, 2006, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Risp_old

Is it the host or the client's computer which determines if you are hit by a weapon? Because, if it's the client, couldn't the client also cheat by modifying his sprite to be 1x1 pixel, so that he is really hard to hit?

Modifying your gunspot will modify it for everyone. A client can use it to cheat as easily as the host. Well, less easily since the client can get banned or kicked if he's caught.

Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client.

Grytolle · Mar 9, 2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by White Rabbit

Modifying your gunspot will modify it for everyone. A client can use it to cheat as easily as the host. Well, less easily since the client can get banned or kicked if he's caught.

Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client.

Avoid posting bull(-) in the future, WR.

White Rabbit · Mar 9, 2006, 09:29 AM

It's all true. >O I've seen it with my own 4 2 eyes, and of course Neobeo knows about it as well. But I won't say anything else since you should wait for him to post rather than trust me to interpret what he says ;p You'll see...

golden jazz · Mar 9, 2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderPX

That's not Inuyasha...

Hwo said that was Inuasha?!

It's just a smily.

n00b · Mar 9, 2006, 10:35 AM

Those Big smilies are a waste of post space(and may be 56k unfriendly). Refrain from using in them in the future.

MSB3000 · Mar 9, 2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by golden jazz

Hwo said that was Inuasha?!

It's just a smily.

You know they put viruses on your computer, right?

Odin · Mar 9, 2006, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by golden jazz

Hwo said that was Inuasha?!

It's just a smily.

Enjoy your malware-infested computer at the price of a few annoying animated GIF smilies!

, my (-).

Birdie · Mar 9, 2006, 06:13 PM

i really dislike those large animated smileys

Doubble Dutch · Mar 9, 2006, 08:58 PM

Thats not how you delete malware!

Go get winfixer, that'll sole *all* your problems.

Neobeo · Mar 9, 2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by White Rabbit

It's all true. >O I've seen it with my own 4 2 eyes, and of course Neobeo knows about it as well. But I won't say anything else since you should wait for him to post rather than trust me to interpret what he says ;p You'll see...

Sounds like you were forcing me to support you

. Yes, I have shown my gunspot-altered sprites to a select few. Apparently, all clients are affected, because (I think I mentioned this before) you send a packet saying "I shot this bullet from this spot" rather than "I shot this bullet". It can be easily exploited to give the user a huge advantage. In my experiments, I hid under a platform while shooting above the platform. Anyway, since there exist enough cheat programs already, I figured that gunspot-hacking would cause relatively little damage to the game. For that, I will include the option to change/set hotspot, coldspot and gunspot in my next release.

~~Update~~ Downdate: My new release is taking longer than expected. Unfortunately, I am still unable to do anything with the sound format. I'm thinking of just dumping the sound samples as raw binary (.bin) and see if anyone with more sound experience can help. I'll probably get my new version of JSD up by around Tuesday next week.

Grytolle · Mar 9, 2006, 10:50 PM

"Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client."
This is obviously very untrue though.

Neobeo · Mar 9, 2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grytolle

"Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client."

Whoops. I totally neglected the second half of White Rabbit's message. This I have yet to verify, but I believe that if your sprite is really big and you get hit, you will see yourself getting hurt, but the server (and thereby other clients) will not.

White Rabbit · 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Neobeo

Sounds like you were forcing me to support you

Ok, if I remove the 'You'll see' at the end of that post, does it sound less like you being obliged to post? ;p I didn't mean that..it was more of me asking you to reply to other people's questions since I can't answer them to such a full extent.

(Also, please let this be the last off-topic post here

).

EDIT:

Look where Eva's hotspot is.

CrimiClown · Mar 10, 2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by White Rabbit

Look where Eva's hotspot is.

n00b · Mar 10, 2006, 11:16 AM

Bwahahha, nice

DoubleGJ · Mar 10, 2006, 11:54 AM

Nick's got the spirit! =D

Doubble Dutch · Mar 11, 2006, 02:38 AM

C'mon, we all secretly knew that =D

NeonPSY · Mar 11, 2006, 09:42 AM

This is awesome. You could make your own enemies for your level packs. BTW, Somebody should put a backup Animation file on j2o if someone screws up theirs.

R3ptile · Mar 11, 2006, 10:28 AM

Or you could just back it up yourself..

CrimiClown · Mar 11, 2006, 10:52 AM

Or you could get it off your CD... Unless you're lame and illegally downloaded the game...

n00b · Mar 11, 2006, 11:02 AM

And then you just illegally download the game again.

Obviously we do not need a backup download.

CrimiClown · Mar 11, 2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by n00b

And then you just illegally download the game again.

Obviously we do not need a backup download.

WAREZ ENCOURAGING!

Bad n00b... >O

n00b · 01:13 PM

I'm sorry, I'm not the one who brought up the subject in the first place.
EDIT- editing the Logo sprites are a royal pain, the colors never appear correctly in JJ2.
This is the image imported into JSD
This is what the main menu looks like with new logo
This is what one of the demos looks like with the new logo

Marijn · 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG n00b

I'm sorry, I'm not the one who brought up the subject in the first place.
EDIT- editing the Logo sprites are a royal pain, the colors never appear correctly in JJ2.
This is the image imported into JSD
This is what the main menu looks like with new logo
This is what one of the demos looks like with the new logo

Did you try to replace the character sprites ( and difficult levels sprite )....
Same problem, only bigger.

Are ther any (compresst) .dll of jazz2 ? Or can i hook the jazz2.exe process and use the functions as well ?

n00b · Mar 11, 2006, 06:44 PM

I'll give you one guess on who this is:

Violet CLM · Mar 11, 2006, 07:56 PM

Wait... how do I change the number of frames in an animation?

Radium · Mar 11, 2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG n00b

I'll give you one guess on who this is:
/image/

He needs to be in the running position and only have one frame of animation.

Neobeo · Mar 11, 2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit

Wait... how do I change the number of frames in an animation?

This isn't available yet, unfortunately. But expect this to be a new feature (among many others) in my upcoming release.

Super_Jarno · Mar 12, 2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Neobeo

This isn't available yet, unfortunately. But expect this to be a new feature (among many others) in my upcoming release.

Please say the red words again!

Violet CLM · Mar 12, 2006, 12:20 AM

Which I guess means that you do know how to do it. All right, I can wait on my project a few days.

Pako · 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG n00b

I'll give you one guess on who this is:

AAAHHHHH!!! Is that...? Really...? I hope hes who I think, because if he is, he isn't totally right, just some miscoloring stuff. Oh, and he lacks of a gun.
EDIT= W00t, he's NOT Crash Bandicoot, I mistook him ;P.

n00b · Mar 12, 2006, 04:23 AM

Yeah I thought about that Pako, and decided that he punches out ammo ala Stinkoman (seee the stinkoman game at www.homestarrunner.com)
And those are the best colors I could get using JJ2's pallete.

***Stijn*** · Mar 12, 2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Radium

He needs to be in the running position and only have one frame of animation.

The running animation was actually finished, and online. Electric Ir and maybe ToxicBunny probably still have it.

Chiyu JCF member Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,949 Mar 8, 2006, 07:00 AM #123
This is actually pretty nice, I just wish it would have come 5 years earlier when I still created single player episodes :P. __________________

ThunderPX JCF Member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,350 Mar 8, 2006, 08:23 AM #124
IIRC, an online game goes as the host sees it (which is also the cause of the ammo respawn bug, I believe.)

White Rabbit JCF Member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 4,478 Mar 9, 2006, 09:29 AM #130
It's all true. >O I've seen it with my own 4 2 eyes, and of course Neobeo knows about it as well. But I won't say anything else since you should wait for him to post rather than trust me to interpret what he says ;p You'll see...

n00b JCF Veteran Joined: May 2004 Posts: 5,578 Mar 9, 2006, 10:35 AM #132
Those Big smilies are a waste of post space(and may be 56k unfriendly). Refrain from using in them in the future.

Birdie JCF Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,796 Mar 9, 2006, 06:13 PM #135
i really dislike those large animated smileys __________________

Doubble Dutch JCF Member Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,072 Mar 9, 2006, 08:58 PM #136
Thats not how you delete malware! Go get winfixer, that'll sole all your problems. __________________ nonne amicus certus in re incerta cernitur? /)_/) (^.^) ((")(")

Grytolle JCF Member Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 4,126 Mar 9, 2006, 10:50 PM #138
"Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client." This is obviously very untrue though. __________________ <center></center>

DoubleGJ JCF Member Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,050 Mar 10, 2006, 11:54 AM #143
Nick's got the spirit! =D __________________ "So unless I overwrote my heart with yours, I think not. But I might have." - Violet CLM Two Games Joined releases: Control / Splinter (twin singles) \|\| Ballistic Bunny (EP) \|\| Beyond (maxi-single) \|\| Beyond: Remixed (remix EP) \|\| Inner Monsters OST (mini-album) \|\| Shadows (album)

Doubble Dutch JCF Member Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,072 Mar 11, 2006, 02:38 AM #144
C'mon, we all secretly knew that =D __________________ nonne amicus certus in re incerta cernitur? /)_/) (^.^) ((")(")

NeonPSY JCF Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 51 Mar 11, 2006, 09:42 AM #145
This is awesome. You could make your own enemies for your level packs. BTW, Somebody should put a backup Animation file on j2o if someone screws up theirs.

R3ptile Banned Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,885 Mar 11, 2006, 10:28 AM #146
Or you could just back it up yourself..

CrimiClown JCF Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 4,888 Mar 11, 2006, 10:52 AM #147
Or you could get it off your CD... Unless you're lame and illegally downloaded the game... __________________ buy shoes shoes for sale 50% discount on shoes shoes made in China look like real thing did I mention shoes?

Violet CLM JCF Éminence Grise Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 11,090 Mar 11, 2006, 07:56 PM #153
Wait... how do I change the number of frames in an animation? __________________

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