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EDIT: Can those who are experiencing troubles with TNT not destroying destruct scenery share their plus.ini settings for ExtendedTNT and TNTDamage? I don't know if that's related to the problem, but it seems the most sensible place to start looking. EDIT2: We're on Mod DB! Last edited by Violet CLM; Jan 29, 2013 at 06:23 PM. |
Jan 29, 2013, 04:12 PM | |
Oh. That would make sense. I assume it might have never been fixed then and I just coincidentally started using short level names around the time of the last Plus release.
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Jan 29, 2013, 11:19 PM | |
AngelScript really gave a lot of new features. My big big thumbs up and full C for the new JJ2+!
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Jan 30, 2013, 04:59 AM | |
Please remove /bestpony, the last thing JJ2 needs is this crap.
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Jan 30, 2013, 05:04 AM | |
/bestpony The one KEEPING IT!
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Jan 30, 2013, 07:32 AM | |
/bestpony |c|o|o|b|a
Anyway, i got a question about AngelScript: I want to convert an integer to a string, do i need to write my own function for this or is there already a function to do this? I've searched the internet and i did found some functions, but they didn't work so i guess they aren't implanted here.
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Jan 30, 2013, 10:26 AM | |
Right now you have to write your own function, yes. It was mentioned once or twice as an idea but ended up falling through the cracks. Sorry.
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Jan 30, 2013, 10:36 AM | |
I think we could use more of those general-use functions in the API.
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Jan 30, 2013, 03:18 PM | |
A suggestion (that I also made on the server) should be that if a level using angelscript needs multiple music tracks, they all should be downloaded along with the level and j2as.
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Jan 30, 2013, 04:46 PM | |
I found a bug in plusJCSFun: If you die, the timer at the beginning of the level doesn't restart, so it is impossible to progress in the level. I did find a way to get the timer to start again, though: type JJK until you reach the "Continue?" screen, and select "Yes".
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Jan 31, 2013, 01:33 AM | |
That's probably a j2as bug specific for the level. I figure it isn't hard to fix, but the priority is close to 0
About the downloading music stuff, this is a known issue. The same applies to palettes/tilesets (AngelScript allows you to load the palette from a different tileset). This is a rather difficult thing to fix since it's close to impossible to know which files are needed beforehand, but I guess eventually a 'download on demand' feature could solve this. But it's not easy to make such a thing (and we need to make it secure).
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Jan 31, 2013, 02:11 AM | |
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Jan 31, 2013, 03:26 AM | |
Shall AngelScript support custom sounds and sprites in future updates of JJ2+?
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Jan 31, 2013, 03:43 AM | |
We've come up with that idea during development too, but it suffers from the same problem as I explained in the previous post: it's virtually impossible to let clients download such script-dependent files. So it would only work if both the server and all clients already have the respective sounds and sprites in their Jazz folder.
Theoretically, this would be possible in offline games. But it would probably take so much time to get working correctly that we'd rather spend that time on more broadly applicable features. As can be seen in, for example, plusSurvivor, you can use existing sprites and sounds to create new objects in your levels. And as can be seen in plusEnscripted, it's possible to react according to any STATE that an object may be in by writing code for it. This way, it is in fact possible to script your own enemies or other special objects. Hell, if you've got way too much spare time you could even write a complete AI that uses the Jazz/Spaz/Lori sprites and have that running around in the level and shooting at players passing by. It's possible if you're willing to write a seriously huge script for it.
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Jan 31, 2013, 08:33 AM | |
It's not all that hard if you're willing to put a little extra burden on the level designer and have them manually create a jjRequiredFilenames list or something. AS wouldn't need to know whether a given file was music, or sprites, or a palette, or what, just that it was required for the level. The only problem is that we don't have any code to work from for sending variable numbers of files to a client -- right now servers will send at most one .j2l, at most one .j2t, at most one .j2as, and at most one (skippable) music file. Adding a non-constant number of extra files would be a bit trickier, and the thing is, tools to make custom sprites for JJ2 don't even exist right now, so why bother?
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Jan 31, 2013, 11:18 AM | ||
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Jan 31, 2013, 12:04 PM | |
I figure if we truly were to implement this, the easiest solution would be to use some already-existing file format like GIF. Plenty of tools can make those, they are indexed (i.e. use a 256-color palette), they are small, their file format is easy (not to mention there's probably a free library for loading them) and they may include multiple images in one file.
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Jan 31, 2013, 12:05 PM | |
Granted. The thing is, you'd never want to transfer an entire anims.j2a file for an individual level. It's enormous, and 90% of it would be redundant. You'd want smaller custom .j2a files with only the new sprites contained in them.
Partially ninja'd by Jerry... keep in mind that sprites contain more information than the raw frame images. |
Jan 31, 2013, 12:20 PM | |
In that case I figure we could either search or make a simple tool to enter "Comment Extension" blocks into the GIF file. See Chapter 24 on page 17.
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struct CommentExtension{ char extensionIntroducer = 0x21; char commentLabel = 0xFE; char dataSize; char[dataSize] data; char blockTerminator = 0x00; }
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Feb 1, 2013, 07:43 AM | |
Could any of you dev's try to find a way to disable 'double buffering' with DirectDraw for the next Plus release? You know, the Windows 8 issue that's still going on.
While triple buffering can be turned off in JJ2 using the -notriple flag, double buffering appears to be hardcoded.. I hope Microsoft will come up with a DDraw fix someday, but until then, all old DDraw based games have to be played single buffer to prevent severe performance loss!
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Feb 1, 2013, 09:07 AM | |
I approve.
It's cool seeing the continued work and activity. Great work! |
Feb 1, 2013, 02:03 PM | |
Would it be easy to add the capability to set the position of a layer with an auto speed? Right now, to change a layer's auto speed without an abrupt "jump" you have to wait until certain render frames, and the gap between those frames is often several seconds.
That's a real question, not just a feature request, I honestly have no idea how this is handled internally (as you can see in mingfpack19.j2l). Example: I'm remaking the first level of Episodic Ground Force Pack Episode 1, and I want the deadly clouds at the top to slowly move downwards when Sudden Death activates. If I just set the layer's auto Y speed to -1, they will appear to jump across (or off) the level, which is obviously not what I want. I'm aware that this breaks if someone pauses, fortunately you can't do that in multiplayer anymore in the latest Plus...right? Setting a pixel offest for each layer would also work, of course, and a lot more versatile, but it might be too slow to call that every frame? |
Feb 1, 2013, 02:47 PM | |
Awesome! So much stuff to play with..
Works great on Linux too In the JJ2+ readme: jumpSpeed is misspelled.. should be jumpStrength. Some AngelScript questions...
Scripting JJ2 is awesome!
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minmay: Planned, but not yet implemented. We ran into some trouble with layer drawing code and haven't resolved it so far.
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Feb 1, 2013, 11:19 PM | |
Why not support the TSF: LK Avalon release of this patch? Because I wanted him to try the patch, because I have the normal TSF: LK Avalon release was bored. Can we solve the problem in some way?
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Feb 2, 2013, 01:41 AM | |
Can't believe I haven't thought of this before, but something like onFirstTick() would be ideal for this purpose (and other purposes).
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Feb 2, 2013, 04:10 AM | ||
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/starthealth 1 /maxhealth 7, then, for every class, put a warp after start pos, to sucker tube, where you place some +1 carrots. Depends of how much health do you want class to have. |
Feb 2, 2013, 04:20 AM | |
What if there would be carrots in the level? How can you determine how much exactly can a player heal?
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Feb 2, 2013, 05:08 AM | |
Guys, Violet already answered that question and Djazz adjusted his script accordingly.
The only thing that could be improved is changing carrots into some other object temporarily so that they can't be taken when a player is on full health. That is also possible and not too difficult to script afaict.
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Feb 2, 2013, 05:31 AM | |
Question: is it possible to manually bring back/STATE::KILL an object that is STATE::DEACTIVATE?
EDIT: Found a workaround for what I want to do, but the above would still be cool to have somehow.
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Feb 2, 2013, 11:26 AM | ||
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bool isLoaded = false; void onMain(){ if(!isLoaded){ isLoaded = true; //jjChat your commands here } } Code:
void onMain(){ if (jjGameTicks == 0){ //jjChat your commands here } } You can disable Spazz's doublejump with Code:
void onPlayer(){ p.alreadyDoubleJumped = true; }
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Feb 2, 2013, 01:23 PM | |
Amazing update! Great job Violet, Jerry and all the others who contributed to this new version. I am really enjoying the functionality AngelScript adds and looking forward to possibilities that future extensions to the scripting API will bring.
I am aware of this being the first iteration of J2AS, though I do have a few suggestions to make: If players lack the same kind of "STATE" field that objects have, the ability to access player animations could be useful for detecting these states, as a sort of workaround. Also, being able to use the numpad for switching weapons would be very useful, not only for alternate key configurations, but also as a sort of 8-directional input to be used with scripting. Finally, functions to send/receive custom UDP packets from scripts would allow for proper server/client synchronization without having to use hacks such as positions or bullets to encode data to be sent to the server, but I guess this could turn to be somewhat complicated to implement properly. If that is the case, please do not consider this too much of a top priority request and focus on the more important stuff first (mainly bugfixes). Anyway, keep up the great work! |
Feb 3, 2013, 12:40 AM | |
Well, I'd consider the lack of packet functions in AngelScript a major factor. The only reason it's not in there right now is because it's really difficult to pull off. But it must happen someday!
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Feb 3, 2013, 03:00 AM | |
jjGameTicks needs to equal 1, not 0, but otherwise this works perfectly.
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Feb 3, 2013, 03:32 AM | |
Not sure if mentioned already, but i tried Sir elementalers Day/Night script today and i couldn't last in jj2 for longer than 2 minute. fps dropped to 3 at a certain point with shortly an access violation after. Now i wanted to know what was going on, and apparently jj2 eats more and more memory over time. You start of with like 10mb memory usage for jj2. and in less than 2 minute that turns into 600mb and it just keeps raising till it's too much to handle probably. I think this memory usage raising is a major bug and should be fixed as soon as possible. With this script it actually raised around 8mb per second..
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