tell some of the levels what u are buiding and goning on j2o

[cooba]

Those blocks are too bright to be used in the background.

Speaking of the background, the mountains ring a bell ;|

[Eigus]

Those blocks are too bright to be used in the background.

Speaking of the background, the mountains ring a bell ;|

will making the layer speed higher so it'll look like the 'temples' are closer to the sprite layer work?

[cooba]

They still wouldn't work with the dark cave tiles in front of them

[Stijn]

http://www.stijnpeeters.nl/hd/Image3.png

[Valco]

OMG gravel! That tileset is going to be the best ever!

[EvilMike]

Not just that! Look, there's moss! Gravel and moss! Dot j2t!

9.5

[Violet CLM]

<img src="http://www.geocities.com/pedroguimo/1c.gif">
This one looks less blown up and pixelated, hoorah!

[Stijn]

Well, for this one the "tiles" are actually 32x32, so I just kept them their original size here 8)

[Unhit]

also this one might do as a viking tileset so gg (at least the terrain is ok)
you know what i mean (!)

[CrimiClown]

http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/luigi.png

[Valco]

That reminds me of when I made Jazz and Spaz from the Top][Secret set.

[Birdie]

That layout is amazing crimi.

[CrimiClown]

That layout is amazing crimi.

Thanks. ;) I never pixeled in JCS before so even I got kind of amazed.

[Unhit]

I like how you emphasized the, obviously low, nipples (!)

[CrimiClown]

I like how you emphasized the, obviously low, nipples (!)

Those are the buttons of his overalls*. D=

[n00b]

... overalls?

[Odin]

luigi

MAMA? MAMA LUIGI?!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Jimbob]

Hi y'all. It's me, Jimbob, again. Just letting you guys know that I am making progress (slowly, but surely) on Emerald Forest. I now have the layout complete, and I am adding in <ibn="gwe"> some more eyecandy.</ibn>
<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/EmeraldForestRe-do4.png?t=1206062854">

[Valco]

TILEBUGZ !

Besides that little problem in the background, it's looking quite nice.

[Jimbob]

Unfortunately there's no way to fix that tilebug in the bright green leaves. D:

[Bboy Type7]

http://chaos.foxmage.com/CrimiClown/luigi.png

lookin good. keep up the good work man.

[DarkSonic]

And I was the one who was watching while he made that. It was really fun.

About the level: it took us longer to make than we expected at first, maybe that's because we put more time into the eye candy than planned. We had some funny ideas (like the TNT in the tree) and I think we both did as much. The idea of starting with a weapon was made up by Crimiclown. We didn't know that the platform lift didn't work in Multiplayer, but we found that out when we first hosted the level. I did most of the eye candy, but Crimiclown helped me a bit with finding the right tiles and such. He also made most of the background and the ammo placement. Anyway, have fun with the level!

[Jimbob]

About Emerald Forest: As you can see, here I am at the red base.
<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/EmeraldForestRe-do5.png?t=1206559820">
(The music is (still) aws_cave.xm.)
As you can also see, I made an evening version of this level as a bonus for people who hate the darkness in the other version:
<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/EmeraldForestRe-do5b.png?t=1206559896">
(The music here has been changed to mikko56.s3m.)
EDIT: <font size="1"><a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/private.php?do=newpm&u=2546">Private message me</a> if you want to test the level so far. Eyecandy and ammo placement is not complete, however the layout is complete.</font>

[PurpleJazz]

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2606/jazz0006ss1.png

From what logic interprets in this screenshot, Water = Death.
How to get past this part?

WAIT AND SEE

[n00b]

n00bs solution: Watch enemy movement carefully, wait for best time to strike, shoot the friggin' fish.

[Valco]

Bouncers.

Unless the fish respawn, then just take the damage and run out of there before you're damaged again. Unless there are INVISIBLE WALLS around it. :!

[Birdie]

he can't swim >.>

[DoubleGJ]

use Rapiers as stepping stones by stomping on them

simple as that

EDIT: although that spike boll may be a problem...

[cooba]

Mi Crappi Atemput Att Esspee By Prupeljazz Adged Fre An A HarfWhat's with the awfully pretentional mistyping?

Screenshot looks okay.

[FireSworD]

I think that screenshot looks interesting. If there is a good story involved, this is really something to look forward to.

Also, is this just one level or an entire pack?

[cooba]

<img src="http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7169/devres44undergroundrivejq5.png" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/>http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2606/jazz0006ss1.png<!--//-->

[PurpleJazz]

I think that screenshot looks interesting. If there is a good story involved, this is really something to look forward to.

Also, is this just one level or an entire pack?

Both of those are currently unconfirmed.

(Screens)

Well, yes, Mike's screen did inspire me for this part of the level.
Don't go calling it a rip off though just because it looks a little bit similar...

[EvilMike]

Great now I have to release it before it looks like a ripoff.

No more screenshots for you.


<!--this post isn't serious by the way-->

[PurpleJazz]

Great now I have to release it before it looks like a ripoff.

No more screenshots for you.


<!--this post isn't serious by the way-->

This is only a very small part of the level; the rest looks very different.

[EvilMike]

Heh yeah I'm looking forward to playing it actually, you pay a lot of attention to detail I see. More than I can ever bother, I never have the time or patience to make eyecandy that detailed in singleplayer levels. Good job with the waterfalls ending at the water level! That is how it should be!

[snzspeed]

i dont think that level is a ripoff.. its just probably inspired by evilmike's level.

[Ragnarok!]

Bwehehe. Kill the wabbit.

Edit : I've decided on stopping my races ;[ I'm gonna make batches of CTFs and release the best ones 2 by 2.

[Valco]

Bwehehe. Kill the wabbit.

Edit : I've decided on stopping my races ;[ I'm gonna make batches of CTFs and release the best ones 2 by 2.

And I was just enjoying the bit of competition.

[Birdie]

I'm sure rag's races would pwn yours. D:
did you at least finish the wsf one, rag?

[Robee]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3668/jbjwm6.jpg

[Raven aka StL]

That picture gives the image that one can shoot the full carrot into a pit, thus 'eliminating' it from gameplay. This would be a huge flaw.

Otherwise, good job, but there are some small detail problems and other nitpicky stuff.
But not bad for a relatively inexperienced levelmaker.

[CrimiClown]

Robee, I really like the screenshot, but there's something bothering me... there are TREES growing in LAVA. D:

[Robee]

St. Louis, there is a floor, so carrot can't fall down and You can get it.

. - Floor
X - Float up



CAR
| |
|XXXXXXXXX|
|.........|

[DoubleGJ]

Work a bit on ground variations. Diamond placement is nice, but there are also various plain ground tiles in the set plus also one tile with a leaf. You could mix the slope tiles a bit more, too.

[CrimiClown]

St. Louis, there is a floor, so carrot can't fall down and You can get it.

. - Floor
X - Float up



CAR
| |
|XXXXXXXXX|
|.........|

LASERSHIELD WILL PWN CARROT

[Valco]

<STRIKE>Initiating sarcastic jerk mode</STRIKE> I don't see a car in the picture. Is there even a car in the tileset?

[n00b]

Robee, I really like the screenshot, but there's something bothering me... there are TREES growing in LAVA. D:

What?! Thats my favorite part.

[CrimiClown]

What?! Thats my favorite part.

.... I still got lasershield... Duck, n00b.

[Jimbob]

Crimi, don't be a silly goose.

[Raven aka StL]

If the lava isn't a death pit, it gives the level a bad feel imo. :)
Also, retrieving the carrot from a pit like that might not be good for the gameplay.

[cooba]

Ammo, carrots, and other shootable events should not be placed too close to pits.<!---->

[Ragnarok!]

Carrotade Pit Level Example made a post to JCF? :o
And wouldn't it be Carrotade Pit Example Level? I'm sure that was his name.

Ya uh, you could just put the carrot:

A) Elsewhere
B) On the floor
C) In the ceiling
D) In the same place except no pit.

[cooba]

In the ceilingIt can still fall down from there

[Ragnarok!]

Not if you do it right. ;0.. Actually you can abuse it with flamethrowers. I guess you can also put it against the wall.

[Valco]

I finally got around to taking the screenshots for the third level of Grace. Gameplaywise, I'd say Temple of Shifting Sand is the best level in the pack, but you can't know for sure until I make Ice Climber, the final level in the pack. Anyways, on with the original subject:

Jazz VS The totally original aquaduct!

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7214/gracepic3td0.jpg



Controlling your jumps and speed is the most important part of the level!
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5192/gracepic4yn6.jpg


I hope it looks as awesome as I think it is.

[Nonomu198]

It sure is not tileset wise.

[Valco]

What's that supposed to mean?

[EvilMike]

He means the water looks kind of ugly. It's not horrible, considering the tileset doesn't have anything better, but it's not pretty either.

[Valco]

At least the aquaduct belts are only there for a short part of the race. The rest should have decent eyecandy.

[cooba]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7214/gracepic3td0.jpgNow I know what did I forget when making WTF

[Violet CLM]

CrysilisV solves all your aqueduct needs, embrace it.

[Ragnarok!]

Im using CrysillisV, and yeah it does. Don't convince others to beat my level before I make it :( :( :(!!! No real aqueducts, but the level does have water leaking ALL THE WAY through it. It looks nice if you notice it. Amazing set you have.. :]

[Valco]

CrysilisV solves all your aqueduct needs, embrace it.

I'd rather use this tileset and have a small bit of ugliness that redo it with CrysillisV and have it look nice with poorer gameplay.

[Birdie]

I'd rather use this tileset and have a small bit of ugliness that redo it with CrysillisV and have it look nice with poorer gameplay.

how would that tileset effect the gameplay?

[Odin]

how would that tileset effect the gameplay?

I'm guessing that since he has to make the level again from scratch, the quality would be lower since he would rush production... I think.

[Valco]

how would that tileset effect the gameplay?

Odin answered this partly, the other reason is that CryssilisV doesn't have the tiles necessary to make this level. Odin was right though, it would probably be rushed work.

EDIT:

Pageclaim. :|

[Ragnarok!]

I think CrysillisV has much more possibilities than I give it credit for... ;[.

[Valco]

I know it has a LOT of possibilities, but not the ones that I need.

[Jimbob]

After downloading and playing DS's new level in SP, I was thinking of using the music RESP-Z.xm in a battleships level. I suddenly got inspired to do this, and it is turning out quite well so far:
<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/jimbobbsunited1.png?t=1207445963">
A very incomplete battle level this is, and the aforementioned music matches it very well.

[Valco]

It just looks cluttered to me, like you stuffed your whole level into that screenshot. There's too much detail distracting you and that will probably make gameplay worse. Also, why the oddly hearts in the corner?

[Jimbob]

It just looks cluttered to me, like you stuffed your whole level into that screenshot. There's too much detail distracting you and that will probably make gameplay worse.
It's called EYECANDY. Without it, it would be like it was almost no level at all. And tell me how it could make the gameplay worse.
Also, why the oddly hearts in the corner?
I used JSD to hack the heart sprite a long time ago.
<font size="1">PS: If this came across as a PA or anything negative, I'm sorry. I'm trying not to be so negative.</font>

[Eigus]

It looks nice and all, but Zodiak's Respirator in a Battleships level? :l Oh well. I do not know the real atmosphere of the level yet, so I can't really judge if it fits or not, but it seems pretty weird to me.

[Valco]

It's called EYECANDY. Without it, it would be like it was almost no level at all. And tell me how it could make the gameplay worse.
PS: If this came across as a PA or anything negative, I'm sorry. I'm trying not to be so negative.

I get into some arguements, but I'm not THAT easily offended. Anyways, what I meant by my post was that there was too much eyecandy, and you see the eyecandy before you see the level. To make better eyecandy, dim it with transclucent blackness, so you can see it, but it's not distracting or painful to the eyes. Luckily, yours isn't the latter. It makes gameplay worse because it redirects your concentration to the awkward rays of colour. Not a real problem, but it can be improved.

[Jimbob]

Also, just a small little update: I removed the ships that I had in the foreground (There was too many!)

[Valco]

Good! I think the player should be able to focus on the actual level now.

[Puffie40]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w33/Puffie40/Bouncess.jpg

A medium (67x67) sized battle level that has been sitting around for a while. Just finished testing it, and Just released (http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=5052)

Good! I think the player should be able to focus on the actual level now.
I can't help but think that comment was abrasive. People don't like being told what to do, especially if you are arrogant about it.

[Valco]

I can't help but think that comment was abrasive. People don't like being told what to do, especially if you are arrogant about it.

That post shows neither. Is it arrogant to tell people what they did right and should continue to do?

Anyways, what tileset did you use for the level shown? It looks Cryssilisy, but not from any tileset I've seen.

[Birdie]

The tileset used is jj1 orbitus, <!--FALCO-->Valco.

[Valco]

Thanks.

[Puffie40]

If you clicked the link, you would have seen what it was :-)

[cooba]

<img src="http://chaos.foxmage.com/cooba/devpalace.png" />

[Valco]

Creative use of trees in the windows. Maybe there could be a teleport to the inside of the room? Then again, I have no idea what gametype that is. But teleports to the inside are alwasy good. :)

[Violet CLM]

Whoa, that's gorgeous.

[FireSworD]

I'm not sure how to react to that, it looks very creative but I want to know what's going on.

[Eigus]

<img src="http://chaos.foxmage.com/cooba/devpalace.png" />

Is it just me or a sandstorm is coming? ;O

Anyway, it looks awesome.

[Caffne]

It does look a bit like a sandstorm. I do like the trees growing through the windows.

[Olsen]

I find the tree's going through the windows... weird. :/ Otherwise it looks great, I always liked the way you can use the background in that tileset.

(why am I getting red dots under my words?)

[Raven aka StL]

I'd like to beta-test that level. I'm curious about what the trees look like in motion.
Anyway, in a frozen frame it does look relatively nice.

[PurpleJazz]

That level looks inspiring.

[Jimbob]

<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/EmeraldForestRe-do7.png?t=1208030368">

<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/EmeraldForestRe-do6.png?t=1208030396">
It's really cool that Emerald Forest is almost done, and it will be released in a few days, if not less (betatesting, w00t!). I can not wait :<hi>DDDDDDD!!!!!! This is my best level BY FAR, and I was just hosting it online. The gameplay is AWESOME.
EDIT: <a href="http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/info.php?levelID=5060">I thought right now might be a good time to release it.</a>

[Valco]

<STRIKE>UGLY UGLY UGLY</STRIKE>

It looks classical to me. Nothing really new about it, just another level to play. Eyecandy is good though, the above strike is just my poor sense of humor.

[Xobim]

It needs more eyecandy on the foreground.

[EvilMike]

Yeah I won't play a level unless 50% of the screen is blocked by pretty graphics at any given moment.

[n00b]

Seriously Xobim? Using any Agama tileset just averagely produces amazingly pretty results, its fine the way it is.

[Electric Ir]

http://www.proud2rock.com/hosts/moon1.png
(Bottom right corner shows some unfinished parts)

[Xobim]

Seriously Xobim? Using any Agama tileset just averagely produces amazingly pretty results, its fine the way it is.Well, comparing it to the background the foreground looks too empty to me. Ofcourse it shouldn't be overdone, as Evilmike is implying...

[Eigus]

looks like jazz is singing and the turtle is amazed

[Nonomu198]

No. This is Darth Turtle, and he is using the DARK side of the force to choke Jazz.

[Eigus]

it should be dark shell or whatever he was called, then

[Nonomu198]

Dark Shell is no sith. He is just a turtle with an abnormal tech sense.

[Valco]

Sounds like a Dr.Seuss ryhme or something like that.

[SPAZ18]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2364/spaz18scbv5.png (http://imageshack.us)

I have now decided to call the level Submerged Caverns. I thought this sounded a lot nicer than "Aquatic Antics."
I played around with the background in Layer 8 by putting in the blank Destruct Scenery block in for a joke but then I actually thought it looks really awesome.

[Eigus]

O+, sir

[cooba]

The background is <em>not</em> really awesome.

[Nonomu198]

As is the level.

[Raven aka StL]

That looks somewhat interesting.

[Puffie40]

http://www.maj.com/gallery/puffie40/Jazzavatar/Screenshots/sstilepreview.jpg

"Look at you, Jazz. A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?"

I finally got ticked off enough about no actual space-station tilesets for my levelset that I started making this conversion of system shock.

[EvilMike]

People really need to stop saving screenshots as .jpg.

Anyway a conversion of an fps game can be interesting. You will need to make some original tiles though, since jj2 is 2d!

[Speeza]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2364/spaz18scbv5.png (http://imageshack.us)

I have now decided to call the level Submerged Caverns. I thought this sounded a lot nicer than "Aquatic Antics."
I played around with the background in Layer 8 by putting in the blank Destruct Scenery block in for a joke but then I actually thought it looks really awesome.

This looks great :O

[Valco]

The lack of background ruins the nice* eyecandy in my opinion.

*By my standards

[FireSworD]

That screenshot is average.

[PurpleJazz]

I'd be carefull with using that amount of Water in that level, since movement in it is very slow and limiting, and it's a lot harder to aim/dodge bullets. While the idea may fit with the theme you're aiming for, but when the level gets put into practise players will probably be annoyed by the generally slow gameplay, and not have an enjoyable time playing.

Water can be put to good use if the level is made so that players aren't forced to use it to get from base to base, instead they only need to use it as an extra route which could provide them with some advantages strategically than if they took the faster route(s).

Just keep this in mind.

Forgive me if I made any typing mistakes, I'm in a bit of a hurry.

[SPAZ18]

It's not a CTF now. Removed the Bases and changed it to Battle.
Also, I have changed the Background.
More screens to come!

[Eigus]

mm, battle :-D

I think I'm more into battle than into ctf now btw :|

[TripleJ]

mm, battle :-D

I think I'm more into battle than into ctf now btw :|

Same

[Speeza]

Battle is cool ;D. but ctf = best.

[Eigus]

In gameplay probably yes, but I am way more into playing the oldies 'n' goodies for various teamgames and such. I don't mind seeing new CTFs in some public servers (hell, I love it), but still, I am way more into battle now. (especially in leveldesign, though I am heavily deinspirated right now and it would be arduous to make a level for me :|)

...did I just write some kind of nonsense or it is just me?

[EvilMike]

"deinspirated"

[Valco]

I am defascinated by Eigus' root word misuse.

[PurpleJazz]

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5548/jazz0009uj7.png

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3794/jazz0010xm5.png

[FireSworD]

The lava doesn't fit, it needs more depth and/or detail and a slight color change. I love how the sewers look. The palette makes the city part look ugly though.

[EvilMike]

I like the overall look of those screenshots. You're right that the lava looks wrong though. It's way too bright or something, also why is there a giant waterfall of lava in the middle of a city in the first place?

[PurpleJazz]

I originally added the blood falls to try and give the level a more "devastated" feel, although I agree with you about the fact that they do look a little strange with this tileset. These ones are only temporary until I make some new ones from scratch, and/or edit the palette. I'll also probably use them in the sewers only.

About the city palette, I intentionally made the palette look dull as it supports the atomsphere. I might change this though.

EDIT: Better?

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3394/jazz0010wr0.png

[Eigus]

You know what PJ, this palette looks like something I wanted for a level once. <strike>...cooba...</strike>

The blood falls look weird here :( I like the palette, though. Supports the atmosphere.

[EvilMike]

If you want a sort of waterfall that fits in a bit better, I suggest dirty water. Some sort of brown, or muddy blue colour would work. Lava/blood is more dramatic and all, but it really does not fit the theme. You kind of need everything to be on fire for that to work.

[cooba]

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/5548/jazz0009uj7.pngThe fence behind the gate looks too artificial. The palette changes are good though more contrast is needed (Nick Stadler never used simple generated gradients himself). I like how the sprites turned out.

[Nonomu198]

Or you can replace the black shading in the waterfall with yellowish grey, making it look like, well, pee and slime.

Oh, also, I liked the red clothes, the new palette change makes the fencer looks rotten.

[Grytolle]

pretty dead, yet i see 5 livng creatures wtf!

[Nonomu198]

Maybe they are zombies!

[PurpleJazz]

I've now edited the falls so that they match the colour of the water pools in the sewers. Don't feel like posting yet another screenshot at the moment.

[Raven aka StL]

Good job, PJ.
I can beta that when the time comes, if you like.

[n00b]

Am I the only one who thinks that the waterfall tiles PJ is using look ugly as sin? I mean aside from a few of the problems already mentioned (I.E. Magical floating waterfall, waterfall's colors seem off, fence looks out of place) the - scratch that sentence I was writing. The only thing preventing me from enjoying the screenshots are the waterfalls.
Aside from that (and the fence thing), good job PJ.

[PurpleJazz]

Am I the only one who thinks that the waterfall tiles PJ is using look ugly as sin? I mean aside from a few of the problems already mentioned (I.E. Magical floating waterfall, waterfall's colors seem off, fence looks out of place) the - scratch that sentence I was writing. The only thing preventing me from enjoying the screenshots are the waterfalls.
Aside from that (and the fence thing), good job PJ.

I know, these are a little bit out of place; I was pretty tired at the time of making this, and a little rushed, so I didn't really put in enough logical thinking I admit. However, quite a few major changes have been made since then and these problems are no longer present. I'm now using different waterfalls, ones which don't look as ugly.

[Violet CLM]

The reason those waterfalls, or the ones that were popular a while back with other tileset conversions, or basically any waterfall in any tile ever, do look "ugly as sin" is because they have nothing to do with the perspective of the tileset they're in. JJ2 uses a much more complex graphic style than JJ1 and that lesson is not being learned in this one crucial field. Compare the water pools from Jungle and, in fact, Colonius - they're not flat and full-tile. In JJ1 they would be, but this isn't JJ1. I've used this example before, but <a href="http://www.bghq.com./bgs.php?system=psx&game=m/mmx4&mode=web">here</a>'s what waterfalls (and heck, water in general) should look like in an isometric game like JJ2.

[n00b]

I wasn't even thinking of perspective. I was more concerned with the fact that its an extremely horrendous gradient that doesn't match the style (which kind of includes perspective too, I guess) of the rest of the set.

[Nonomu198]

Well, what are you waiting for people, go make some Megaman X4 conversions!

[Eigus]

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6015/monkcarrotto5.png

[DoubleGJ]

@Eigus: looks interesting, the mutated skull is a nice concept but I suppose the bricks below it don't look too good

[Eigus]

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5969/hocuscreen2zw8.png

[Eigus]

Probably looks wrong because of the fog :(

[Stijn]

I like the "foggy" effect.

Can't say much about the rest, though the morphed skulls underwater don't look very pretty.

[Raven aka StL]

It's in fact more logical for distant background objects to be light than dark, because of fog/distance fog.
Then again, if it's real damn far away, it could just as well be dark, but on the other hand it's a nice and much underused style to make it light.

Alas, that's about the only thing worth a compliment about those pics.

[Valco]

If those mutated skulls were used as torches elsewhere, that would be cool. Unfortunately the tileset won't support that, and to me it just looks wierd how it is now. Besides that, I don't see any other real problems in the screenshot.

[arjandevries]

Hmz, I really hate that hocus pocus tileset. It makes jazz 2 looks kinda retro

[Eigus]

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8791/hocuscreen3biz2.png

[Ragnarok!]

o_o Cool! I hope you didnt do that rocket fast thing :( Also, this is reminding me of Zelda, the first water image especially. They look great, keep up the good work. I hope there are puzzles (that aren't annoying) and use mere logic or a bit of brains, or better yet, some fun gameplay gimmicks :)

[Eigus]

Thanks Rag :D

Unfortunately my brain is kinda off so you'll probably have to give me some ideas :|

In these levels there'll be many paths except for the main ones, some will be hidden, but all must be explored to finish the levels :) Maybe I'll even include backtracking to previous levels if you forget to take anything or stuff like that.

[Ragnarok!]

I've always wanted to see a "backtrack" bonus level... Maybe one hidden somewhere very greatly in the level, and you'll have TNTs which will let you do certain things or you're a bird this time so you can go higher or something. Maybe even it's been destroyed or taken over.. iono, be creative.

[Valco]

my brain is kinda off

I just had to quote that.

Regarding the level, it's nice to see you used a normal skull for once, and if you want puzzle ideas, start with boulders, or switches that make the water go higher lower to break chests. TDII uses this trick for one of it's levels.

[Eigus]

it's nice to see you used a normal skull for once

;pppp

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5484/hocuscreenwauax8.png

Sorry, I couldn't resist :( This is the main bad guy of the pack. No, he isn't the monk that gave you the magical flying carrot. This is the Summoner. wellnameimpliesstuffplzthxbye. He was once a monk from the castle where there's the water dungeon and other stuff, but he was banished from there because he studied black magic. He wants to destroy everything that is related to the white mages' castle. So if your rabbit has been sent by the white mages to destroy Summoner, then he wants to destroy your rabbit.

UGH I SUCK AT DESCRIPTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THIS :mad:

So, uh, he is the main bad guy and wants to destroy the white mages and because of that you must destroy him.

<strike>or something like that</strike>

Also this is the corridor that connects the white mages' castle with the Summoner's castle.

[Ragnarok!]

Sounds like you're trying to promote racial inequality. [/Cool Drum Noise Goes here]

Moving on swiftly, I wanna make an SP pack now... But I also wanna focus on my ANs. Wish I had more time. :\

[Eigus]

Sounds like you're trying to promote racial inequality. [/Cool Drum Noise Goes here]

haha, I just noticed that. didn't really think of that when i posted it ;P

[EvilMike]

one more screenshot of that level and we'll have enough to be able to reconstruct the whole thing with 100% accuracy

[Slaz]

The level itself wouldn't be that bad according to my look on your screens. :p

Still, I dislike the Hocus tileset unless I see it in the original game or the JJ2 remake pack..

[Valco]

;pppp

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5484/hocuscreenwauax8.png

Sorry, I couldn't resist :( This is the main bad guy of the pack. No, he isn't the monk that gave you the magical flying carrot. This is the Summoner. wellnameimpliesstuffplzthxbye. He was once a monk from the castle where there's the water dungeon and other stuff, but he was banished from there because he studied black magic. He wants to destroy everything that is related to the white mages' castle. So if your rabbit has been sent by the white mages to destroy Summoner, then he wants to destroy your rabbit.


<STRIKE>What a dumb villain, he's not even purple.</STRIKE>

What if the guy who gave you the carrot WAS the summoner! Wouldn't that be an interesting plot twist? Telling you how to kill himself, only to achieve his goal of killing you! Pretty ephil if I say so myself.

[Grytolle]

You saying so yourself doesn't make it "ephil"... At best it'd make it "stjuupid".

[Raven aka StL]

Also, this is reminding me of Zelda
..."Zelda" is a bit too much said, really.

And Stijn might want to mature a bit...

[Ragnarok!]

Maybe so. :(

And bwahaha, I just figured out how these crabs would be stronger. Bwahaha.

[Eigus]

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7074/xlmolympqb1.png

me and my packs...

anyway if you are reading this pj, i still need wsfdc >;p

[Raven aka StL]

That looks unplayable.

[NovaStar]

That looks BLUE*

[Mmadguy]

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5192/skreenbv8.png
current name: Avetur
current levels made: only lv 2, not lv 1 :P

the seeker is a SCE! :-)

[EvilMike]

current name: Avetur
current levels made: only lv 2, not lv 1 :P

the seeker is a SCE! :-)

It needs a proper background.

[Valco]

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5192/skreenbv8.png
current name: Avetur
current levels made: only lv 2, not lv 1 :P

the seeker is a SCE! :-)

Welcome to the community Mmadguy, good luck on your level, and good job figuring out SCEs :D
The level looks like some kind of booby-trapped temple, maybe you could add some more eyecandy to make it look better, but it looks cool as it is. This is sort of like what Evilmike said about proper background, it's a bit bland.

[FawFul]

time to bring some sphere in this thread... since it looks pretty dead.. this is a level that is going to be released soon. i hope you like it. i get the weirdest comments ;P. (much difference)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2355/scimmy1pg5.th.png (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scimmy1pg5.png)
u will fall in a warp left side off the base. <strike>HAIL CHIPPIE</strike>

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6122/scimmy2ia2.th.png (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scimmy2ia2.png)

Hope you like it ;D

[snzspeed]

time to bring some sphere in this thread... since it looks pretty dead.. this is a level that is going to be released soon. i hope you like it. i get the weirdest comments ;P. (much difference)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2355/scimmy1pg5.th.png (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scimmy1pg5.png)
u will fall in a warp left side off the base. <strike>HAIL CHIPPIE</strike>

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6122/scimmy2ia2.th.png (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scimmy2ia2.png)

Hope you like it ;D

This looks nice, gj

[Raven aka StL]

Not bad, you're progressing.

[FawFul]

hehe, thanks ^^

[Jimbob]

Now it's time for an update for my level:
<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/jimbobbsunited2.png?t=1213909667">
Battleships united... remember? Still uses resp-z.xm for music.

[xraven13]

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6015/monkcarrotto5.png

what is name of that set ?? i need name so that i download it on jazz2online site...i hope its finished :)
btw all packs i downloaded till now are meh,most of them use same levels like in game + i dont see any difference actually with real game..:/

[Raven aka StL]

That is one of the worst tilesets you can find anywhere.

[FireSworD]

Ah, Hocus is probably one of, if not the most used set. With the most remakes/variations. Even a popular SP pack was made with them. The countless other uses...

Yet it's one of the worst tilesets you can find anywhere.

[xraven13]

so what are best sets?? i played secret files and it seems like there is nothing new inside :S

[IJskonIJn]

I'm still busy with a 15 level levelpack called 'The Antidote'. I have been busy with it for years, cause 90% of the time I'm doing other games/things. All the levels are sort of done, but i'm now i am 'updating' them because they suck or the eyecandy is horrible. Almost every level is in a original JJ2 tileset, except for 2, the intro is in 'simple' and a level is in swamp from Agama.

A screeny from the swamp level:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/WAKE29/ff-7.jpg

Maybe later some more screenies, if you ask for it.

[Ragnarok!]

That actually looks VERY good to me. I like it a lot and I've forgotten the possibilities with that set. Bravo!

[Violet CLM]

so what are best sets?? i played secret files and it seems like there is nothing new inside :S

One possibility: go to the site that goes with this forum, and search for Tileset uploads sorted by Average Rating.


I kinda sorta apologize for Hocus, but it's not really my fault people use blocky tilesets more than non-blocky tilesets... :(

[IJskonIJn]

Thanks, but i have no idea when i will upload it, i may be this summer, it may be next year :P

[xraven13]

best set that i have played is peach beach...is there any other pack with quallity like peach beach??

[Puffie40]

best set that i have played is peach beach...is there any other pack with quallity like peach beach??

You mean SP level packs? Here are some I reccomend: "The Resurrection of Deven Shell" "Tomb Rabbit" and "The Cloning Machine"(This one is TSF)

[EvilMike]

best set that i have played is peach beach...is there any other pack with quallity like peach beach??
The best thing to do is go to this page http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/downloads/ and at the top tell it to filter single player levels, and sort by rating. There's a whole ton of quality stuff.

I also run a blog where I do occasional updates featuring single player levels. A lot of great levels are not featured on it though, so I recommend searching on J2O if you want the widest selection.

[Hitch]

Finally started working on Memories 2: Radiant Garden agian. Still have to add events, some more eyecandy, and some background details. This is the 3rd level in my pack if your interested. I'm using blades new set, Fortress of Forgotton Souls. I'm currently 75% done with this piece, takeing it slowly, since I don't have the inspiration to take it in big chunks. Anyway, here's a layout of what I've got so far.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4821/xlmm2rg03zp1.png

[Troglobite]

I'm almost done my first single player pack.
I'd post sceen shots but I'm not sure how to upload the pictures. Is there some way to show the screenshots without posting them online first?

[n00b]

Um... no?
You can just sign up for an account at a place like maj.com or something though. Its free.

[Puffie40]

To take screens, I hit Alt+Printscrn, load it up in paint, crop the window out, save it as a .JPG file, then upload it to maj.com (Or any other photo site, really...)

the the URL of the photo, and add it with some [IMG] tags, and Volia!

[Raven aka StL]

That looks fairly good Hitch, nice work. But I wonder does that play well, looking at the layout.

[Eigus]

save it as a .JPG file

DIE :mad: jpgs suck :(

[Hitch]

Not if you want a smaller file.

[cooba]

Not if you want a smaller file.PNG<!--a--> ;)

[Nonomu198]

PNG<!--a--> ;)

JPEG

[Raven aka StL]

PNG, always.

[n00b]

If its something pixelated, JPG is always a nono.

[Troglobite]

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/troglobite/JazzDarkForest/jazzpic.jpeg
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/troglobite/JazzDarkForest/jazzpic2.jpeg
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/troglobite/JazzDarkForest/jazzpic3.jpeg
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/troglobite/JazzDarkForest/jazzpic4.jpeg
They're Jpegs by the way.

[Puffie40]

DIE :mad: jpgs suck :(

Since I am on dialup, I don't really care. :p

[n00b]

The first and last screenshot have me interested, Troglobite.

[Nonomu198]

The first and last screenshot have me interested, Troglobite.

They look like tests. Do you like tests?

[IJskonIJn]

PNG, always.

Nah, with jazz you can use .GIF too

[n00b]

They look like tests. Do you like tests?
They're not tests. To be a test, it'd have to use clashing, ugly, out of place looking warptiles and every single test would have to be "Make it past the warptiles!" or some variant of that sort despite the fact, nowhere else in JJ2's myraid of gametypes do you ever do these sorts of things, except maybe the RF jumping, thus making it worst application of the word "test" ever.

[Raven aka StL]

Nah, with jazz you can use .GIF too

GIF can mess up certain color schemes.

[Speeza]

They're not tests. To be a test, it'd have to use clashing, ugly, out of place looking warptiles and every single test would have to be "Make it past the warptiles!" or some variant of that sort despite the fact, nowhere else in JJ2's myraid of gametypes do you ever do these sorts of things, except maybe the RF jumping, thus making it worst application of the word "test" ever.

*Removes his test screenshot*

I'm makeing a test pack and not everyone hates them ,but I do agree that tests get boreing with warptiles , but its not really about eyecandy or anything.
I make tests becuase I can't make anything else.

[n00b]

Its not about eyecandy, but something that fits in with the tileset would suffice.

[Troglobite]

I have now uploaded my levels. Please download and enjoy.

[SPAZ18]

Here is layout of new Flag Run (FR) level I'm building:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5831/vcmapuj8.th.png (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcmapuj8.png)

[Raven aka StL]

That looks fairly interesting (and unplayable, but you can never know...)
Anyway, nice idea attempting to make a vertical FR.

[Speeza]

So why not you know uhh go to a part of the level , and then maybe well find some good ec or something a take a picture. 8D

[SPAZ18]

OK, here are 6 screenies of my new FR level called Vertically Challenged:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/674/vcscreen01fo9.th.png (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcscreen01fo9.png) http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/795/vcscreen02em1.th.png (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcscreen02em1.png)
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8565/vcscreen03nj3.th.png (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcscreen03nj3.png) http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4141/vcscreen04hr1.th.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcscreen04hr1.png)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3639/vcscreen05uu6.th.png (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcscreen05uu6.png) http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5992/vcscreen06px5.th.png (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vcscreen06px5.png)

++Imageshack's multiploader

[FireSworD]

Take out those text strings, unless you really need them.

[Jimbob]

I don't know why I'm making Christmas levels early...
<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/Jimbobunholynight1.png?t=1216473427">
Anyways, this is expected to be the second level in a small pack of three CTF levels. I haven't started on the third one yet, but I have finished the first one already and I think this level is turning out very well so far.
Quite an original style of eyecandy, I think.

[Ðx]

I like the snoweyecandy, but it's a little empty on the forground. But the rest is nice :)

[Speeza]

I don't know why I'm making Christmas levels early...
<img src="http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc140/jimbobjj2/Jimbobunholynight1.png?t=1216473427">
Anyways, this is expected to be the second level in a small pack of three CTF levels. I haven't started on the third one yet, but I have finished the first one already and I think this level is turning out very well so far.
Quite an original style of eyecandy, I think.

Hey buddy save it for xmas :roll:

[IJskonIJn]

@ Jimbob

Looks nice, i always like christmaslevels.

[Hitch]

Christmas in July...

[TripleJ]

Christmas in July...

Awesome!!

[DarkSonic]

Well, if you're using a Christmas tileset that doesn't have to mean that it's made for it. But it's still kinda strange.. anyway, I'd like to make some more levels but I can't find a tileset. So make more tilesets!!1 (yes, that was a joke)

[CrimiClown]

Well, if you're using a Christmas tileset that doesn't have to mean that it's made for it. But it's still kinda strange.. anyway, I'd like to make some more levels but I can't find a tileset. So make more tilesets!!1 (yes, that was a joke)

I got a nice one for you for when I'm back from the island. ;)

[Ðx]

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5645/whatvv1.png

[Ragnarok!]

Shouldn't all that rain make the fire go out? =[

[Sacrush]

Shouldn't all that rain make the fire go out? =[

Good point. :lol:

[Ðx]

Good point. :lol:


welcome in fantasyland

[Nonomu198]

Shouldn't all that rain make the fire go out? =[

Not really, especially if there are lightnings.

[Ragnarok!]

Also, if you're in that level for a considerable amount of time, shouldn't THAT much rain add up to a really high amount and cause Jazz to drown from some.. typhoon flood? We wouldn't want that would we... We only have him and Spaz. Not Lori because we be living in a male dominated society. *Man voice* Yah. Patriarchal. Anyway, there's not even a carrot to keep Jazz happy that he's gonna drown very soon... Poor Jazz... What if the fire gets him first? :(

[Hitch]

Jazz comes equipped with scuba gear, and unlimited air supply.

[Raven aka StL]

Too much rain.

[Dermo]

Too little rain.

[Nonomu198]

Too little rain.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8489/lulusedmoarreinsohirns5.png

[Speeza]

make the rain red :) Page claim lol

Also nice levels everyone :D

[plunK]

I'm working on a large - size battle map good for 10-25 players. It is called Exodus Peak. It is a mountain top that has been industrialized with skyscrapers, etc. I have hosted it a couple of times on Bob's Server. It needs a substantial amount of work but due to peoples requests for the map i might release a pre-release version.

[Ðx]

hahahah @iconguy's post


I will leave the rain out :P

[Ragnarok!]

hahaha, I was staring at Iconguy's post for like 3 minutes then I finally got it. xD.

[Ðx]

hahaha, I was staring at Iconguy's post for like 3 minutes then I finally got it. xD.

hahahahahahah xD

i will post a new screen later this day

[Raven aka StL]

It is called Exodus Peak.

Bah, that makes 3 levels with 'Exodus' in the name. :/

[Speeza]

So it doesn't matter =/

[SPAZ18]

I have now decided to call my level "Action Station."
Here is another screen:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3020/vcscreen07xj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ARGH! Why did I upload it as JPG?!

[Raven aka StL]

You shouldn't use foreground tiles in the background. Otherwise not bad.
Well, some slight tile-bugs, but that's nothing.

[Hitch]

So I just recently finished, or at least 99% done, Castle of Mysteries. It uses Blades newest set, Fortress of Forgotton Souls. Quite a hard one to learn. And pretty tough to build Eyecandy in the brick tiles. Anyway, here's a few shots of the recent level.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7469/xlmm2rg03pict1jv3.png

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8494/xlmm2rg03pict2ka8.png

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7369/xlmm2rg03pict4zg6.png

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3292/xlmm2rg03pict3sj7.png

The last picture has a nice impression of spaz acting like a retard. Anyway, as for the rest of the pack, I'm not sure if I'll be continuing this pack, meaning, it will only contain thr 4 levels it has now. But I'll be starting in a new genre of level making, not CTF or Battle anymore, but Flag run and Assault and a few others for JDC events and things like that. But if I do change my mind, you might see one more level in this pack, if not, exspect a release in late August.

~Hitch

[Sacrush]

The spikes in the walls just looks ugly to me. Still looks decent though.

[Ðx]

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/573/screen1to4.png

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9202/screen2os3.png

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1826/screen3wn9.png

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4011/screen4io6.png


Need to finetune everything etc.. Nothing is finished yet.

Tileset = IC - Carrottus.

[cooba]

Hitch: why are you using the background bricks on layer 3? Otherwise it looks good even if the walls need work.

Dx: interesting take on Carrotus there.

[Hitch]

Hitch: why are you using the background bricks on layer 3?

It's hard to create eyecandy in the bricks, I thought the black made a nice touch to it, though it's just me.

[Raven aka StL]

You're getting there, hitch.

Interesting style with carrotus, dx.

[Ðx]

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/6051/hoiafg2.png


Unfinished etc.. But I want to know, do you like it? The style? (see screens above this post too)

[Stijn]

I really do.

[Nonomu198]

I don't, hills should be built with filled tiles (FILLED I TELL YOU!!). And these rooms remind me of crappy hotel rooms that are linked with warps.

[snzspeed]

I don't, hills should be built with filled tiles (FILLED I TELL YOU!!). And these rooms remind me of crappy hotel rooms that are linked with warps.

youre just jealous..

[IJskonIJn]

Hmm, i think you can get the same style in jungle

[Raven aka StL]

youre just jealous..

Or, you're just iconguy who has to make a scene about everything...

[Speeza]

Or, you're just iconguy who has to make a scene about everything...

Reminds me of you ;).

Dx I can't wait to see this come out it looks great.

[Ragnarok!]

I'm pretty impressed by the Carrotus pictures Dx, but what Iconguy said made me think about something... The logs look like they've intentionally been placed by someone but yet there is a load of moss or leaves and vines all over the place- Looks unreal to me. Not like it matters, it still looks good. One thing I dislike however is that the logs bend (which I dont think I've ever seen in real life, baring in mind that this is a game still) and that they aren't very well separated from eachother, at least you thought about supporting them with vertical logs. ;P On a sidenote, it does look as if there are little rooms, except that's not a bad thing.

(I feel like I just rambled on pointlessly, it looks good. ;o)

[n00b]

My only problem with it is the minimalistic background and middleground tiles clashes on occasion with the cluttered and messy-feeling foreground tiles. Its most apparent to me as feeling 'off' in these (http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/573/screen1to4.png) two (http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4011/screen4io6.png) screens.

The one where Jazz is on a vine hook and the vines fill up the areas between the other hooks looks extremely great and is an exception to what I mentioned.

Reminds me of you ;).
There has never been a post on this forum more worthy of a high-five than this one.

[cooba]

Rag: At a guess, the wooden structure was build <em>before</em> the moss grew all around.

[Nonomu198]

Wait, since when are levels realistic?