(If we ever manage to start the 1.25 project..) What are some fixes that should be worked on? I'm only asking for reasonable fixes. We're not going to add new characters or weapons or anything like that.

1) Flag bug fix without having to mask

2)Preventing getting stuck on point corners

3)Making team chat work properly

4)Possibly somehow making private chat



And others...

5)Add CO-Operative Mode to MultiplayerJJ2

6)Add Team Battle Mode to MultiplayerJJ2, and remove the flag sign

7)Make the Rocket Turtle Event, work like the other Bosses

8)Fix Bolly Boss Event

9)Fix TNT Powerup Event

10)Make the Auto Fire Event be more useful

11)Make the Witch Event much more easier to kill, make it like all the other Baddies

12)Fix the Bees Event

13)Fix the Addon DOG Event

14)Put the Rocket Turtle Event in the Bosses section

15)Include the latest version of JCS.ini with the patch

16)Make Events capable in more layers

17)Fix the Addon Spark Event

18)Make more X-mas Events

19)Remove the Battle, Treasure or CTF Multiplayer Level option in the Layer Properties

20)Fix the Test 1-6 Events

21)Fix Tube Turtle Event

22)Fix Butterfly Event

23)Fix the "Ammensia Error, too many bosses in the level"

24)Include Overlord's Anti-Access-Violation Patch, with this 1.25 Patch

25)Make Acc Belt L Event have a different purpose

26)Make Acc Belt R Event have a different purpose

27)Fix the Bonus Level Signpost Event

28)Fix the End of Level Signpost Event

29)Make the Event # appear without having to select, Create a Generator for this event

30)Make the Event # Unchangable

31)Fix the Carrot Crate Event

32)Fix the Gun Crate Event

33)Make a TNT Ammo+15 Event

34)Make a Gun8 Ammo+15 Event

35)Make a Gun9 Ammo+15 Event

36)Rename the "Thing" Food Event to Coconut

37)Delete the RectGem Blue Event

38)Delete the RectGem Green Event

39)Delete the RectGem Red Event

40)Make the Purple Gem +1 Event be more useful

41)Make the Fast Feet Event be more useful

42)UNDECIDED: Delete the Freeze Enemies Event. DECIDED: Rename Freeze Enemies to Freeze Rabbits, and make it so you can't get affected by the event.

43)Make the Invincibility Event be more useful

44)Make the Max Weapon Event be more useful

45)Fix the TNT Powerup

46)Fix the Lazer Shield Event!!!!!

47)Stop hacking from occuring, that doesn't include JCS.ini Modifications

48)Make the TNT hurt Event other rabbits in Party Mode

49)Fix the fake hurting your team members with the RF Missles

-50-)UNSURE: If not yet, make the TNT Powerup Event

hurt other rabbits in Party Mode

51)Make a better Tileset Tutorial. Include this in the JCS Help.

52)Make a Event List, and include explanations for each event (including the fixed ones). Include this in the JCS Help.

53)Add Race to MultiplayerJJ2

54)Include these tutorials to JCS Help:

-Colored Level Name Tutorial

-Colored Server Name Tutorial

-Colored Text in MultiplayerJJ2 Tutorial

-Colored Text Strings Tutorial

-Colored Fur Tutorial



These tutorials are for new people

55)Be able to name your player in Single Player/CO-OP Jazz2

56)Be able to change your Fur in Single Player/CO-OP Jazz2

57)Explain better on how to edit you Filter, and IP Filter. Write a Readme text file for this.

58)Try to be able to ban all cusses and their forms in MultiplayerJJ2.

59)Fix the bug which makes you stuck in the walls when you put directly to the north, south, east, or west of the wall using a: Warp Target Event or Start Position Event. Note: this is a tad bit different from Magoo's found bug.

60)Fix the other Flag Bug, where you start with the flag after death



Well that's it, exactly 59/60 bugs, including Magoo's 4 bugs. Heh, it took me a while to write this list? I, although am making a JCS.ini patch to correct some of these bugs.

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Hmmm...



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The Fire Sword! keeps on burning and burning and burning...

what about the slide event?

lol!

what for bug is lol!??

Add Overlord Serverlist Patch Intoo 1.25..

add a Mode.

InstaGib if Possible?

61) Make an "Auto switch weapons" option - on/off.

62) Faster buttstomp so when you press down you buttstomp instantly and not rotate in the air for 3 years :P

63) Add the ability to add mutators to the server like InstaGib, Unlimited ammo, Invincibility, Blaster arena, bouncy arena, ...

64) Make something that will stop hurting people through walls or out of nowhere (anti-lag)

65) In the main menu when you go to new game, party mode, ... Start a new game, local players and press ESC you get the Choose Party Mode screen and then when you select Done the "join another game, start a new game" screen appears instead of "local players" screen. Fix this.



I had some more in mind...

On 8:50pm 9-22-2001, JJ Tublear wrote:

5)Add CO-Operative Mode to MultiplayerJJ2

XJJ2 too messed up for you?

7)Make the Rocket Turtle Event, work like the other Bosses

Maybe it's just me, but I like it fine the way it is.

8)Fix Bolly Boss Event

I didn't know it had a bug. What is it?

10)Make the Auto Fire Event be more useful

More useful? It does something already?

11)Make the Witch Event much more easier to kill, make it like all the other Baddies

If you do that, at least let you choose whether it's easy to kill. The Witch deserves to be the way it is.

12)Fix the Bees Event

But it's so useful the way it is! If you fix this event, kindly make another way to make wall and ceilling spikes hurt, because without "Bees" it won't work. (Except for quick spawn Butterfly, but it's not the same)

13)Fix the Addon DOG Event

It works in TSF... Are you saying you want it in 1.23?

14)Put the Rocket Turtle Event in the Bosses section

I don't know about you, but I could do that on my own.

17)Fix the Addon Spark Event

And what will it be? A spark that comes at you when you look at it?

20)Fix the Test 1-6 Events

Huh? What are these?

21)Fix Tube Turtle Event

I have found no problems. Explain, please.

22)Fix Butterfly Event

Again, what will it do?

27)Fix the Bonus Level Signpost Event

28)Fix the End of Level Signpost Event

What are the problems with those two sign posts? They work just fine for me.

29)Make the Event # appear without having to select, Create a Generator for this event

30)Make the Event # Unchangable

You've lost me. What do you mean?

31)Fix the Carrot Crate Event

32)Fix the Gun Crate Event

I PRESUME you mean a Multiplayer problem?

37)Delete the RectGem Blue Event

38)Delete the RectGem Green Event

39)Delete the RectGem Red Event

What have you got against RectGems? They work perfectly! They're even different from normal gems!

42)UNDECIDED: Delete the Freeze Enemies Event.

No. It is extremly useful.

DECIDED: Rename Freeze Enemies to Freeze Rabbits, and make it so you can't get affected by the event.

Two things. One, it's called that because it IS sort of an enemy, and another is if it doesn't effect you, what in the world is it good for?

43)Make the Invincibility Event be more useful

What's the problem with it? In Single Player it works fine, and can you imagine the problems it would cause in Multi Player? This was discussed somewhere, but I forgot where.

45)Fix the TNT Powerup

You said that before.

48)Make the TNT hurt Event other rabbits in Party Mode

Could you explain further?

49)Fix the fake hurting your team members with the RF Missles

I don't know about you, but I think that's fun.

58)Try to be able to ban all cusses and their forms in MultiplayerJJ2.

If you don't like this, put every single one you can think of in your filter, and add any new ones you find.

59)Fix the bug which makes you stuck in the walls when you put directly to the north, south, east, or west of the wall using a: Warp Target Event or Start Position Event. Note: this is a tad bit different from Magoo's found bug.

It only accurs when you're under or to the right of a wall. To the left and above do not get you stuck.

60)Fix the other Flag Bug, where you start with the flag after death

I have no complaint, but let me just say that it acts just as you would expect it to. (I would give an explanation, but it would tell people how)

Well that's it, exactly 59/60 bugs, including Magoo's 4 bugs. Heh, it took me a while to write this list? I, although am making a JCS.ini patch to correct some of these bugs.

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Also, Overlord, I would greatly appreciate it if that Buttstomp hover thing was kept. Not only is it the key to defeating Bilsy and will sometime protect you from being injured or roasted in Party Mode, I have found some other uses for it as well in various cases.





(Also, I am not official, but I like taking peoples' posts to pieces)

tweedle boss! please!

Whatever, Unknown Rabbit. It took me longer to make that list than you to destroy my list. Now you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Looks like I have some changes to make to the list.

For 57 and 58, we just need to implement the filters..

We should add some sort of console in jj2 that would allow advanced users to change their settings, names and various other things during play. It should also allow servers to change levels and whatnot. Also, there should be more options for the start server menu with things such as max ammo settings, admins for your server (if you are hosting a dedicated one), Time limit, teamkill, Max health (can be set above 5), "Blinking" time (how long you stay invincible after you are hit in seconds), maximum amount of fastfires, starting weapons, server messages that are shown when you start up, mapcycles, the ability to disable coloured names, the ability to force people to have colons, auto kicking of idle people (good for those jerks that grab the flag and go idle), spam control and the ability do disable/replace some pickups such as shields. The console could allow the server to do things such as kick/ban people, edit names, edit teams, pause the game, edit the score, change the level, change the gametype and generally edit any of the above options and ones already included with the game.



Finally, mouse support should be added for all those menus.

"Whatever, Unknown Rabbit. It took me longer to make that list than you to destroy my list. Now you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Looks like I have some changes to make to the list."



JJ, I believe he was just trying to improve upon your suggestions.



Also, please remember we would like to have JJ2 remain backwards compatiable.

agrees with bob

I have a few suggestions.....



1) Make events work on the very bottom and farthest right tiles, (as they don't now)



2) make an event that disables Jazz's helicopter-ears and/or uppercut, Spaz's double jump and/or kick, and/or buttstomping



3)Add the ability to create episodes out of your lvl packs in JCS, and use a bmp or jpg image as the pic (if possible)



4) edit the anims.j2a and add Lori into it, and make TSF, HH98, and CC compatible with the new 1.25



5)Allow custom music to download as well as levels and tilesets



6) Add more colours to the pallate



7) make JCS compatible with 16/24-bit bmps, (and update Jazz2 so that it is at least 16 bit instead of 256 colour.) That way tileset creation is easier, and looks nicer too.



8) (this one might not work, but...) make Jazz2 able to use a Winamp, Windows MediaPlayer, Realplayer, or some other program to use mp3/wav files as music



9)try to fix JCS so that 1.24 JCS lvls and tilesets work with 1.23, (going to be 1.25)



10) fix the lvl text so that you can have more than 15 messages, and make it so that you can choose which words you want to colour, instead of all the words that are after the "#", and se able to select what colours you want them to be.



11) make all local players able to talk in internet play, not just player 1



12)Make all colours of the 256 colour pallate available for typing, not just 8,



13) Make the Bird and Frog selectable characters along with Jazz, Spaz, and Lori on the player config menu.



14) make the bird able to shoot, and the frog's tongue hurt other people



15) Make Eva a playable character, (most of her animations are already done in the CTF base and Eva events.



oh yeah.... another cool idea,



16) if the player hosting, (player 1), quits the game, make player 2 (or next player on the list) take over as host, instead of booting everyone off the server and it closing.



well, that's all for now, I'll probobly think of some more stuff later.

1 more suggestion...



Maybe you should edit the animations, so that a little "!" mark appears over your character's head when you're typing.

That way, people won't shoot you while you're vulnerable, (or the exact opposite would happen, but it would be considered cheap, like shields.)

Good idea.



Some more ideas that I have for options are the amount of ammo in powerups, the option to allow the person killed to drop all their ammo, the ability to pick up ammo released from crates and barrels even when you are at full (to cut back on lag), the duration of items such as shields and invincibility, an option to set it so powerups to not dissapear from you when you run out of ammo for that weapon, speed settings (for us hyperactive people) and the ability to force default team.

Wow! theres so many great ideas in here that i can't keep up with them all.

In responce to Hellraiser's suggestions:



#5. It would be best to make that an option the user can set.

#6. It's an 8bit pallete, and specifically 8bit. You can't add more colors. Besides, that more than a "reasonable fix," which I was asking for.

#15. Eva doesn't have enough frames of animation to become a playable character right now. The frog has more frames of animation than Eva.



Also, I really like EvilMike's console idea, but that would take a lot more work.

Yeah..



as for the console, we wouldn't need a console per se. We could have the person type "/console set blah sdihvxcuilh" or whatever, and parse it there (after all, it already looks to see if it's /kick or /ban).



And you could save configs in a textfile and have a "/console load settings.cfg" or something, or maybe even have a default.cfg which is applied every time you serve or whatever..



Wouldn't be that hard.. The hard part would be making the changes that the console could change (if that makes sense)

k.. I never said that all the frames for Eva were there. I said some. (maybe most, but if I said most I meant some).



But is my idea for player 2 to take over as host of the server when player 1 leaves a good one? (note that the player hosting has the option to let the next player take over or close the server.

I really doubt that would work. If another person takes over as a server, the servers IP would change, it's latency would change, and the level cycle may not agree with what is on the takeover host's computer.

Yea, I think the level cycle would be the main problem.

On 3:02pm 9-23-2001, Unknown Rabbit wrote:



Also, Overlord, I would greatly appreciate it if that Buttstomp hover thing was kept. Not only is it the key to defeating Bilsy and will sometime protect you from being injured or roasted in Party Mode, I have found some other uses for it as well in various cases.

Well ok. But the protection doesn't work with seekers. They push you into the air.





I had some time to think and here are my second wishes:

-Fix seekers so they explode and hurt you when they hit you and not push you into the air.

-Seekers sometimes also home into empty place and hoover there before they explode. I want seekers to ignore these places.

-We should be able to use longer names. I know it's possible to do it along with some tools but it should be possible inside the menu.

-Ability to add colors to your name as well as your server name in menu.

-When you get hurt by seekers in the air you lose control and computer ignores your moves. You can't move 'till you hit the ground(and usually die) and if you don't you can get hit 2 times in the air without touching the ground(happens in battle1 alot to me)... Fix this.

-Long downloading... When I'm about to be done downloading when I join a game that uses a big tileset I get an "Connection timed out" message instead of entering the game. Fix this.

-Umm...



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And you suck too.



Stronghold: Jazz, RHG

-Fix the net coding to be more efficent (I surely thing we could "compress" this to at least 50% of it's size)

-Add more modem priority to Jazz2 (Don't you notice how it always doesn't go full speed?)

-More responsive controls (In tests you'll notice at least a 1 second (really) delay on a double jump and you may have to press it like 5 times for it to work.

Another good idea would be to make JCS able to have 2 events on 1 tile. eg: you want to make a chat room, so you use the "nofirezone" event. But in the square where the warp target is, people can still shoot. but if you were to put both the warp target and the nofirezone on that tile, then people would be able to warp to that spot, plus they couldn't fire.



another example.. say you wanted to put text, ammo or food inside a suck tube that's at a slow speed. If you were to have the text/ammo/food event instead of the sucker tube event in 1 of the tiles along the tube, Jazz would fall. But if you were able to put the text/ammo/food on the same tile as the sucker tube, then Jazz could get the ammo/food, or the text would pop up, but Jazz would also hit the sucker tube event and keep going.



This one could easily be done.

How about different events for different frames of an animation? First you shoot the star block, then it turns into a lock block that you need to hit a trigger crate to open. (That has just GOT to be impossible)

Some things I'd like to see rectified:
- A limit to the length of a sever name, because I'm trying to figure out the type of game or the ping yet the 250 word long server name is in the way.

- The annoying repeating flag message bug. I hate that. It ought to be burnt.

- The thing that stops your typed message from appearing. Dunno why it happens.

- Include a good tileset-base in the folder. You know, a bmp of a tileset grid used for making tilesets. A good one, cause I can't find any decent ones.

- Fix the bug where you crash/time out of a server and go back in, only to find the server has not registered you leaving. This results in 2 or more of the same name, one being yourself, and one being no-one. The no-one is nowhere in the game, but his name is still in the list because the server doesn't realise.

- Make all coloured names revert to the default in CTF. Otherwise it's too hard to tell who's on what team.

- If you're playing with two or more people on one computer, the 'team colour' option doesn't work and picks whatever team it wants.

- Fix the JCS bug where flipping an animated tile causes a crash. (Or something like that. It could be flipped destruct tile, I'm not sure)

Originally posted by defalcon
Some things I'd like to see rectified:
- A limit to the length of a sever name, because I'm trying to figure out the type of game or the ping yet the 250 word long server name is in the way.

- The annoying repeating flag message bug. I hate that. It ought to be burnt.

If you're so set against it, just put a boarder of one (maybe two) solidly masked tiles around the entire level.

- The thing that stops your typed message from appearing. Dunno why it happens.

If you press backspace more times then your previously planned message has characters, then the new message you type in its place will not work.

- Include a good tileset-base in the folder. You know, a bmp of a tileset grid used for making tilesets. A good one, cause I can't find any decent ones.

Will the automatic grid function do? Wait, I don't know what pain program you use.

- Fix the bug where you crash/time out of a server and go back in, only to find the server has not registered you leaving. This results in 2 or more of the same name, one being yourself, and one being no-one. The no-one is nowhere in the game, but his name is still in the list because the server doesn't realise.

- Make all coloured names revert to the default in CTF. Otherwise it's too hard to tell who's on what team.

- If you're playing with two or more people on one computer, the 'team colour' option doesn't work and picks whatever team it wants.

- Fix the JCS bug where flipping an animated tile causes a crash. (Or something like that. It could be flipped destruct tile, I'm not sure)

Unknown...do you have to be so critical about it? Fixing bugs is GOOD and you're making it seem like we should just live with them instead of fixing them.

Macros!

PHP Code:

if (CurrentRabbit.GemCount >= 50) {
CurrentLevel.TileMatrix[23][10] = CurrentLevel.Tileset.Tile['blank'];
}
else
{
CurrentRabbit.Write("@@@#HA HA HA! You cannot enter until you find ALL 50 GEMS!!!!!");
} 


See what I'm getting at? With macros you could do ANYTHING! Single player puzzles would be really really good. In multiplayer you could write your own modes of gameplay even! It would be good for stuff like chat rooms (automatic KICK if they try to hurt people in it, or maybe just prevent them from doing anything except chatting until they press L to leave). You could make destruct blocks you have to shoot into a certain shape before the door opens (kind of like that hat thing in Kirby 64). You could have password prompts. You could make rooms only the server can get into. You could make CTF jails people have to rescue you from. And so much more!

Just a note on trying to make it backward compatible: Can we really make something super good and still keep it backward compatible? There are all these great ideas, but none of them will be possible if "Oh we can't do that because it wouldn't be compatible with previous versions". Version 1.20 wasn't compatible with 1.23 was it? If it absolutely must be backward compatible, maybe put in a "1.23 mode" that emulates that version, and have a "full potential mode" which has all the new features.

Link I had that idea to.. 1.23/24 mode

Originally posted by Link
Unknown...do you have to be so critical about it? Fixing bugs is GOOD and you're making it seem like we should just live with them instead of fixing them.

No, I just have little or no belief 1.25 will actually be made so I'm trying to explain ways to not fix, but make it so those problems don't actualy come up.

On a side note, I almost feel personally attacked.

uh? I dont get it

Instead of making it backwards compatible, why not make the patch work on both 1.23 and 1.24, and making them both the same version 1.25 (adding Lori to the 1.23 to make it fully compatible)

thats an option yes

Fix the seeker hole bug.

lol loads of stuff, has anyone started making 1.25 yet?

Seeker hole bug? lol, never heard of that one, what is it?

-Another (ANNOYING) bug is the airboard thing. You can't lift off into the air if you're on the ground.

-Lori helicopter bug

-Fix TNT for multiplayer (it's practically useless)

-One-shot-kill seeker

Ack! Every time one of these come up I forget about all the stuff I wanted to fix, I should make a list and write it down as I remember...

Compiled a small list of everything excluding all the b*ll-crap.
And no, you can't see the rest of this document.

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Wish list:
- Every Jazz Jackrabbit 2(tm) feature
- Replace Epic Megagames intro with Epic Games intro
- Replace Orange Games intro with Lost Boys intro
- Replace Project2 intro with Project 3 Interactive intro
- Full *.xm/*.it-modules support (Update Galaxy Sound System or use FMOD-engine?)
- Full *.mp3/*.wma/*.wav support (FMOD-engine?)
- Any of the above mentioned music formats in their compressed from (zipped: *.xmz/*.itz/etc.)
- Custom music format (*.x2b) similar to that of Unreal (multiple songs per file)
- Custom sound effects using any of the supported sound-formats
- 24 bit colors or full 16 bit colors support (instead of 16 bit whilst using an 8 bit palette)
- Multiple tilesets per level (think Unreal(tm))
- Multiple musics per level (think Unreal(tm)), special event to trigger this
- User customizable player-models (sprites, vector or 3D models/skins?)
- User customizable in-game events (e.g. scripted as in Unreal(tm)) via scripting
- User customizable game modes (think Unreal(tm)) via plug-ins/MODs (*.x2g)
- Visual effects hard-coded instead of e.g. palet-animations (warping backgrounds)
- Gnutella-like server system (no central game-servers)
- Built-in dedicated server system
- Upon unavailability automated level, tilesets, player-models downloading
- Seperate tileset directory
- Seperate level directory
- Seperate music directory
- Episode packs (*.x2e) are renamed zip-files of the required components, e.g.
	hh2002.x2e contains the following files:
	hhlevel1.x2l - level 1
	hhlevel2.x2l - level 2
	hhlevel3.x2l - level 3
	hhmusic.x2m - music file
	title.gif - picture for episode title in selection screen (using magic-pink for transparency)
	preview.gif - picture for episode "poster" in selection screen
	hh2002.lst - level list
	file_id.diz - comments (displayed in selection screen)
- Define order of levels in seperate file rather than in the levels themselves. Use *.lst for this, e.g.
	hh2002.lst contains the following lines:
	void start() {
		hhlevel1.x2l
		if ( eol == 0 ) {
		hhlevel2.x2l
		} else {
		hhlevel3.x2l
		}
	}
- Scripting in levellist, allowing for multiple endings (see example above)
- Backwards compatible multiplayer games, i.e. higher version clients can connect to lower version servers but NOT vice versa
- "No fire zone"-event as a switch rather as a zone-layer, i.e. if "No fire zone" is set to "0" and the player
  passes through that block, "no fire" is set to "off".  If "No fire zone" is set to "1" and the player passes through that block,
  "no fire" is set to "on".
- Lose current carrying weapon upon being roasted, left to be picked up by offending player
- Friendly fire options (think Unreal(tm))
- Spectator mode (think Unreal(tm))
- Easier demo/macro recording and replay options (think Quake 3(tm))
- Fix flag bugs
- Don't get stuck on corners or in (badly masked) tiles after a warp
- Team/private chat messages
- Rocket Turtles :)
- Ability to vary the shots needed to kill baddies/bosses
- Multiple events per tile (e.g. split specific events up in categories.
  You can only use events from different categories on one tile at the same time.)
- Use more memory (if available; probably will need a whole lot more than the original Jazz Jackrabbit 2)
- Don't quit program upon missing a file, instead give an error and the option to go back to the previous/main menu
- Make all weapon powerups really do something (e.g. the TNT powerup does virtually nothing now)
- Fix the Laser Shield event
- Better documentation (JCS Help, Game Help)
- Easier access and usage of the bad-word filter
- Usage of wildcards in the filter
- Expand the supplied filter list
- Serverlist patch standard included
- Slide event (e.g. as in Jazz Jackrabbit 1, where you can slide on the ice)
- "Auto switch weapons"-switch
- Add commands to use in the game for e.g. changing names (e.g. "/set_name Haze")
- Add time-limit as an option for multiplayer games
- Add MOTD for servers
- In CTF and other team-modes have the engine overwrite any coloured names and use the team colours
- Add "auto-kick" option to prevent campers cheaters
- If (in online game) user is using items not present in the level then "auto-kick"
- Add some anti-spam options (e.g. if line is "displayed" more than 5 times it will be blocked out
  until a different line of text is inputted)
- Make events work at the bottom and farthest right of the playing field
- Option in the level editor (JCS) to save in an older compatible mode (e.g. v1.23/v1.24 compatible)
- Players that are inputting text or commands are marked with an "!" above their heads ingame
- Bot support :) (working on the theory)
- Ability to input coloured (server)names ingame instead of using an outside tool
- Add Lori as a standard character :) (copyright problems?)
- Make local CTF work without having to put a border around the entire level
- Fix the Lori-copter problem (Lori can already use the copter, it's just not implemented right)

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