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JCF reputation feature

I know this is more of a JCF improvement idea, but how about the ability to "like" somebody's reply or thread. Rather than having to say I second that, or I agree with that, why not have a "I second this" button and it'll display who seconds that post or thread?

Sorry for my grammar, btw. I'm tired :P but seriously. I know it sounds very Facebook-ish but I think it would work out quiet nicely.
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Yeah that would be great, in fact I would actually like to "like" your post instead of replying this way.

How about a much needed poke button as well

But yeah a like button would be good.
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I keep suggesting to FQuist that the JCF should have a reputation system enabled but he's like "hmmmm" every time
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yeah, that is good. Add User's posts maybe, too?
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User's Posts you can find by clicking on anyone's name and selecting "Find More Posts by...", unless I'm totally misunderstanding your request. Reputation would be nice except I probably couldn't get millions of retroactive points.
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I keep suggesting to FQuist that the JCF should have a reputation system enabled but he's like "hmmmm" every time
I'm happy he doesn't listen to you, then. You know, everyone pumping his friends' rep and so on. It eventually leads to flamewars that could've easily been prevented. Please don't ruin the most friendly forums I've ever been a member of.

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Add User's posts maybe, too?
And animated GIF avatars with max size of 256x256. Plzplz

Using the member search system, you can find anyone's post count.

Edit: On J2O, on the Add Panel prompt you see after clicking Customize, the description for "Search Jazz 2 Online" reads "Use this panel to search our site. It uses google for it's search."

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I enabled vBulletin's reputation feature. Let's see if it works.
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Thanks Stijn! Might be a good idea to make an announcement out of it.

I also completely forgot how does vBulletin calculate reputation
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I'm not 100% sure either. I think you can give people reputation for a post, and the amount that is added/substracted depends on your post count/reputation/registration date/user rank.
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I'm no admin over here, but I do think an announcement would be good, at least telling people what rep is and what are or are not good reasons to give it to people.
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Yeah, an announcement will be posted once it's properly set up. Still fiddling around a bit with the settings.
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I might add that there shouldn't be much worries about adversive effects of this change. It's a tryout. If it does not improve anything, it would be made to disappear again. It'd probably best though if someone reminded us of that, if it happened.

Edit: by the way. If regular users can't see post counts, I'm fine with enabling them again. We turned them off during the time that people warred about who got the most posts, and to promote quality over quantity. Quality is, of course, still a great goal, but it's not like the quantities are so high nowadays.
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With the button at the lower left bottom of a post you can give a poster reputation for that post. Reputation given can be negative or positive, depending on what you think of the post. The amount added or substracted from the receiving user's reputation count (displayed under their username) depends on the user rank, post count and registration date of the one giving or taking reputation.

The idea is that people with high reputation generally contribute well to the forums, and probably that it therefore encourages people to post better.
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Is it possible to have <0 reputation? If yes, I expect it to happen quite soon in my case.
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I think it is, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
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I'm no admin over here, but I do think an announcement would be good, at least telling people what rep is and what are or are not good reasons to give it to people.
I was all for turning it on quietly and seeing if anyone noticed...
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Reputation idea: How about we change the thing from a little green block to something more... Jazzy? Also, I hope this doesn't scare people from posting anything in fear that it will give them negative reputation, I never really thought about that. But I'll break the ice and make the first suggestion. Also, a name system would be cool, though I like the idea of giving yourself your own custom title at the same time, so I'm not sure, that'd be something to take a popular vote on.

But maybe, instead of a green block, make it a carrot... The carrot looks more rotten as your reputation goes down and turns brighter orange as your reputation goes up? Or maybe you start as a seed? I'm not sure, that's something somebody more creative than me would have to come up with, but I'm all for changing the green block to something related. Come on guys, lets Jazz this up! (bad pun, sorry)
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Reputation idea: How about we change the thing from a little green block to something more... Jazzy? Also, I hope this doesn't scare people from posting anything in fear that it will give them negative reputation, I never really thought about that.
The idea is that people won't post useless stuff since that'd get them negative reputation. So overall the post quality should increase. Whether or not this works remains to be seen of course.

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But I'll break the ice and make the first suggestion. Also, a name system would be cool, though I like the idea of giving yourself your own custom title at the same time, so I'm not sure, that'd be something to take a popular vote on.
Do you mean a custom title based on your reputation?

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But maybe, instead of a green block, make it a carrot... The carrot looks more rotten as your reputation goes down and turns brighter orange as your reputation goes up? Or maybe you start as a seed? I'm not sure, that's something somebody more creative than me would have to come up with, but I'm all for changing the green block to something related. Come on guys, lets Jazz this up! (bad pun, sorry)
That's a good idea, I'll look into whether it's possible to change the icon (it's handled by the forum software, and I don't know how easy or difficult it is to change it).
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Do you mean a custom title based on your reputation?
Precisely. Maybe you start out at the title "newbie" and work your way either up, or down, getting new titles as your reputation goes up or down? I'm not sure if something like that would be possible, but I also like being able to give yourself a custom title so I'm not sure, that all depends on what the members have in mind. Either way, I like this reputation system so far.
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Maybe you start out at the title "newbie" and work your way either up, or down, getting new titles as your reputation goes up or down?
"Newbie" sounds like a rather bad idea, as it doesn't really say anything about the reputation, rather the post count. If someone starts with reputation 10, then he posts very well to like 100 and later he does some drunk posting back to 10, title "newbie" doesn't really fit well.

But overally, I like both the carrot and the title idea, as long as they'd not take too much space.
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Precisely. Maybe you start out at the title "newbie" and work your way either up, or down, getting new titles as your reputation goes up or down? I'm not sure if something like that would be possible, but I also like being able to give yourself a custom title so I'm not sure, that all depends on what the members have in mind. Either way, I like this reputation system so far.
At the moment the current title is visible by hovering over the green block (for example, your one currently says "Dermo is notorious for his worthless posts").

How about changing the template to include the text next to the green block, instead of as a custom title. Something like:


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I never would have noticed if you hadn't told me that. That layout definitely looks better, at least to me anyways.
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Hmm, I thought it always says "x is doing well so far".
Dermo is notorious! Wait, we didn't need the rep system to know that.
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I know from other vBulletin forums that reputation can go below zero.

I remember a page somewhere in the UserCP that shows the last X people giving you reputation, along with the post for which you got the reputation and the user's comment. I can't find this page on the JCF, though I'd bet we have that too. Anyone found it?
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Right here.
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Hmm, for me the UserCP only lists subscribed threads with new replies. Maybe it's simply not there because I haven't got any reputation yet.

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So when I was looking to see what reputation was given to me, I noticed this:



I'm assuming red means negative, green means positive, what does white mean? Does that mean it didn't change at all?
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Not Zero, it was on the page where I was looking to see what kind of reputation I was being given. And one was white. Does that mean nothing was given, nor taken? Why not?
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Its name is reputation_balance.gif (the others are _neg.gif and _pos.gif) so I'm guessing it's like "nothing was given, nor taken" indeed. If I'd know how is reputation system configured, I could easily say what exactly happened. The most probably someone with low reputation, post count and time spent on JCF tried to rate your post and the calculated score was 0 or so.
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I'd really be interested to know who actually has downvoted my posts...
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http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/usercp.php

It should show up here.
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No, it shouldn't and fortunately doesn't. The things showed are: if received reputation is positive or negative (or in Dermo's case "balanced"), which post was rated, date and the reason of rating. I can easily imagine what would be the effect if people could check who's giving them negative rep.
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Oh, okay. That's probably a board setting then. I know vBulletin is capable of listing the names there too from other boards.
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I've split this from the Future J2O thread.

Dermo: the grey dot means that 0 reputation was given.

The amount of reputation power you have depends on how long you've been a member, how many posts you've made, and how much reputation you have. There's also limits on how much reputation you can give per day and how often you can hit the same user (unless you're an admin... ).

Oh, and those who are notorious for their worthless posts cannot give out reputation
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Hey, thank you anonymous guy who thought I contributed positively with my suggestions! I was thinking you found those worthless as I don't usually get much replies.

I'd be happy if I could see more than just the two most recent comments though. (Edit: or are those the only ones I've got? Does it mean I've received positive reputation from an oldbie/admin? Edit 2: thanks Torkell)
I find it a good idea to hide voter names. That way no-one's going to receive angry (thankful) PM's/reputation in return.

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I'd be happy if I could see more than just the two most recent comments though. (Edit: or are those the only ones I've got? Does it mean I've received positive reputation from an oldbie/admin?)
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Perhaps you should make reasoning mandatory. Right now, it is possible to see things as weird as that.

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