Hey IceMAN! Let me know when you figure outhow to extract tiles from jj2 tilesets

haha.. Maybe someday Overlord. Starting the day after Project *that* is finished, of course.

Originally Posted by Radium

I'm not sure, but the square in the corner of the tile seems to symbolize two events on the same space.

From what I can make out, the square in the corner means the tile is a background tile (and when there is no other event, it even says "background tile").

Oh, and if it is a hoax, maybe the interest sparked will persuade someone to do it for real.

Originally Posted by Toxic Bunny

Oh, and if it is a hoax, ...

Oh ye of little faith.

Originally Posted by Ice M A N

Oh ye of little faith.

I am currently overly intrigued. I need to go blow something up to go relieve all this tension.

*warez-downloads UT onto his dad's office computer... *

I don't see why everyone has so little faith in Ice M A N, I mean he certainly did some interesting things with jj1 tilesets and all. I'd be very very surprised if this was a hoax.

Originally Posted by Ice M A N

Oh ye of little faith.

I am he of much faith. That was intended for those who are of little faith.

My bad.

Wow that could be a beautiful thing.
This could probably be better than the original JCS even if it offers the same or less flexibility.

Hmm .. However long the wait would be, i still can't open the original jazz, even with the tppatch file. .. do you suppose I did it wrong or is there another way to fix the runtime error?

Try CPUKiller, and slow your PC down to about 200mhz.

Originally Posted by Radium

I'm not sure, but the square in the corner of the tile seems to symbolize two events on the same space.

From what I could make out, the square in the corner means it's a background tile.

Behold the reappearance of a mysteriously disappearing post.

this is just a hoax...this is completely fake.

Remember how Gumi and Cobbi fooled you all with the fake gay-marrige thing? I thought that was real, so I was fooled good.

This seems too good to be true, so I am guessing it is not real.

Originally Posted by defalcon

I can't wait till you're proven wrong. ;P

Oi.

Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit

He can. I have proof. 34 images of proof.

*cough*HOAX*cough*

Originally Posted by Spaztic

If this isn't a hoax, then whee yay.

Yes.

That, and HOO HA.

I missed that whole thing with Gummi and Cobbi, didn't I? *whack whack whack*

Originally Posted by Ice M A N

Oh ye of little faith.

I have no faith in this idea. It is so fake, and since there are only three screenshots of the levels themselves...

I will believe this when I see the program with my own two eyes...and I can bet thirty bucks that will never happen.

Originally Posted by Xion

I have no faith in this idea. It is so fake, and since there are only three screenshots of the levels themselves...

I will believe this when I see the program with my own two eyes...and I can bet thirty bucks that will never happen.

I'd say for you to make sure you have $30 to give away.. but I suppose you could just never download/see it. Also let it be known that, as mentioned, 34 images of extracted JJ1 tilesets were shown to a group of individuals. And.. an (Note: Old) in game screenshot from some time ago:

When it finally is released, please do not make it put your name on all the clouds.

uh.. I guess that was a bad choice of pictures if that was the impression you got. It was just trying to show that changes can already be made ingame.. of course that picture won't have anything to do with anything in the end (green sky? name in clouds? greyscale everything? yeah right.. :P)

Originally Posted by Xion

I have no faith in this idea. It is so fake, and since there are only three screenshots of the levels themselves...

I will believe this when I see the program with my own two eyes...and I can bet thirty bucks that will never happen.

I am tempted to take you up on this one.

Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit

I am tempted to take you up on this one.

I am not tempted. Everything he has seen on those screens, can already be done by the program. We will release it for sure. Finished, or unfinished. We never promised anyone what we would add, or what we wouldn't.

Originally Posted by Ice M A N

OH MY GOD THAT LOOKS SO FAKE.

First of all: Why is the text in the clouds so crisp while everything else on the screen is blurry?

Secondly: Look by the turtle on the tree's arm. The plant is not only in black and white, also a small portion of the turtle's arm is in black and white.

Thirdly: Why does the BG mountain's edges a light green? It's supposed to be in B&W, right?

Fourthly: That entire cloud with the text looks fake. It looks nothing like the other cloud in the picture.

Lastly: You showed us that you can edit the levels in your "editor" but how did you change the TS itself? You never talked about that.

Please, if you're going to try and pass an edited screenshot past me, you are going to have to try a heck of a lot harder to clean up the picture and your paper trail.

Final Verdict: Hoax, Fake, and will soon become an Urban Legend.

First of all: Everything in that screenie has the same ammount of "crisp", as you call it. You're just seeing things that aren't there.

Secondly: That's the plant, not the turtle.

Thirdly: They are not green.

Fourthly: There is no other cloud in the picture. That's the sun, with a part of the turtle's foot.

Lastly: I edited the tileset using PSP7. Ice M A N knows all about the compression.

Final Verdict: You're seeing things that just are not the Or are trying too hard, to make a point. We might release that level ediit sometime soon. But I think you can just as well just believe what we say.

It's not that the rest of the stuff is blurry, just that it uses gradients to make things look smoother.

And I'm taking that bet.

Fools, when making a hoax always use .jpg files to cover your mistakes.

Originally Posted by Newspaz

First of all: Everything in that screenie has the same ammount of "crisp", as you call it. You're just seeing things that aren't there.

Secondly: That's the plant, not the turtle.

Thirdly: They are not green.

Fourthly: There is no other cloud in the picture. That's the sun, with a part of the turtle's foot.

Lastly: I edited the tileset using PSP7. Ice M A N knows all about the compression.

Final Verdict: You're seeing things that just are not the Or are trying too hard, to make a point. We might release that level ediit sometime soon. But I think you can just as well just believe what we say.

1) No, compare Jazz to the cloud I am referring to. Jazz is VERY blurry.
2) That is the turtle.
3) okay I can not argue with that.
4) No, that is a cloud. The other part is too large to be on the turtle.
5) I cannot argue with that too.
6) No, I'm pointing out everything you don't want us to see.

And also, I noticed this: Look at Jazz's left foot. Two points here: WHY IS HIS FOOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TILE? I mean, okay it should be a little in for depth reasons, but THAT FAR? Another thing: He is animated like he's going to fall off, but he is NO WHERE NEAR THE EDGE OF THE TILES!

Final Verdict: I am seeing through the wool they are pulling over my eyes. I can see that this is a hoax even though they deny it over and over and I can bet that this will never come out.

If we released the BLOCKS.000 file which produces that tileset, would you shaddup? (Note that it is not perfect. As it is greyscale, the animations do not work correctly (they are all stationary/static), nor does foreground scenary work(you do go behind it, but you can see the bounding box of the sprites via a dithered pixel effect)

Originally Posted by Xion

1) No, compare Jazz to the cloud I am referring to. Jazz is VERY blurry.
2) That is the turtle.
3) okay I can not argue with that.
4) No, that is a cloud. The other part is too large to be on the turtle.
5) I cannot argue with that too.
6) No, I'm pointing out everything you don't want us to see.

And also, I noticed this: Look at Jazz's left foot. Two points here: WHY IS HIS FOOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TILE? I mean, okay it should be a little in for depth reasons, but THAT FAR? Another thing: He is animated like he's going to fall off, but he is NO WHERE NEAR THE EDGE OF THE TILES!

Final Verdict: I am seeing through the wool they are pulling over my eyes. I can see that this is a hoax even though they deny it over and over and I can bet that this will never come out.

You obviously haven't played Jazz1 too often.

Hmm. My post has magically reappeared. In fact, a whole load of posts have appeared. Hmmm.

So, while I'm reitierating, I may as well say this: Even if this is a hoax, I will personally do it for real. I mean, it must be possible.


Wow, tilesets too?

Of course, all you needed to do was take a screenshot, change the palette and add "ice m a n". Nothing to do with whatever Xion's on about. Maybe he needs to see an optician.

Shh... TB. You've runined it.

j/k (I wonder what Xion's reaction is/was/will be ;p)

Tilesets too? I tell you.. they're one heck of a lot easier :P

Originally Posted by Xion

1) No, compare Jazz to the cloud I am referring to. Jazz is VERY blurry.

No he's not. Those are just gradients.

2) That is the turtle.

That is the plant. Save the picture to disk and zoom in on it a bit.

4) No, that is a cloud. The other part is too large to be on the turtle.

What you're seeing by the turtle, I think, is the sun, and another cloud to the right of it.

And also, I noticed this: Look at Jazz's left foot. Two points here: WHY IS HIS FOOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TILE? I mean, okay it should be a little in for depth reasons, but THAT FAR? Another thing: He is animated like he's going to fall off, but he is NO WHERE NEAR THE EDGE OF THE TILES!

Ok, go complain to Nick and Arjan. It's their fault, after all.

I can bet that this will never come out.

So you're still going with the 30 dollars?

Originally Posted by Xion

OH MY GOD THAT LOOKS SO FAKE.

First of all: Why is the text in the clouds so crisp while everything else on the screen is blurry?

Secondly: Look by the turtle on the tree's arm. The plant is not only in black and white, also a small portion of the turtle's arm is in black and white.

Thirdly: Why does the BG mountain's edges a light green? It's supposed to be in B&W, right?

Fourthly: That entire cloud with the text looks fake. It looks nothing like the other cloud in the picture.

Lastly: You showed us that you can edit the levels in your "editor" but how did you change the TS itself? You never talked about that.

Please, if you're going to try and pass an edited screenshot past me, you are going to have to try a heck of a lot harder to clean up the picture and your paper trail.

Final Verdict: Hoax, Fake, and will soon become an Urban Legend.

I'm really tempted to smack you upside the head and take on that bet too. Try actually PLAYING JJ1 then come back and compare it. ;P

Originally Posted by defalcon

Try actually PLAYING JJ1 then come back and compare it. ;P

But that would prove all his reasons wrong! Then what would he do!?

Could you please hurry a bit ?

I don't get it. I'm either guessing event edits, or JCS v2.0

Xion I have been smacking my head over and over again at your stupid stuff you pointed out, go play JJ1 before you point out the problems. Does Jazz look blurry in that pic? No thats because Jazz1 runs in 320 by 200 thats why everything looks "crisp" as you say. God!

I would stop trying to convince him it's true. If he believes it's real we can't laugh at him when the program is released

I'm just waiting for his reply to my BLOCKS.000 offer.. I mean.. how can he argue with that? (I'm not saying I don't expect him to try though! ;p)

I have played JJ1, and It is very pixelated. Though if you do shrink it down you should get a crisp image. And also:

Jazz's foot does NOT go into the ground like that. I know, I've stood there and it does go in a little, but not *that* far.

Another flaw here is your inability to keep a story straight. First you say that it's the sun and the foot. Then you say it's the sun and another cloud. STICK WITH YOUR STORY OR ADMIT DEFEAT!

This is such a Hoax, yet everybody is so (This part of the message is brought to you by Derby brand Admin Wands. Buy yours today!) that they can't see this is nothing but a prank, hoax, and a joke. I can not believe everybody is falling for it.

AND I CLAIM THIS PAGE FOR MY KEEN SENSE OF LOGIC TO SEE THAT THIS IS A HOAX!