Hello people,

I'm gonna tell you something I should've told you much earlier , but I couldn't do it...I would ruin other people's reputation...I guess all of you remember the Clanwar between CraccoClan and VerSus in December 2004...VS won the first 3 rounds and then CraccoClan won the last one with 5-0 ,which was kind of weird...I think you guys already know that that's weird , but CraccoClan won on an unfair way....that's what I'm gonna tell you...after that 3rd round Craccoboy asked me if I wanted to play as Vegito because he was afraid that they were going to lose....I know it was wrong , but I accepted...yes , I know , I'm stupid , all flame me , but what happenned , happenned....I'd like to apologize to VS and the jj2 community , I took away a victory which was VS's.....that's so unfair , I felt very sorry afterwards ....
why I tell you this? because I think that the truth is too important to be untold....I don't care about my own reputation , all blame me , I did something wrong , but I'm sorry about it , I can't do anything about it anymore.....I just wanted all of you to know about this....since truth is the most important thing , together with friendship and I hope I won't lose too much friends by telling this....but if I do ...that's destiny.

greetz , yasco

well, I actually thought you did it at your own good. We actually didn't have to ask you.
You wanted to play 2 rounds in semi at the first place, but let me play one as well.
We weren't sure about that. so they let me play one round as well.
Oh, and you wanted to join CÇ anyways back then, so we let you play.

At that moment I did it to help you guys out of trouble , but afterwards I found out I did a bad job...

So you want to give us a bad reputation of something you wanted to do yourself.
well, nice friend are you.

You may be mad on me , but I made a mistake by playing , so it's up to me to tell everyone...

Originally Posted by vegito

So you want to give us a bad reputation of something you wanted to do yourself.
well, nice friend are you.

I don't want to give you a bad reputation , I even want to take any responsibility to myself if you want to....

you offered to play for us, we didnt ask you.
we accepted after a while, since you wanted to join ÇC anyways. but oh, after you left, look at this. you blame us for something you did as well. which you wanted, offered.
you just (-) friends, screw them, while they trusted you. well, NICE, GOOD JOB! be proud on yourself.

Originally Posted by Yasco

I don't want to give you a bad reputation , I even want to take any responsibility to myself if you want to....

Yeah, do that, but then again. it doesnt matter anymore, you ruined something which you wont get too fast. and now I get screwed by VS or something for something I didn't do. WoW! gg

Eh? It's not true that I offered to play , you asked for help and then maybe I "offered" , but it was not my intension to be lame....and I'm not blaming you , I'm blaming myself...

If you can't handle the truth , than it's your problem , but I thought EVERYONE needs the truth ; you blame me for ruining your reputation , but you should have thought about that even before letting me play for you.

Originally Posted by Yasco

I hope I won't lose too much friends by telling this....but if I do ...that's destiny.

The one to worry is Craccoboy, rather.

He wasn't really a good friend anymore , but still , he'll hate me , yes.

-_-…

Well, it’s nice of you, that you admit to what you have done, Yasco. But it won’t change the past ;|

I just feel tricked. Tricked again by CC, and I somehow know, that it is not the last time I’ll feel like this…eh…It looks like I can only imagine what else have you done to win ;| You ruin the fun of playing jj2 -.-… Don't you know the meaning of fairness, CC’ers?...

Actually you got tricked by me , Sasik , blame me plz ....truth can hurt ,but I can live with bad comments...

Originally Posted by Yasco

Actually you got tricked by Craccoboy, Sasik, blame him plz

Seriously, what kind of a leader is he if he lets his own clan cheat like this?

Ah plz , this is not what I want....I wanted to apologize for my own fault , not for someone else's fault....

THATS WHAT I MEAN YASCO >| THEY'LL ONLY BLAME US US US!
WHILE YOU DID IT! WHILE YOU SUPPOSED IT! OMFG AND THEN WE ARE THE GUILTY ONES! (-)?

Originally Posted by Sasik

-_-…

Well, it’s nice of you, that you admit to what you have done, Yasco. But it won’t change the past ;|

I just feel tricked. Tricked again by CC, and I somehow know, that it is not the last time I’ll feel like this…eh…It looks like I can only imagine what else have you done to win ;| You ruin the fun of playing jj2 -.-… Don't you know the meaning of fairness, CC’ers?...

Ohw and btw, haha, like you arent guilty as well.. truth will come s00n

And believe whatever you want to believe. Though you won't, cause you blame us. Like everyone at the moment.
Its no fun that you get blamed for things which happened NOT recently at all.

I know , Veg .Blame me , as you're doing right now. I don't really care anymore ,jj2 is too much about winning lately....

Originally Posted by vegito

WHILE YOU DID IT!

While YOU and YOUR CLANLEADER let him do that.

Originally Posted by Cooba

While YOU and YOUR CLANLEADER let him do that.

after first letting me play another round, and then he still suggested it.
we might have won anyways with me in that round, since semi-red was, and still is my fave.
But ohw well, believe whatever you like.
I'll just defend myself and CC. Ohw, and just a hint..
You shouldn't have done this, GpW and VS.

COOBA! Ask your clanleader about what SYLVER AND NUNEZ DID! with faking..

Veg....listen...I'm not trying to ruin you and C-C's reputation , I am ABSOLUTELY not....it's like you want to say that I want to give YOU the fault , that's definitly not true....I want everyone to see this as my own fault...

but you did know that people would think it was OUR fault.
(how I know that? cause of things GpW said about CÇ)

Originally Posted by vegito

that people would think it was OUR fault.

As if it wasn't.

I'd not mind if you hate me for what I did , but I would mind if you hate me because I told the TRUTH.

I wont hate you, yasco. never will untill you really do something bad to me.
How can I hate you from a jj2 game, and about telling the truth?

@ C00ba, your not listening. And stop posting useless posts. Talk to Sasik instead about Sylver and Nunez ;(


@ Yasco, I just found something about you and SQ as well ;( prepare.

Originally Posted by vegito

Cooba, youre not listening.

I am not listening to your senseless explanations? Whatever you have said makes little to no sense as it still doesn't say WHY did you do that. If you were crystal clean then you wouldn't let Yasco do all this crap, BUT you did.

On a side note, if I ever find the slightest bit of proof that VS did cheat like that, I will leave and you can be 100% sure of that.

leave already, you'd find out soon.

And why we did that? how I am supposed to know, I dont know what excactly happened anymore. HOW COMES 9 MONTHS AGO!
and I didn't LET Yasco do it, he wanted to do it by himself.

Originally Posted by vegito

and I didn't LET Yasco do it, he wanted to do it by himself.

But why did you let him play instead of playing yourself??

I dunno, afraid of losing or something? I wasnt the one who was deciding ;-P

Yasco... You know you wanted to play and that you weren't sorry, please don't claim anything else.

lol you take this game way too seriously, just ban Cracco Clan from jj2wc and give VS the championship title instead

ohh and LB = C-C btw
and vegito WAS saddam after all hehe
i told you but you were all too stupid to believe me

.. have a nice day.

Hey R3p

And...oh well.
Okay Veg, defend yoursefl like a rat.

Originally Posted by Vegito

COOBA! Ask your clanleader about what SYLVER AND NUNEZ DID! with faking.

Fine. I think I know what are you talking about.
Sylver played in YOUR clan war against [si]. Officialy, it was a clan war LR vs Si, but LR team consisted only of CC’ers ( or wait, I think that Yasco & Squirrel also played then ) + Sylver. CraccoBoy did beg Sylver to play in that clan war, because LR/C-C didn’t have better players. He played for fun, because he had nothing better to do. You earlier asked Yum and me to play for you, but we disagreed. Sylver agreed. That’s the truth if you are so interested.
And we have NEVER used a faker in our own clan war ( but I played against many fakers -.- ). Think first, how many times did CC’ers play as fakers in clan wars, and then say something.
Sylver played for you as faker only once, in your clan war. He did it, because you badly asked him. However, it didn’t help you much, but I feel sorry for [si].

And, I don’t know anything about Nunez. I can’t look after all VS members all the time, but if he has done something bad, he’ll be punished for it.

Originally Posted by Vegito

THEY'LL ONLY BLAME US US US!

Take the responsibility.

Originally Posted by Vegito

You shouldn't have done this, GpW and VS.

You look really afraid.

Originally Posted by Sasik

CraccoBoy did beg Sylver to play in that clan war, because LR/C-C didn’t have better players.

CraccoBoy never even knew about Sylver being a faker until Gry told me about it.

Now, seriously, I think that CC, or at least Chiyu, Vegito and the other fakers should lose their championship title and be banned. Why?

- Playing with more than one alias for more than one clan
- Attacking the administration and participants with their fake aliases
- Defending their fake aliases with their real aliases (quite ridiculous, ain't it?)
- Telling people to go against the administration because of "power abusing and lying"

and more reasons such as keep lying after they got caught (Vegito)..

Amazing how Chiyu instead of just explaining whowhatwhereandwhy just stands there and evasively tries to go offtopic.

Originally Posted by Sasik

You look really afraid.

Don't be aflaaaaid www.wingtunes.com
Edit: I feel happy for contributing to this thread.

You shouldn't have done this, GpW and VS.

Uhh, how is GpW related to this? Did they do something for CC' the last times? Eh?

Originally Posted by Chiyu

CraccoBoy never even knew about Sylver being a faker until Gry told me about it.

haha, LIAR. You DID KNOW about that. I think I even have the logs from conversations somewhere at my computer -_-'
It's amazing how easy you forget about some things related to your own clan, Chiyu.

And by the way, Chiyu, I don't think that anybody here cares about faking in old non JJ2WC clanwars.

Ok,Chiyu.So tell me how is it possible that you were allianced with LR,they used CC's players during ClanWar against [si] and you didn't know about it?It's so ridicolous and pathetic that makes me laugh.
I thought that some of you,CCers,are cool guys and will never cheat on someone.Now I see that I was wrong.(If you want,take it as a PA.)
So,going back to main topic, if we are talking about HOW CCers tricked us during ClanWar on December,I will say only :

n/c.

Originally Posted by maverick

Ok,Chiyu.So tell me how is it possible that you were allianced with LR,they used CC's players during ClanWar against [si] and you didn't know about it?It's so ridicolous and pathetic that makes me laugh.
I thought that some of you,CCers,are cool guys and will never cheat on someone.Now I see that I was wrong.(If you want,take it as a PA.)
So,going back to main topic, if we are talking about HOW CCers tricked us during ClanWar on December,I will say only :

n/c.

lets talk about man in motion on jdc 10 a VSer still a VSer that faked like 4 accounts just to get jdc points having aquality of (-)ing 100% well thats what i call faking VS noobs

Faking accounts like Letmebelikeyou jazz2maniac Varmin Hunter23 Maninmotion also known as nunez VS and eminey VS