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EvilMike · Jul 29, 2001, 11:52 AM

I have noticed a recent outbreak of people taking advantage of a particularly annoying bug in CTF games. I am not going to say how to do this, because I am afraid it will lead to more exploitation of this bug. I will describe what it does though.

When using this method of cheating, the cheater will keep the flag when he or she dies. This will allow them to enter their base with the enimy flag and score a quick and easy point. Some people think that it is caused by lag, but it is not.

The reason I am posting this topic is because I have had enough, and that I need to inform everyone that it IS NOT lag that causes people to keep the flag when they die.

Derby · Jul 29, 2001, 12:02 PM

Actually, what you're talking about happens to be a rule of CTF and not a bug. =\

People do happen to use that rule to their advantage sometimes, though...

$tilettø · Jul 29, 2001, 12:06 PM

ah that happend once in you`r server.

Violet CLM · Jul 29, 2001, 01:55 PM

Never done it, have no idea how to do it. Don't worry about me.

MaGoo · Jul 30, 2001, 03:56 AM

I am going to experiment with that... But not take it too far.

UrbanMenace · Jul 30, 2001, 08:18 AM

That always happens in offline games, kind of seems pointless to give the option really...

roseta · Jul 30, 2001, 03:30 PM

Dnno

Cesar · Jul 30, 2001, 11:26 PM

What's most annoying is that people don't mask the whole level (Shareware players are out of luck) to prevent such bug; but I'm not sure about this bug.

Most likely, I think it's a missed data that can affect other players. Noone can't prevent missed data because Jazz2.exe supports lag-tolerance and it's not optional to turn it off.

Cpp · Jul 30, 2001, 11:58 PM

I 've never seen anyone do that but I think I know how they do it.

Violet CLM · Jul 31, 2001, 02:54 PM

Quote:

On a date that would forever be known in infamy, Cesar wrote:

What's most annoying is that people don't mask the whole level (Shareware players are out of luck) to prevent such bug; but I'm not sure about this bug.

I presune you mean the whole edge, not the whole level?

Derby · Jul 31, 2001, 05:34 PM

On another note, wrong bug. ;-P

Cesar · Aug 1, 2001, 02:40 AM

Quote:

On a date that would forever be known in infamy, Unknown Rabbit wrote:

I presune you mean the whole edge, not the whole level?

Exactly... the "whole-edge" of the level

MattW · Aug 16, 2001, 09:48 AM

I think the bug's caused by staying at the enemy base when you get roasted...

(The Keeping-the-flag one...)

EvilMike · Aug 16, 2001, 10:02 AM

I know that. Don't tell other people how to do it.

Hareoic · Aug 16, 2001, 10:59 AM

I already knew about that one.

Kaz · Aug 16, 2001, 05:43 PM

Hmm, actually, it's caused by jj2's method of predicting... when you die your character is "warped" yet not in a virtual subspace, he's still in the real world, and so he captures the flag again.

Or it could just be the dead body (it takes like 3 seconds for spaz to die?), catching the flag and then you warping becuase you died.

SteelTalon · Aug 16, 2001, 08:49 PM

Either way it's a perfectly legal way to play CTF unless the level has starts right next to the base. =P

$tilettø · Aug 16, 2001, 11:31 PM

Yes But Sometime`s it Doesnt work

***Stijn*** · Aug 17, 2001, 05:05 AM

I did that sometimes. It was annyoning, I didn't want to. I also don't know how to.

KILLERRABBIT(ICED KILLER) · Aug 17, 2001, 06:25 AM

yes but...how does it work i really wanna know

KRSplat · Aug 18, 2001, 04:13 AM

Well... um.. that's not fun

KILLERRABBIT(ICED KILLER) · Aug 18, 2001, 04:49 AM

?????how is it not fun?????

KILLERRABBIT(ICED KILLER) · Aug 18, 2001, 04:49 AM

?????how is it not fun?????

Fquist_old · Aug 18, 2001, 05:04 AM

It may be legal, but it is also unfair.

Lamer · Aug 25, 2001, 08:36 AM

Should it be banned then?

Yanagi VelKasha · Aug 25, 2001, 10:40 AM

It's happened to me before, but I wasn't trying to cheat.

Alberto · Aug 25, 2001, 11:43 AM

Well, I have to recognize that I do that trick, of course I'm not telling how, but I think it's not a cheat, everyone can do it, but if someone duels me or something I'll ask if I'm allowed to do that trick or not.

In any case Mike.

U can avoid it too, of course I'm not telling how either

Alberto · Aug 25, 2001, 11:43 AM

Well, I have to recognize that I do that trick, of course I'm not telling how, but I think it's not a cheat, everyone can do it, but if someone duels me or something I'll ask if I'm allowed to do that trick or not.

In any case Mike.

U can avoid it too, of course I'm not telling how either.

$tilettø · Aug 25, 2001, 11:59 AM

its handy only than they say LOSER!!

if you use that trick hehe Yes i know how to do it

TrilogyDW · Aug 26, 2001, 04:30 PM

Well, i never used it till up to last month. Hahhah, i was playing for 3 years and I know about it now.

Anyways, if it is legal... then the rule of thumb is, if its in the heat of battle, then why not take advantage. NO camping tho, thats just wrong. Cuz i'll just spaz kick u, and score a point

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Tubz · Aug 26, 2001, 04:45 PM

This bug happens to me sometimes. But I just don't know on how it is caused.

$tilettø · Aug 27, 2001, 03:55 AM

if i have 1 heart im using that trick then

$tilettø · Aug 27, 2001, 03:55 AM

if i have 1 heart im using that trick then

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Derby JCF Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,006 Jul 29, 2001, 12:02 PM #2
Actually, what you're talking about happens to be a rule of CTF and not a bug. =\ People do happen to use that rule to their advantage sometimes, though...

$tilettø JCF member Joined: May 2001 Posts: 3,221 Jul 29, 2001, 12:06 PM #3
ah that happend once in you`r server.

Violet CLM JCF Éminence Grise Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 11,090 Jul 29, 2001, 01:55 PM #4
Never done it, have no idea how to do it. Don't worry about me.

MaGoo JCF Member Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,059 Jul 30, 2001, 03:56 AM #5
I am going to experiment with that... But not take it too far. __________________ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

UrbanMenace JCF Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 495 Jul 30, 2001, 08:18 AM #6
That always happens in offline games, kind of seems pointless to give the option really... __________________ -TwisteðMetal Ø Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any offensive views, stupid mistakes etc. contained in the above message. OK, maybe I am. Don't confuse me.

roseta JCF Member Joined: May 2001 Posts: 111 Jul 30, 2001, 03:30 PM #7
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Cesar JCF Member Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 508 Jul 30, 2001, 11:26 PM #8
What's most annoying is that people don't mask the whole level (Shareware players are out of luck) to prevent such bug; but I'm not sure about this bug. Most likely, I think it's a missed data that can affect other players. Noone can't prevent missed data because Jazz2.exe supports lag-tolerance and it's not optional to turn it off.

Cpp JCF Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,557 Jul 30, 2001, 11:58 PM #9
I 've never seen anyone do that but I think I know how they do it. __________________ <a href="http://nmap.org/"><img border="0" alt="Nmap Security Scanner" src="http://images.insecure.org/nmap/images/prop/nmap_bnr_matrix_pfos.gif"/></a>

MattW JCF Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 78 Aug 16, 2001, 09:48 AM #13
I think the bug's caused by staying at the enemy base when you get roasted... (The Keeping-the-flag one...) __________________ ¶···MattW/CSTRFAN

EvilMike JCF Member Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,478 Aug 16, 2001, 10:02 AM #14
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Hareoic JCF Member Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,578 Aug 16, 2001, 10:59 AM #15
I already knew about that one. __________________ But perhaps the most likely reason of all, was that his bombs were simply two sizes too small

SteelTalon JCF Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 661 Aug 16, 2001, 08:49 PM #17
Either way it's a perfectly legal way to play CTF unless the level has starts right next to the base. =P __________________ -SteelTalon, Black Wolf <font size="-2"> the ELM tree PreSenT PaST </font>

*Stijn* Ａｄｍｉｎｉｓｔｒａｔｏｒ Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 6,968 Aug 17, 2001, 05:05 AM #19
I did that sometimes. It was annyoning, I didn't want to. I also don't know how to.

KILLERRABBIT(ICED KILLER) JCF Member Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 156 Aug 17, 2001, 06:25 AM #20
yes but...how does it work i really wanna know __________________ me...Iced Killer (which is also known as \|\|KILLERRABBIT\|\|)I am a girl not a boy...and never will be a boy!sorry i copied your signature Jelze on JJ2 my name is Iced Killer

KRSplat JCF Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,942 Aug 18, 2001, 04:13 AM #21
Well... um.. that's not fun

KILLERRABBIT(ICED KILLER) JCF Member Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 156 Aug 18, 2001, 04:49 AM #23
?????how is it not fun????? __________________ me...Iced Killer (which is also known as \|\|KILLERRABBIT\|\|)I am a girl not a boy...and never will be a boy!sorry i copied your signature Jelze on JJ2 my name is Iced Killer

Fquist_old JCF Member Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 863 Aug 18, 2001, 05:04 AM #24
It may be legal, but it is also unfair.

Lamer JCF Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 537 Aug 25, 2001, 08:36 AM #25
Should it be banned then? __________________ <a href="http://www.spiffyjuice.com/">SpiffyJuice</a> - better than alcohol. Thanks to Fquist, iCeD, Bobby, Derby and the others for the JCF. -Lamer

Yanagi VelKasha JCF Member Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 207 Aug 25, 2001, 10:40 AM #26
It's happened to me before, but I wasn't trying to cheat.

Alberto JCF Member Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 459 Aug 25, 2001, 11:43 AM #27
Well, I have to recognize that I do that trick, of course I'm not telling how, but I think it's not a cheat, everyone can do it, but if someone duels me or something I'll ask if I'm allowed to do that trick or not. In any case Mike. U can avoid it too, of course I'm not telling how either

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